Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #110 I don't eat baby sheet stirrers

[cherryjuice]

That is so terrible to hear @cherryjuice , your beloved baby girl needs medication that insurance won't cover and that must put such a strain on any family finances. Not to even begin to imagine how awful it must be to have such a poorly child.

Then that bitch is getting cash from strangers to fund her shopping habit.

That really is heart breaking. Wishing you and your family all my very best wishes (and a bloody big lottery win to at least ease financial stress). I realise nothing will help with the worry about your darling child.

Oh, thank you so much! We’re starting to make some headway with insurance just because I call them every day and am very, very nice, cheerful, and friendly to everyone on the phone, which has resulted in a small army of people from our doctor’s office, pharmacy, and various arms of the insurance company making calls around for us. And I was putting in 11-hour days at work before I gave birth, so my supervisor is working to get me a big raise. I think of all this as being the anti-Alice. Kill ‘em with kindness and work hard!

 

[Tabitha D]

This occurred to me on the last thread, when there was a post that said she couldn’t agree anything because he wouldn’t see her to sign anything.
She is DESPERATE to contact him directly - to see
him in person, ALONE, in the flesh, face to face - and she has been from the start.
Why, we can only guess. But I find it disturbing. Especially when he fled the house with only the clothes on his back and even had to arrange a police escort several months later when he went to collect his things (in Alice's pre-arranged absence). He fears her and what she might do if they met, particularly alone. I wouldn’t put it past her to hurt herself and say he did it. I think he fears this too.
Obviously, things like selling the house, signing
agreements etc. can be arranged through his lawyer.
As she well knows.

 

[Mad Betty]

Good morning from LA.

Alice's shopping habit has come to light and one hopes the good folks donating money to the poor mom who refuses to work is held accountable for the GoFundMe shake down. I hate seeing people taken advantage of when so many good people are actually struggling and likely don't have bank accounts they choose not to touch. That's my opinion.

Also, that's definitely her eBay account and that top is most definitely the one she purchased. There is no amount of spin that will cover the fact she's shopping for herself right now, despite the broke girl narrative she's pitching.

I do wonder if financial abuse (coupled with the DA) was a factor in the demise of the marriage. She mentioned Ioan questioning her about what she was buying, and now it sheds a little light on why he'd be concerned. Just my thoughts.

I hope everyone is well.

 

[welp]

iirc on twitter during their marriage Alice kept making fun of him getting grey hair (and then he colored it)

 

[Ice Cream Enthusiast]

Thread title Suggestion:

Hey Alice, get a job and go fund yourself!

 

[Invictus]

Trauma is trauma is trauma.

There is no trauma competition.

It doesn’t matter if your trauma is combat in war. It doesn’t matter if your trauma was physical abuse. Or emotional abuse. Or abuse by a partner or parent. Doesn’t matter if it was a car accident, a bomb in Baghdad, an internment camp, years of being put down, a natural disaster, being bullied....

Trauma is trauma. Full stop.

The psychology, the circumstances might be different, but what it does to the brain, is the exact same in every.single.circumstance.

The brain, particularly the lower portion of the brain (lizard brain as some call it), is highly sensitive to trauma. So when a person experiences trauma that lower part of the brain, which is highly connected to the nervous system responds. So you get a nervous system which is hyper reactive, highly attuned, and gets used to running the show. Physically this is going to manifest in elevated heart rate, increased blood pressure, short and shallow breathing…..like a zebra running away from a lion. In humans it will also make us more prone to quick thoughts which may not always be accurate.

That lower part of the brain which is so sensitive to trauma is not always connected to higher order upper brain thinking. So lower brain is not going to sit there and debate the finer points of should I be this way, do I have a right to this, is this trauma an actual trauma in comparison to the 15 people I’m thinking of? All it’s going to do is react to protect your ass.

Again. Trauma is trauma is trauma.

It profoundly impacts the brain and the way the brain functions.

The psychology, circumstances, and resources of a person determine the impact of trauma. If you have trauma and you have no resources, no help, no support, the odds are against you. If you have trauma and resources, and support, guess what? You do pretty well. If you have trauma, resources, and you don’t lean in, don’t recognize it, don’t work it, you get what we’re looking at.

BPD, NPD, abusive personalities very rarely arise from nothing, although it’s possible. Having a trauma background does not excuse or condone behavior, it gives a framework for understanding. I can have empathy for what likely happened in Alice’s childhood. I get how it fucked up her brain and her behavior. But, she’s an adult now. Part of that is looking at ourselves, our past, and our aspirations. She’s not doing that in any open, deliberate, or conscious way. She's ruled by impulsive, instinctual choices devoid of examination.

I will say this until the day I die: Trauma is Trauma is Trauma. There are no trauma Olympics. No one wins. No one places 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. All trauma impacts the brain the same way. Your trauma is just as important, just as worthy of love and empathy, just as worthy of examination.

 

[M33L4]

Oh look at her latest purchase. Perfect for her going to prison…

 

[TheNotoriousManzana]

I fell back into the black hole that is the TRO documents and I’m practically nauseous riding the roller coaster of emotions being depicted here. She needs help, like this is insane.

Spoiler: Abusive Impulsivity

“You’ve never loved anybody but yourself.”
“My life is constant sadness.”
“I’m dating a wealthy Disney executive who can get me where I need to be.”
“I love My Family Wizard!!!”
“The password to My Family Wizard doesn’t work.”
“Why are you so angry???”
“Your happiness is important and I’ll help you achieve that.”
“You won’t EVER be considered for an award from the Queen.”
“OMG Damian lost his wife!!!”
“How can you love your selfish mother more than the kids???”
“Brentwood is AMAZING!!!”
“Do you realize who you’re up against, dude???”
“Basically you’ve failed everybody.”
“Have you watched Halston on Netflix???”
“You’re in dire need of psychiatric help.”
“YOU CHOSE MUMMY!”
“I’m sorry I sent ranting texts last night.”
“Pick up the phone.”
“How do we find new soulmates?”
“Pick up the phone.”
“Hey can you put me on tape for this JLo film?”
“Pick up the phone.”
“I’m just really upset and sad.”
“Pick up the phone.”
“Let’s try to work as a team.”
“Want more?”

Now I just have in my head the brand new mAlice Talking Doll (tm). 50 threatening phrases! Comes with perma-attached iPhone, dog blanket and bucket of red lipstick! Rat and Prius Playset, Green Manky Pool funtime Playset and Parking Lot Altercation Playset sold separately!

 

[Just William]

@claudiarocks @KikiFromNy @Caroline Of Brunswick
@Life in the Shire @sallygsoton @ThisishowIlivenow
@tropeonarope @lulooo @Junebug895 @peteburnsreincarnated @Autisteuse

Spoiler: Thank You

all so much for your kind supportive & lovely messages, your caring words made me cry, (there's still a part of me from my childhood that makes me feel unworthy) your words touched me very much. Loads of love & hugs to you all, xxx

Spoiler: To my sis/bro turds

When I began posting months ago I never dreamed that on these threads I would find an online family & that has been the sweetest surprise!
So many turds have been through way worse than I have yet remain so kind & compassionate, so many of you are inspirational.
It feels like I have known you all for much longer than it has been as we have been through a lot railing against the abuse & lies of AE, etc.
While I don't know any of you in RL that doesn't stop me from you. xxx Thanks for the love & support you've always shown me.

I'm really sorry for my pity party the other day, it just got too much for me. @tropeonarope was spot on. I've been raging since Alice deliberately sabotaged the PRO hearing & for her to then set up a GFM (after posting such vicious lies about Ioan & the timing) was the last straw when so many others around the world face genuine RL challenges. I didn't realise just how much rage I was internalising until after I stepped back last week & began to feel lighter in myself.

On a personal level I have much to be grateful for & even if it didn't seem that way I am grateful for the blessings I do have; a safe secure roof over my head, a nice flat & most importantly, some wonderful long term RL friends. Most are long distance, but one has moved & is now just 45 minutes away (as opposed to 2 1/2 hours) so we have seen much more of each other which is fab! But I am in touch with my friends often & with two we speak on the phone weekly & text daily.

I'm so grateful to a dear RL friend who has helped me out £ wise when I have been struggling. Two close friends told me in no uncertain terms to always ask but I had held off as it's an awful feeling but I have no family, my parents passed many years ago & I had to go NC with my only sibling years ago for my peace of mind. But it's swings & roundabouts isn't it, as when I had £ I was always happy to help out if a friend was in need.

Now that there's finally a reliable internet here I'm looking into some things I might be able to do online to try & make a little bit of extra money?

I've been doing a bit of catching up (but will start properly on #108 after I have done these posts) I hope I haven't missed anyone out?

I wish I could give you all a big squidgy hug (squidgy cos' I'm a fattie!) but only *if* you were into hugs of course, lol! I'm a hugger!
It's prob' one of the things I miss the most being single.

@claudiarocks - I do hope you're ok sweet lady? Please look after yourself & I hope your stepping back helps you as it did me & I look forward to seeing you back here when you're ready. You bring such light & humour to these threads with your wonderful SOH & it wouldn't be the same without you. Much love & hugs, xxx

@ReturningthePearls - I hope you're okay lovely lady? I know you have had some especially dark days lately, but please take care of yourself, you're not alone, we're all here for you if you need a safe place to land & vent & (like dear Claudia) these threads wouldn't be the same without you!
Much love & hugs, xxx

@Zippysays & @Caroline Of Brunswick - I am so sorry you both had to part with such precious mementoes when you were in dire need of money. But it speaks volumes about you both & puts Alice to shame. (Not that she feels any.) I'm just so sorry that life put you in such a heart breaking position. I send you both love & hugs, xxx

@plinky2 - is that really you, lol! I'm very glad to see you back, it's been a loooooong time! xxx

@cherryjuice - I'm so sorry your little girl is so ill. I really hope all your efforts with the insurers (& your supporters) pays off. Literally.
It must be especially sickening to see Alice & her GFM. She wouldn't recognise genuine need if it bitch slapped her hard in the face.
Sending best wishes & I hope your precious girls much needed meds get covered, one less thing for you to worry about & I hope you get your raise. Love & hugs,

@welshfitnessgirl - I'm so very sorry you never got any support after having to make such a difficult decision. I agree with @Autisteuse I think you're very brave to share & it's awful there is still stigma & echo her sentiments that you did what was right for you. You both did.
My love & hugs to you both, xxx

@ZipSilver - I feel for you as I know what it's like to grow up with parents locked in an unhappy marriage but what you had to endure was a nightmare. I'm so sorry that all of your cries for help weren't listened to. You have come such a long way & should feel very proud.
My love & hugs, xxx

@Knitwit said:
Thank you. I am really proud, I had no idea I was so resourceful till I had to be and the really wonderful thing to come out of it all is that all my girls are all real grafters, they are determined to never be financially reliant on anyone

That's because you're a great role model! xxx (Something Alice will never be.)

It's a small world!
I was reminded of this when I got my flat after being homeless for 4 months. Years previously where I lived prior to being homeless I was
friendly with a lady (still am) whose neighbour & best friend I knew just to say "hello" to. FF years later & when I was being shown around where I live now I spotted a lady (this was when masks were mandatory everywhere) & thought "it can't be?" Yeah, it was the best friend (she recognised me too!) & even more funny to us both was me ending up living in the flat above her!
Sadly only for a year as she died not long before Christmas. But bless her kind heart, she introduced me to a friend she had made here (they were both newbies) & we became friends too & she in turn is friends with another resident I'd always chatted with (she has a dog & I adore dogs!) & we're now friends so I have gained two new friends here & both have dogs, lol! #doggyheaven #ilovecanines #dogsarethebest Haha!
We're not in each others pockets but pop in for a natter/coffee & go to some of the stuff put on here together & one has been following this shitstorm & is Team #Ioan.

I'll return to lurking as I try to catch up properly on #108!

 

[Diamonds60]

I just realised that when she says he won’t divorce me it’s code for I asked for everything - the house, the nanny and to be cared for forever and Ioan didn’t sign on the dotted line.

 

[ButterTart]

I do believe Cog71 is Alice so I’m not sure why her ex bestie thinks it’s not.

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She also confirmed her EBay name had been outed in her response to the TRO request. Reddit outed her as cog71. Tattlers found her other accounts. I don’t doubt this is her Ebay account.

 

[Hiraeth]

I'm still trying to work out whether Alice can't work because (i) Ioan asked her not to; or (ii) she's laid up at least 4 days a week with her self-diagnosed illnesses. Which is it, Alice, because you really can't have it both ways. If you're as ill as you say you are, you certainly can't get acting jobs since no director in the world is going to schedule shoots 3 days out of a week. If Ioan asked you not to work, you must have been well enough to have a career to give up.

Logic really isn't her strong suit.

 

[sierraromeo]

That’s deffo our Alice, look at the words used on the feedback (Kind, Kindest…her favourite words (which always makes me when she over uses them.)

Sort of suprised (or am I ) that her ex bestie is adamant this isn’t her, either she has a lot of reading ( see the WIKI!) to catch up on or something isn’t right with her story.

Look, if she hadn’t have set up a GFM page pleading poverty and desperation and putting it in the Emergencies section. Nobody would be interested in her bloody Ebay (in fact you could say, she is tightening her belt and buying her clothes from there instead of at an expensive boutique..so good for her, that’s responsible etc..) but she did set up one and anyone with half a brain could see why she set it up on the very same weekend as MC. So the fact that she is merrily buying clothes using her outed alias (i’m sure Ioans lawyers could find out if its deffo her if needed) is what is soo despicable to me.

The concert ticket was another thing that annoyed me, whether its a free ticket or not …..Alice as a mother should have sat E down and gently explained that it just wouldn’t look right for E to be going as she has had to ask people for donations as they are in a dire predicament atm, So maybe wait until they are out of the woods and have sorted themselves out and then you can go to a concert. (Just my opinion.)

I agree with others that she is emotionally immature ( have always thought this since seeing her bag offerings.) she’s like a big teenager, and she really hasn’t thought of the implications of defrauding people on a GFM site, nor does she care. The goal was to humiliate Ioan when he had cameras stuck in his face and if B suffered a flare due to stress then good. IMO she is desperate to break them up and for him to come back her outbursts from someone aged about 14 on their first love breakup.

Just a note on age appropriate topics:
No 12 year old should be aware of food shortages if it’s at all possible to avoid.
There should never have been any public talk of that.
“We’re in transition, we’re moving from one part of our life to the next exciting stage, so just for now, we can’t spend a lot of money. It’s just for now, not forever. Everything is okay, we’re okay.” That’s all a 12 year old should hear. And subsequently won’t agitate for concert tickets. (But that’s dependant on seeing Mum cutting back on her own expenses; if new clothes are arriving from EBay, this whole thing doesn’t work.)

 

[MrsDimSum]

I'm still trying to work out whether Alice can't work because (i) Ioan asked her not to; or (ii) she's laid up at least 4 days a week with her self-diagnosed illnesses. Which is it, Alice, because you really can't have it both ways. If you're as ill as you say you are, you certainly can't get acting jobs since no director in the world is going to schedule shoots 3 days out of a week. If Ioan asked you not to work, you must have been well enough to have a career to give up.

Logic really isn't her strong suit.

Or the 3rd option, Her Babies need her to be at home waiting for them whilst they are at school full time and the Nanny is also at their home waiting for them

 

[plinky2]

I think that there is just too much pointing in her direction to assume we are all incorrect and barking up the wrong tree

Someone using that account name has posted a ton of exact same life dramas as Alice online over a long period of time and she knows she’s been outed on eBay as she accused Ioan of doing it.
Her daughter is pictured wearing the T-shirt

Case closed m’Lord

 

[klarakluckbag]

Pot, kettle

 

[KikiFromNy]

I’ll just keep saying this … sometimes a cunt is just a cunt. And I don’t see anyone making a trauma competition here.

No one knows anything about Alice’s childhood or upbringing or interior life. No one knows if there was any actual, serious trauma in her life. So all we can go on is her actions. The rest of it sounds like an excuse.

All I can do is judge her by her actions. Which are toxic, reprehensible and as she is an adult, something she can control. She chooses not to, with great damage to others.

That is what I focus on. Your mileage may vary.

I mean... I don't know I just suffer from it. Yet still believe many traumas are way worse than what I have been through. I think we have way too many people thinking today that their stubbed toe is as bad as someone's leg being amputated because "it traumatized them!"

I live in a family that when I announced I had cancer where several members were quick to say "oh but it's not as bad as when I (hurt my arm, had pre-cancerous cells, had to have sinus surgery - play along and make up your own! It's fun!)"

My own psychologist and psychiatrist are quick to say that some trauma people claim nowadays is nowhere bad as trauma trauma.

There are people like Alice who think being told "no" is a trauma and I have no doubt her brain produces trauma symptoms.

But honestly - I'm old and just don't care.


Sometimes a cunt is just a cunt.

A legit talk show? With her legal issues and under a PRO or NDA? No network would be that stupid. At least I hope. She also has nothing to bring. Her only interest is herself and turning things back to herself at the first opportunity. Blech.

Especially since no one knows who the hell she is here!

 

[Harper99]

I do believe Cog71 is Alice so I’m not sure why her ex bestie thinks it’s not.

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It’s her account on numerous internet sites. But somehow just not eBay? I call BS. One more check in the untrustworthy column.

 

[Ice Cream Enthusiast]

I saw this package at work Friday night and it made me think of our @ReturningthePearls who I was missing during her little break.

To make this relevant: Dear Alice, I have worked full time nights lifting heavy packages at UPS for 20 years. I did this while being a divorced Mom of 2 sons. I also do this while suffering from my own autoimmune/chronic illnesses. It's not easy, but I do it. Staying in bed 4 days a week is not an option anymore. Get a job!

 

[NarcRage]

the whole thing has reached batshit levels, that AEA account immediately jumped on Lin that she is aiding fraud and that it will have legal consequences for her (LOL), I mean, even if she is still acting under Alice's orders this is just crazy stuff.

They also keep spreading untrue things, like that Alice deleted her ebay account (she didn't), to basically create evidence that it's her. Alice is shooting herself enough into the foot, it's not working to Ioan's advantage to try to create shit on top of that

Spoiler: hi, I'm Alice

apparently some of that crew has concluded that I am Alice based on something I've never said. Jeez, I hate how much craziness is on both sides (supporter-wise)

Welp if you're Alice...that's a Netflix series right there