Dan Wootton has been sacked. Hurray! Huw and mum are probably having a celebratory tipple ![Clinking glasses :champagne_glass: š„](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f942.png)
eta: oops, only by the Mail. Still employed by GB News![Tired face :tired_face: š«](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f62b.png)
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eta: oops, only by the Mail. Still employed by GB News
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the trouble is, this isnāt just a closeted gay man in the public eye who has been outted. It goes a lot deeper than that;I think he might? It would be a good way of getting back into the public eye and into peopleās good books again while also reinventing/relaunching himself. He would probably have to make some sort of statement beforehand though to be āacceptedā again (), because most people are probably going to feel like they need an explanation of some sort.
I was watching Strictly last night and the Channel 4 newsreader taking part made me think of Huw.
Oh absolutely and heās no angel - far from it -by all accounts. At the VERY least, heās been very irresponsibleā¦but people can also be incredibly fickle when it comes to people in the public eye. If you think of someone like Michael Barrymore, who was completely ācancelledā at one point, and who was (still is?) suspected of being involved in the actual death of a person, and who is now receiving a weird amount of support on social media, and seems to be relaunching himself through different avenues. A lot of people have very short memories and I think if Huw gets a hint of encouragement down the line, being the type that he is, he wonāt be able to resist being back in the spotlight, one way or another IMO.the trouble is, this isnāt just a closeted gay man in the public eye who has been outted. It goes a lot deeper than that;
1. the accusation that the young person whose parents went to the sun was underage AND vulnerable . This is maybe wrong, maybe the police havenāt been able to establish any evidence of this. And the youth in question is unwilling to cooperate. But itās definitely an uneasy set of circumstances that border on being very, very unsavoury.
2. the accusations that emerged of inappropriate behaviour at work. Not a small thing, given that Huw held a very high up and public position within the BBC.
3. The allegations that he broke lockdown. Again, no small thing given Huwās role in reporting and encouraging compliance with lockdown rules. No small thing given the lack of integrity here.
all of those emerged before any internal BBC investigation which makes me concerned about what further digging would actually reveal. My guess is there are a lot more skeletons there.
none of the above are small, trivial things. As a society we should absolutely hold our press and our public figures up to a fair standard of integrity. It isnāt something we should gloss over because we are fond of a persona. A robust and free press is essential to a functioning democracy and when we have news anchors undermining public policies, they open themselves up to coercion and political bias. Thatās the reality of it.
my feeling is that the moment Huw leaves his medical treatment facility, the floodgates open on a lot of other bad behaviour. If he knew there was nothing else, surely heād have been able to issue some form of statement claiming his innocence? The silence is deafening IMO.
i donāt wish Huw badly, I think this could be a case of a decent person doing bad things. But as a consequence of doing bad things, he shouldnāt have a return to public life. He should accept the consequences of his actions and retire from public life.
the weasel that is Matt Hancock has some reality TV gigs, but heās become a mockery. He is constantly derided on social media. People see through his rehearsed PR lines āI fell in loveā and his pathetic attempts at redemption. No one sympathises with him. Heās become a mockery in his attempt at changing public perception of him and trying to stay in the public eye.
Huw was more respected that Matt Hancock and had a longer, more illustrious career. Surely he would owe it to his career to bow out as gracefully as he can at this point, instead of reducing himself to some tacky stint on strictly?
I donāt think many people support Michael Barrymore thoughā¦ I donāt feel like he has a big fan base per se.Oh absolutely and heās no angel - far from it -by all accounts. At the VERY least, heās been very irresponsibleā¦but people can also be incredibly fickle when it comes to people in the public eye. If you think of someone like Michael Barrymore, who was completely ācancelledā at one point, and who was (still is?) suspected of being involved in the actual death of a person, and who is now receiving a weird amount of support on social media, and seems to be relaunching himself through different avenues. A lot of people have very short memories and I think if Huw gets a hint of encouragement down the line, being the type that he is, he wonāt be able to resist being back in the spotlight, one way or another IMO.
I agree, I donāt think Huw is a narcissist at all; I canāt see him sitting idle for long though *if* he has that option to do something eventually, even if itās an independent project.I donāt think many people support Michael Barrymore thoughā¦ I donāt feel like he has a big fan base per se.
he employed pretty aggressive PR tactics at the time of Stuart Lubbockās death, and was able to exploit prejudices and biases in his favour (so many people disregarded the incident as some guy getting high and drowning and still do). A lot of the misinformation about Stuartās death, still believed to this day - was a result of Michael Barrymores interviews and press intervention. Channel 4 did a brilliant documentary examining the events surrounding Stuartās death and MBās response to it, back in 2020. Id throughly recommend if anyone hasnt watched it.
his career ended then, but because heās such a raging narcissist he canāt bring himself to stay out of the spotlight, so he pays for favourable PR and is relentlessly trying to claw his way back onto TV. His career is done I canāt see him ever getting a lucrative steady gig ever again. The big brother gig was the best heās ever done. Because heās funny, heās able to win people on side. But his humour hasnāt aged well and always punched down. That man is finished, and rightly so. If he had a shred of decency in him, heād have shrunk away and told the police all he knows and faced the consequences. Iāve not interested in seeing scum like MB on TV, personally.
I donāt get the same raging narc vibes from Huw to be honest. I think heās maybe very entitled, very naive and maybe very lacking in character and integrityā¦ but I donāt think heās narcissistic enough to try and cling onto public life the way the likes of Michael Barrymore and Matt Hancock have.
in fact, the opposite so far. A narcissist wouldnāt have laid low the way Huw has, and wouldāve tried to control and spin the narrative in their favour. Huw hasnāt done that.
I agree. I can sympathise that this has blindsided him, heās been outted before he could do it on his own terms, he had pre-existing mental health issuesā¦ I can get that from a legal perspective heās maybe been told to say nothing.I would respect him more if he took responsibility and addressed the situation even via via other persons such as his wife or lawyer.
This total silence seems to me like he's hoping it's all going to go away. Which it's not
I donāt think issuing a short statement would do him any favours at this point. We already know he is suspended and there is an investigation he is subject to. He could acknowledge that but it leaves him open to questions of āwell if he can issue a statement to say that why isnāt he issuing a denial or addressing any of the accusationsā it doesnāt gain him anythingI agree. I can sympathise that this has blindsided him, heās been outted before he could do it on his own terms, he had pre-existing mental health issuesā¦ I can get that from a legal perspective heās maybe been told to say nothing.
but itās been two months now.
he was a trusted news reporter for years. Out of respect to the general public who 1. Paid his salary and 2. Put their trust in him, surely he should issue some sort of statement if even just to acknowledge the suspension and internal investigation?
as time goes on.. itās just starting to make him look like a weak man who canāt face up to the consequences of his actions.
Still howling over this, @Pom BearMaybe HE should come back to read the news in a variety of disguisesxx ..
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Looool Glad you enjoyed them
āPanorama: A celebrity backsides specialā.Jeez what a let down! And the sneaky, secretive marketing. I wonder if Huw thought it could be about him?![]()
Huw Edwards and Hugh Bonneville both freaking out:āPanorama: A celebrity backsides specialā.
Two infamous butts on the same stage.Huw and HughMaybe they could share a Panorama special so that they could at least coordinate dress codes.
āDisgracefully dressed down: a Huw Edwards and Hugh Bonneville investigationā