Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #111 Hey Alice, get a job and go fund yourself!

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Very good. So roar away and destroy every good relationship she and her daughters (more importantly) ever had? That’s not clever, sorry it isn’t. Even if Ioan was in the wrong, it would still be so much cooler to walk away and leave him to it. Why beg for someone who doesn’t want you? What has Alice’s scorched Earth approach achieved exactly, besides destruction? She’s not vindicating herself, she’s doing the opposite.

Also read some documents/watch some videos from Alice and you will see a bigger picture emerge from her victim one (which constantly changes).
 
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I love this, Claudia you rock girl
 
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Would mAlice have been thought a coward if:
  • she had roared then,
  • picked herself up off the floor,
  • dusted herself off,
  • got the best separation agreement financially for her and the kids,
  • got 50-50 custody so she had some time to herself as well as the kids having contact with their father,
  • got herself out there dating and bagged herself a nice guy - possibly someone richer and very loving?

No, she would have been applauded and called an absolute warrior.

In fact, people may even have looked down on her ex for leaving such a strong, powerful and graceful woman.

And her kids wouldn't have been damaged by her outrageous, clearly abusive behaviour.

Making up stories and lying, viciously abusing and targeting his extended family and emotionally abusing the children by alienating them from their father is not being strong and powerful or to be applauded.
It's wicked.

And that's my last response to you.
 
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Men don’t want us silent, they want to move on with their lives when they are unhappy.
Men get one life just like women and shouldn’t stay where they are taken for granted, not given privacy and have a wife with a big mouth!
Towards the end there he must have been pretty scared of how she would react because he fled with the clothes on his back, he took nothing!
So you can support Alice all you want, why not make a pro Alice forum on here then all the bitter, thick cnuts of the world can join.
Here we know the truth, we read the court documents, they made some people throw up for gods sake!
THAT is who you’re supporting.
So donate to her money grab GFM and shut the fuck up, you doormat.
 
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There is something to be said for people who shout the loudest, yes they are heard.

being heard alone doesn’t equal being respected, trusted. You are just making noise. People stop listening to your words. You just become a loud person

what you say is more important than how you say it
Basics taught to any child by parents or school

Imagine Shakespeare wrote some of his best work all in CAPS and the actors had to ROAR it all, would you watch it and understand it? It would be unbearable
 
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IMHO persistent lying, trolling with sock accounts and not showing up in court is 'for the coward' (and it's possible to speak out and stand up for yourself without appearing deranged and abusive) but I guess life would be boring if we all agreed
 
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She's done nothing to help women in similar situations infact like blooming AH she's made it worse, the good thing is maybe more men who leave abusive partners will be taken seriously now.
No one screwed Alice over, Alice screwed Alice!
 
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I just want to say I noticed that and thought it too. I don't have kids and I loved my husband and my grief at his passing was debilitating.
But he was not 'the centre of my orbit', we orbited together in a much bigger world. His friends still look out for me, my friends became his friends and they still grieve his loss.
You are setting yourself up for a disaster if you have "a man at the centre of your orbit" and that's an incredibly immature and/or olde worlde attitude.
 
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BIB That's one thing you are right about lol. We have seen the floor pics. How long do you think AE should spend on the floor. 2 years? 20 years? Forever? What kind of role model is that for the kids?

 
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Women are having the rights to their bodies slowly taken away from them by men in power who truly do want us to be silent and obedient. These same men are looking away as children are murdered in their classrooms because they care more about controlling women under the guise of 'saving the babies' than they do protecting living breathing human children. There are very rich men out there who pay huge sums of money to do very terrible, unspeakable things and get away with it. Women suffering. Children suffering.

Alice was simply asked for a divorce. Get some fucking perspective.
 
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@Blurp thinking of you this afternoon. Hope all goes well. It is a very stressful thing to navigate x
 
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I think your talking from experience and somehow identify with Alice.
Alice hasn't exactly roared imo she's been insidious and acted with malicious intent. Its now coming back to bite her in a big way.
 
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I love both your posts Plinky and Susan. it smacks of such good sense and balance while navigating the grievous loss of your husband Susan and I agree that it’s a very old fashioned attitude to have a man at the centre of your orbit. Alice’s attitude to the world and her perceived place in it mirror this. It’s much healthier as you say to orbit the world together as two separate beings joined by love and friendship
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I love the little picture in my head of 2 little moons holding rock hands orbiting around the solar system together
 
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She isn't heartbroken, she's positively seething, and would rather simmer in her own bitter juices than make sure her children are ok first and foremost.
 
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