Those poor girls. Poor Ioan.
Reading it again makes you remember how nasty she is.
And yet there will still be people defending her
Reading it again makes you remember how nasty she is.
And yet there will still be people defending her
Your post made me feel so sad - it's just heartbreaking to imagine how he is feelingWhen Ioan calls Elsie Sprouts . None of this is really new information but it’s just as heartbreaking every time you read it. I also found the moment where he phoned Gloria in the car and the girls wouldn’t speak to him, so he just told them they were brave and he was proud and loved them, absolutely devastating.
I just wish for once someone close to Alice would be honest with her and really sit down and bring it home just what her actions are costing those two children.I hope with all my heart that those girls find their way back to Ioan. With any luck his tremendous love for them will help to heal them from growing up in the shadow of that disgusting, evil monster who calls herself their mother.
Can Alice help the way she is I wonder? Either way, I know she must never ever hold any influence over anyone, particularly her own children, ever again.
I think those who think we’re obsessed with Alice’s wardrobe are failing to recognize that it provides some of the few moments of levity in this otherwise dark saga. Who wouldn’t be amused by levitating boots?
I just read this, this is the temporary change to allow them to stay overnight, but I'm less I'm being thick (quite possible!) I thought it would have included the messages from mAlice offering the overnight stay as well, via the the wizzard app? Again I might have might have missed this in the documents. Either way she signed and initialled that amendment and Marie signed it the on the 24th, with Ioan and Anne signing it the following day.Exhibit C / page 52.
This is what was so clear on Alice's instagram both with Ioan and the girls. She'd write these posts that would sometimes even look like she was gushing about him, but then have all these little digs in the hashtags. A lot of people thought those hashtags were cute or jokey, presumably because they hadn't been on the receiving end of those kind of digs, let alone constantly. It's subtle enough that a lot of people won't notice it or will pass it off as a joke, but it hurts and really does damage your self worth, and those who do it know exactly what they are doing.This is my experience with the narc in my family to a T. I ALWAYS have to bite my tongue to her small slights otherwise i look petty and pathetic. However, what other’s don’t realise ( except my husband to be fair) those small digs add up and they become more and more obvious to those on the receiving end. It’s exhausting and upsetting.
She’s both passive aggressive and outright aggressive.This is what was so clear on Alice's instagram both with Ioan and the girls. She'd write these posts that would sometimes even look like she was gushing about him, but then have all these little digs in the hashtags. A lot of people thought those hashtags were cute or jokey, presumably because they hadn't been on the receiving end of those kind of digs, let alone constantly. It's subtle enough that a lot of people won't notice it or will pass it off as a joke, but it hurts and really does damage your self worth, and those who do it know exactly what they are doing.
This is what gets me - she planned it for the day of Elsie's graduation, purposely didn't pack her leotard which forces a situation like this, and uses it to blame Ioan.very hopefull sign that little Elsie likes the therapy sessions at least
and the fact that Alice choosed her graduation to duck with it explains the coldness from the start
They were all up for it and it was arranged then abruptly overnight said they didn't want to go - can't think why ?I’m confused/ surprised that according to the doc the overnight WAS the first time the girls had met B. I thought they’d met before (gone to Berry Farm) It DOES seem odd (imo) that the first time they’d meet would be an overnight.
BIB you're not wrong!When you see the court papers it brings you up short. The stress that Ioan has been under for years is too immense to contemplate. He deserves a medal and a beautiful rest of life when this is finally resolved. I am so glad he now has a supportive and loving partner, he deserves one. I also feel so sorry for his parents and B’s parents too. They must also giving this distressing situation a lot of headspace.
Atomic Alice has a lot to answer for. A nuclear deterrent now needs to be deployed.
I'm saddened to see this in black and white but not surprised. We know she's happy to throw those girls under the bus time and again for her own agenda. Sooner or later Ella and Elsie will realise that too. She doesn't bother to protect them or put them and their needs first now, she will NEVER put them first when it conflicts with her own wants.So Ioan’s response to the RO request finally hit the docket. I have hesitated uploading some of these but as this contains the stipulation to the intended overnight, I think it’s important that it’s public. Especially as Alice‘s narrative was that it was sprung on the girls and was “court ordered.” Nope. Girls, your mom set you up. She agreed to this. In writing. Witnessed by two lawyers. The only surprise was on you, unfortunately. As far as mothers go, you deserve so much better.
It is possible that the non stop stress of Malice’s constant abuse has triggered the onset of a mental health issue for Ella. Malice wouldn’t realize it as she thinks she can use it to prove that Ella hates her father. She doesn’t care about the children. They’re her meal tickets and means to revenge Ioan.I feel like there's a lot of emphasis on Ella seeing a psychiatrist and not a referral to another psychotherapist in that email.
It's an escalation of treatment for behavior. If she's eloping from a residence, carrying baby blankets, and actively lying on the restraining order (narc, gaslighting) then there's maybe a lot more going on.
Especially with the email through the family wizard about custody time.