Have you ever known someone who turned out to be a murderer?

[orangelolly]

I used to have contact (through work) with a woman who allowed her 3 year old to be starve to death. She didn't realise she was dead until 2 days later. It was quite a high profile case at the time and we had press trying to interview us.
My husband used to work in the city centre of a large UK city. The CCTV of their building covered a street with lots of bars/restaurants on and they were often asked to supply CCTV to the police for crimes that had happened. One incident was a teacher out on the last day of term. He'd left his friends to catch the last bus home and was walking down the street alone whilst looking at his phone. He passed 4 men and one randomly turned round and punched him. They all walked off like nothing had happened. The teacher fell and hit the back of his head on the kerb which killed him. Imagine, just minding your own business, to then being punched and dead?!

 

[Justanotherblogger]

Yes I worked with a women who killed her 3 year old then tried to kill herself. She was leading a double life and had told 3 men the child was theirs and was playing the child off against all these men. She pleaded insanity and got 8 years for man slaughter

 

[petitspois]

A friend of my sister in law was getting a lot of hassle from.a guy who she met in a club. He wouldn't take no for an answer when she said she didn't want to go out with him. This guy turned out to be Levi Bellfield.

I think he’s been responsible for so many more crimes

 

[ChubClubThug]

You know what all these people have in common.....YOU!

I'd be super scared to live near you!!!

You need to be....

 

[TheWitchIsBack]

Do you think murder is a mental, genetic or environmental thing or all three? I’m so fascinated by it all!

This is the most fascinating part of it all.

Childhood trauma is very common for serial killers so there’s definitely the environmental factor with it but genetically are they predisposed?

Or is the ability to kill within us all, but our upbringings and socialisation teach us right from wrong and create a boundary that decency won’t let us cross?

I love trying to understand it and am fascinated by the serial killer interviews and the creation of behavioural science (made famous by the Mindhunter series) and the original book the series was based on is really interesting.

 

[urghwhy]

I didn't go to school with someone who turned out to be a murderer butttt I was very close to someone who turned out to be a rapist! He pleaded guilty in crown court and the victim was an absolute state afterwards that I don't think it was made up.

Makes me feel a bit sick sometimes because I wonder should I have known? But then how can I, it was completely out of nowhere. Sometimes you don't know people as well as you think you did.

 

[Twinkle485]

there was male teachers convicted of sexual relations with students.
A girl a year below me killed a man and lived in the flat with his body for a few days apparently. She did murder him im just not sure on the second part.
Where I’m originally from though murders, rape and pedos are rife. Police just haven’t enough funding to deal with it all.

 

[ComeonLen]

I'm fascinated by murder and I was thinking of setting up a thread to discuss the trials I follow/Facebook stalking I do Would anyone be interested?

Erm, yes please! Anything scary or true crime related is my jam!

 

[justheretonamedrop]

Yes. I will not name the monster but if you’re local you’ll know from me explaining. Woman, mother of 5 children I believe, I got to know her through a young (not blood but close) family member having cancer, she was involved in the charity work and although she gave me (and a lot of us) weird vibes, we were all very grateful for her efforts and she became very close to the family of the child. Rumours were about that her brother was the father of her children. Sadly, this was true. A year or two ago, it’s believed her older children discovered that their dad was not actually dead, but infact their uncle, and in an attempt to cover it up and stop social services taking her children, her attitude was “I brought them into the world, I will take them out.” Herself and the brother/father attempted to poison* the children and when that failed they hung and strangled the older boys and attempted to drown the rest. Sadly, the older boys did not survive. Heartbreaking story, really shocked the community. I believe they are knocking down the house it happened in and going to plant a memorial tree in its place. No body would ever want to live in that horror house.

 

[LittleMy]

Do you think murder is a mental, genetic or environmental thing or all three? I’m so fascinated by it all!

I personally think it’s a mix of all three. A lot of the time we hear of killers and they almost always have had an awful childhood; raised in abusive households, for example. Probably experiencing some underlying mental health issues as a result. Every one of us has the potential to kill inside of us (think self-defence), but I think there must be a limit to how much a person can take mentally before they snap and react. I do believe the way we’re raised has a lot to do with how we turn out and our perception of what is right and wrong, good and evil etc.

 

[PrincessCharming]

I can’t add to the thread but since starting to read it I’ve been getting pop up ads from Police Scotland telling me grooming kids is a crime and to seek help. This site is about as hardcore as my internet use gets. I wonder if the paedos are getting my Aldi wine delivery pop ups.

 

[Prince fan 1999]

A friend of my sister in law was getting a lot of hassle from.a guy who she met in a club. He wouldn't take no for an answer when she said she didn't want to go out with him. This guy turned out to be Levi Bellfield.

 

[Candyprincess]

Not me personally, but my uncle was really close friends with Jeremy Bamber my grandma absolutely despised him, said he was such a horrible person & always refused to let him into her house because she got such bad vibes from him, wouldn’t even let him go into the garden. When the whole thing happened she just sat there and said to my uncle “told you he was a fucking psycho”

 

[OnlyHereForTheLolz]

No, surprisingly given the estate I come from. But my dad worked with a man (also from the estate) after he'd been released after serving time for killing his girlfriend when he was a teenager. He's a family man now. Claims he can't really remember anything about what happened. She was making fun of him and he picked up a brick and battered her with it.

My dad used to pick him up in the mornings and would forget sometimes so said murderer would ring the house and I'd usually answer.

Oh, just remembered there was a lad from the year below me who got done for manslaughter not long after leaving school. He and an older guy, who was the ringleader, drowned a guy in the bath. Drink and drug related I think. He continued to be in trouble after being released and is dead now.

I'm fascinated by murder and I was thinking of setting up a thread to discuss the trials I follow/Facebook stalking I do Would anyone be interested?

Yes, start a group. I’ve always been fascinated by these things and like to speculate and be amateur detectives

 

[Ponponpon]

I’m so glad this is anonymous...

2 of my ex boyfriends ended up murdering people. I actually hate myself for being with them, I carry so much guilt inside myself for it although I must clarify I wasn’t with either of them at the time

I understand why you do, but you shouldn't feel any guilt. You had no control over it. Sending virtual hugs.

 

[Stimpii]

When my son was at nursery we got a message one day to say it was closed due to a bereavement. A 3 year old boy had died (it was said he’d choked on sick in his sleep).

It took a long time for the truth to come out. The mum’s boyfriend had killed the child and the mum allowed it to happen.

 

[Raininvain]

Over 10 years ago a wealthy man was robbed here and murdered and they have never got the criminals who did it. I had some information regarding who was responsible and there was like a review and it was back on the news appealing for fresh information etc. I discussed it with my friends who said that I shouldn't say anything etc and stay out of it. Anyway, I thought well it was one of my loved ones I'd want any help I could get etc. I phoned up the person doing the investigation and she couldn't be any more dismissive if she tried. Basically she just rubbished what I said. O.K.. You've still not got them...

 

[proseccolove]

I’ve just discovered this thread and omg I am living for it. Love stuff like this. There’s something wrong with me.

 

[ricecakes]

I’ve always been fascinated with lawyers who are on the defending side - can I ask how you act for someone who you know has committed a crime? I think my question is maybe too simple and I’m sure there’s no straight answer. I work in corporate legal but I’ve always been so interested in criminal law xx

When you talk about 'defending' a client, you are not defending their actions you are defending their rights from a legal perspective. As a defence lawyer you are there to make sure that your clients rights aren't violated in anyway throughout the proceedings and pretty much be an advocate for them

(Hope this answers your question and I'm not teaching you to suck eggs )

 

[AnderbeauJohnson]

I didn't know either of them but in 2016 my then next-door-neighbour's other next-door-neighbour beat his eight month pregnant fiancé, then stabbed her in the head and stomach before jumping out of a window. He ended up getting 21 years for attempted murder but at the trial six months later the doctors said it was 'virtually impossible' for her to ever wake up from her coma. Luckily the doctors were able to perform a c-section and save the child who went to live with her parents.

I didn't notice anything suspicious before that night and I didn't hear anything on the night until he jumped but the saddest part was that it said at the trial that multiple neighbours had heard him screaming and attacking her for an hour before he eventually stabbed her but nobody called the police.