Can see that 100%, sadly.Sadly I can see Archie growing up to be a Brooklyn Beckham type z lister. Dating models, being papped bleary eyed at coachella, pretending to have a career but really just sponging off the fam. Then finally checking into rehab for exhaustion.
And at least she has a spouse that isn't a media whore and can accompany her without embarrassing anyone. Oh, and he doesn't have a title either, yet has more class than Markle has in her little finger.I like Eugenie let her do some Royal walkabouts/meets.
Id love to follow a royal around for a week see what they actually do.Apart from having terrible parents and mainly known for spending most of their time on holiday. The queen was right to say no to giving them bigger roles when Andy tried that one.
None of the 3 senior royals or their partners have any engagements in February, unless their online calendar thing is broken. How busy are they actually? https://www.royal.uk/future-engagements
Such a waste.Sadly I can see Archie growing up to be a Brooklyn Beckham type z lister. Dating models, being papped bleary eyed at coachella, pretending to have a career but really just sponging off the fam. Then finally checking into rehab for exhaustion.
This is a really good point. Kate, Diana, Camilla the Queen, all the “official royal” women in that family had no profession or preexisting aspirations, let alone a job. RF gig was their job, it was all they aspired to do in life, so they didn’t feel so stifled by the monarchy machine, although even Diana found it borderline unbearable. To me, this is a damning indictement of the whole institution, that women are so limited and meant to literally disappear into their roles. Meghan is obviously a piece of work, but she is an independant woman with personality and opinions. Any institution that doesn’t tolerate that is highly problematic in this day and age.Here's my take on it.
She clearly doesn't like being constrained in any way. She has a lot to say on issues she's passionate about (which seems to mainly be being a woman and being a woman of colour) and wants to come and go and do as she pleases, exactly as she did before, but hasn't been allowed to. Even if you thought you knew what you were getting into, you probably didn't really. Add in having to move to a new country and becoming a member of a family not exactly known for their warmth and fuzziness, together with the ongoing onslaught of the press every day, I don't doubt it's been tough for her.
But I suspect Harry may be somewhat to blame. I think he promised her that they were going to make waves, do things a new way, she'd be allowed to say what she wanted to and that the RF would be welcome all this change but they have found themselves squashed and suppressed at every turn.
Also, from everything I've read, whilst he loves some of what he does - meeting people (which he clearly has an infinity for) the Invictus Games and his work in Africa for example - he was bored of the more formal, mundane stuff that the Royals have to do. I accept that he's incredibly privileged but it must be very difficult not having a defined role in life and not really being able to go out and find yourself one either. Charles for example - imagine waiting 70+ years to start the job you were born to do? The rest of us are retired by that point! That's why he's worked incredibly hard to make something of The Prince of Wales. Harry was apparently happiest in the army, just being one of the lads, being normal. I think Meghan has zoned in on that unhappiness and chipped away at him and this is the result.
I do feel sad because I really wanted them to suceed - despite being a bitter old cynic, I am also a hopeless romantic. But the more I learned about her, I just see her as ruthless. An absolute ruthless social climber. Whilst I don't blame her entirely, it can't be a co-incidence that he has effectively abdicated less than two years after marrying her?
Yes, he had behaved terribly and petulantly recently especially the lack of respect he has shown the Queen, his boss and his grandmother, by jumping the gun and releasing that statement effectively forcing her hand - he knows the game well enough to know that was never going to go down well - but I strongly suspect Meghan was behind that. But I do think he'll be back in the fold and hopefully he'll be able to build bridges with William & Kate once the inevitable divorce comes though. I hope so anyway because I think he's really going to need his family.
He seems a great catch tbh.And at least she has a spouse that isn't a media whore and can accompany her without embarrassing anyone. Oh, and he doesn't have a title either, yet has more class than Markle has in her little finger.
I agree, his family are obviously private people going about their own business and I don't get the impression they're the sort who'd bring any sort of disrespect on the royals.He seems a great catch tbh.
Also, he will eventually become a Baron through his own family.
It’s not limited to women, prince Philip made a lot of sacrifices as well. It’s an ancient institution, deal with it or don’t enter it. You can do so much good things while never ever having to worry about food or a roof over your head. This privilege comes with sacrifices, take it or leave it. Meghan wants the tiara, the palace, admiration and love AND a lot of money making schemes next to the public funding. Those things don’t combine.This is a really good point. Kate, Diana, Camilla the Queen, all the “official royal” women in that family had no profession or preexisting aspirations, let alone a job. RF gig was their job, it was all they aspired to do in life, so they didn’t feel so stifled by the monarchy machine, although even Diana found it borderline unbearable. To me, this is a damning indictement of the whole institution, that women are so limited and meant to literally disappear into their roles. Meghan is obviously a piece of work, but she is an independant woman with personality and opinions. Any institution that doesn’t tolerate that is highly problematic in this day and age.
As always, narcissists will always ruin it for themselves. lolMy take on all this is that the Queen has left the HRH status intact, but not to be used, as she knows at some point Harry will be back with his tail between his legs. At that point Meghan will be stripped of the HRH and Harry will be allowed to use it again so that he can reintegrate to the RF. I also think the review in a year's time is to ensure that both H&M adhere to the new rules, with further restrictions to come at that point if they don't. I think Harry is in for a rude awakening as he will no longer have the special status that has protected him from the worst of the paps - if he thinks it's been bad so far, he ain't seen nothing yet! The gloves will definitely be off now.
I agree but MM would have been briefed in full regarding her future role and she was eased into it during the engagement period etc, she wasn’t blindsided like Diana, also times have changed from all those years ago with more support put in place.This is a really good point. Kate, Diana, Camilla the Queen, all the “official royal” women in that family had no profession or preexisting aspirations, let alone a job. RF gig was their job, it was all they aspired to do in life, so they didn’t feel so stifled by the monarchy machine, although even Diana found it borderline unbearable. To me, this is a damning indictement of the whole institution, that women are so limited and meant to literally disappear into their roles. Meghan is obviously a piece of work, but she is an independant woman with personality and opinions. Any institution that doesn’t tolerate that is highly problematic in this day and age.
Yeah, I’m of a mindset that just because an institution has tradition, it doesn’t mean it should stay exactly the same. Besides, BRF changed plenty over the decades, so why retain a medieval outlook on the role of women? I never said sacrifices shouldn’t be made, just that men in RF get to have independent careers/jobs/interests (military, Charles Duchy business etc) while women are expected to breed, look pretty and follow their man around. The Queen is only queen because a man gave up the job, she did well over the years but she hasn’t fostered better position for women in the BRF at all. I think that sucks. Also if two people fall in love they’ll try to stay together despite their dysfunctional families, but dysfunction is still in that family and no amount of hate against the couple can erase that. Harry and Meghan are far from being the only ones to blame for this mess.It’s not limited to women, prince Philip made a lot of sacrifices as well. It’s an ancient institution, deal with it or don’t enter it. You can do so much good things while never ever having to worry about food or a roof over your head. This privilege comes with sacrifices, take it or leave it. Meghan wants the tiara, the palace, admiration and love AND a lot of money making schemes next to the public funding. Those things don’t combine.
Agree.I agree but MM would have been briefed in full regarding her future role and she was eased into it during the engagement period etc, she wasn’t blindsided like Diana, also times have changed from all those years ago with more support put in place.
Kate Middleton went to Uni and she had a job and she is not a statue I’m sure she has her own opinions as well, and Diana made hers well known I think it’s all about the money,
All the kerfuffle and the racism debates and the like are just way too deep MM was a social climber and it’s basically about the money some people really are that shallow unfortunately.
From what I’ve read, Kate has a history of art degree (just like every other upper class person who never plans to work for a living) and seems to have been working a little bit in her family business while wiating to marry William. Diana was one of the many girls who were groomed for the position of the future princess, so both of them would’ve known the protocol and expectations. Diana suffered mostly because she realised Charles will never love her, and her pride was hurt that he was cheating with another woman the entire time, not because she found royal duties arduous. If Charles loved her she’d have been as happy as Kate seems to be. If anything, Diana developed independant interests just to remove herself from them, I think she created “people’s princess” role in order to get some support from the public, as she must have felt ostracised in that family.I agree but MM would have been briefed in full regarding her future role and she was eased into it during the engagement period etc, she wasn’t blindsided like Diana, also times have changed from all those years ago with more support put in place.
Kate Middleton went to Uni and she had a job and she is not a statue I’m sure she has her own opinions as well, and Diana made hers well known I think it’s all about the money,
All the kerfuffle and the racism debates and the like are just way too deep MM was a social climber and it’s basically about the money some people really are that shallow unfortunately.
I don’t have a fixed mindset on anything, but you know what, when you’re new to something don’t come in trying to change everything because you know best. Especially not when you’re in a foreign country. People that run into corporate business with that attitude always get fired, I haven’t seen anyone permanently succeed with a know-it-all attitude. People get tired of that really quickly.Yeah, I’m of a mindset that just because an institution has tradition, it doesn’t mean it should stay exactly the same.
Besides, Meghan never wanted to modernize the monarchy, she wanted to monetize it. That’s a no no in any time and age, because it doesn’t go together with public funding and undeserved wealth.Besides, BRF changed plenty over the decades, so why retain a medieval outlook on the role of women?
Nope, I am simply stating what I am stating, that I don’t have a fixed mindset on anything, so also not on the monarchy. So I am not of a mindset nothing can change, but it shouldn’t be forced by a grifter who came waltzing in and thinks she’s the number one because of the instagram followers.Not sure if you’re implying that I have a “fixed mindset” or that having a mindset is somehow wrong,
Well, we disagree on that.but I don’t see how Meghan went in to “change everything”. It seems to me she resisted something, which isn’t the same as waltzing into a corporate job and trying to change the entire organisation with inept newby ideas.
I’m talking about a duchess who is getting paid to wear outfits so the public goes out and get’s the same outfit, of which revenues she gets a part. That’s the dream and a lot of people are convinced practice too, look at the whole Jen Meyer debacle. It’s like paying for your monarchy twice and that’s unacceptable.Lol, the essence of monarchy is that it’s monetised, let’s not pretend they are sitting in their ivory towers leeching public funds because they “care for the people”.
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