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Yeah I wasn't too keen on it either, I dont think it helps that her mum isn't on camera which I totally respect is her choice & it's great Grace doesn't force her to be in the videos but sometimes it makes the dynamic off. I thought the same when she did the cheap & expensive Xmas dinners & her dad wasn't home so it was just Grace then her mum & Chloe who were both off camera. I guess its not ideal for her to spread her wings just now because we are all trapped at home & she only has her mum & dad for company. I'm not too sure what else she can film at the moment to be honest? Maybe some "bake with me" videos?
I think her mum makes videos quite awkward... not even just the camera thing either. To use that vlog as an example, her dad was into it and up for it, but her mum moaned away about having gotten starters and only seemed to really decide to participate when Grace’s dad suggested they merge. It’s not the first time she’s done it either and I feel quite bad for Grace sometimes. If her mum doesn’t want to be on camera I totally get it, but if she doesn’t want to participate at all she could just... not? Rather than bring the dynamic down by complaining. Chloe wasn’t on camera but always seemed to at least be trying to join in. I honestly think that last vlog would have been way better if it was just Grace and her dad deciding then her mum joining them for eating.
 
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RobinsNest

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Grace has even said herself she is basically a child in a woman’s body 🤷‍♀️ I really like Grace and she is probably the only influencer I can actually stand (especially since a load of them came to Dubai and screwed everything up for us residents) and so I am glad she is the way she is. Stating that she demonstrates childish behaviour occasionally is not a criticism it is merely an observation, and something that I like others have said find endearing. It is a quality I actually LIKE about her.
I think you've picked out the important distinction. She isn't necessarily immature, she just has some moment of being quite childish. But I do think a lot of those examples are times when a lot older people will want to act the same way, they just don't tend to do it in public. I have been to a wedding of someone in their 30s that was Disney themed. I have a friend in their 30s that collects build a bear toys.

I do think praising her for doing her own laundry and cooking is a bit extreme though, lots of kids are expected to that from a much earlier age, and everyone who moves out to go to uni or just moves out at 18 does it. At 23, many people have families to look after so being impressed she does some washing and baking is infantilising her a bit.
 
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Danielle1

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I do think shes great as I've said on here but will be honest sometimes i do struggle to watch her, completely not her fault, but I guess since we are the same age and feel like we have some similarities but our lives are so different. I'm not one to really get jealous over celebrities lives or wish I was them but I look at Grace and really do wish I was more like her. I have felt like this more over girls I used to be friends with at school and seeing all the great things they are doing now I guess Grace is just like them too. It's quite pathetc really and I feel like at 22 I'm a bit old to be wishing I was someone else. Obviously she's worked really hard to be as successful as she is and I'm genuinely happy for her to have done so well in her degree, YouTube, etc and she has a lovely family and good circle of friends. She seems confident and happy to be who she really is and I admire that. Just as sometime who grew up in foster care and then was placed back into an abusive family situation that I had to run away from then ended up homeless for two years and still struggle with anxiety, depression, ptsd from it I have always wished to have some sort of family and hers seems like such a happy one and it goes from upsetting me to being sort of weirdly nice to watch every week like one day if I do have kids I will to raise them in a happy family home like hers to feeling sad that I don't know what it's like to have that relationship with family.

I don't really know what the point of posting this is, I just wonder if anyone else feels the same about anyone on youtube? And, of course I know that just because she appears happy online everybody has their struggles and no one's life is 100% perfect and nobody should be jealous over anyone. It's not a nice way to be and I know that so don't want to seem rude by saying this I guess it's just on my mind and don't really have anywhere else I can speak about it. xx
 
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Bumblebee

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The breakfast buffet one where her mum says how lovely grace is and how thankful she is for her, actually made me shed a tear or two.
they seem like such a lovely family. Love the house And how even though it’s obviously a large house they are down to earth and everything is just normal.Ie there’s a bit of mess but you know it’s clean just homely and lived in.
 
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beatrix246

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i love grace but i cant deal with grace and honor together there just so un nesscarily over the top really really over the top is this real or hyped uo for the video it just screams fake

please dont come to me
It reminded me how when Zoe and Mark film together. I can never watch her vlogs, because they are so annoying together giggling at inside jokes. I only lasted 1 min into Grace/Honor's video since it gave me the same vibe.
 
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Regina George

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Don’t know if I’m missing something but what makes you guys think this is cult like?
I’m not religious at all but I assumed most religious people are into their religion because they were bought up that way.. so it doesn’t really shock me that much that most of the family work there?
 
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DigiDuino

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The dairy thing isn’t that weird in my opinion either. The exact same thing happened to my friend, for about 6 years she was intolerant and could barely handle any dairy.
Suddenly it just sort of went away? she tried a little pizza because she missed it and thought she’d just deal with the discomfort but nothing happened

It was really strange but wow was she happy it did!
 
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lola_goss

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Grace is constantly proving she really is a gem. I had no idea there were management companies like this who represent people who want to use their influence for good. I’m so happy for her! She deserves to make some money from YT so hopefully this will help. I imagine that more commercial management teams have been in touch previously, I’m glad she’s held out and found the right one for her 🥰
 
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orlyb1310

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I think when you are associated with an institution that can have unsavoury views (LGBT as an example) such as the church, to not speak up in favour of the minority makes you complicit in the ongoing oppression of that group. I say this as a Christian myself, who for that reason has always been vocally pro-LGBT and pro-choice because I realise the consequences of not doing so.

To choose to be 'non-political' is a mark of privilege.
I do agree that being non political is a mark of privilege and it infuriates me when people can't be bothered to educate themselves enough to vote etc, however, I don't think that just because she belongs to a church, she should have to disclose all of her beliefs every time she mentions it - she hasn't even publicly revealed what church she belongs to. As a Jewish person, I hate when I'm made to give my opinions on international conflicts that I'm not responsible for, just because I'm Jewish. Especially with Judaism, people love to ask questions so that they can tokenise us. I think if she or somebody around her made a derogatory remark in a vlog and someone in the comments brought it up with her, I'd be wary if she ignored it just to avoid conflict but nothing has led me to believe that she isn't pro-lgbt, pro-choice etc like we are (I remember her recently shouting out a fan and her girlfriend that she met in costa or somewhere like that). I like to believe that she educates herself behind the scenes and doesn't make a big performative hoo-hah about current affairs like other influencers do, only for them to continue to appropriate minority cultures. As Told By Kenya on youtube uploaded a great video last week about how we pressure influencers and celebs into making statements about things they aren't qualified to talk about just to make ourselves feel better.
 
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emmer_moans

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I agree, the shopping trips just to buy a snack from a garden centre is not really what you could call essential, but it seems people can't help themselves. Expected more from Grace, I think the pressure to create content is a lot and that's why she keeps going out?
 
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caterday28

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Let us all live then and we will all just do what we want. This attitude is the reason we have the highest death rate in the world. People like you and Grace who don’t give a shit about anyone as long as they are doing what they want. Fuck everyone else I’m alright Jack.
This. I love Grace but there is no excuse for it. Just because other people are doing the same doesn't excuse you.
 
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Peppa123

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My god! Whining about if someone put #Ad and did she did she not break the rules, oh god she went the supermarket for a drink! SO WHAT! yall need a life.
Grace is 23 years old, your all much older by the looks of things! Grow up! If you don’t like her don’t watch her! Jesus Christ!
You need to take your own advice honey. You have been saying some awful things on here to other influencers but that’s ok because you are doing it . You sound like a child .
 
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orlyb1310

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This is a pet peeve of mine, influencers write “AD” in lower capitals “ad” and follow the next word with a capital letter to try and mask its a sponsored post. If anything it should be AD or at least Ad. I never thought I’d see Grace do it to be honest, disappointed.
Same tbh I hate when influencers do that. It should be AD. Some of the worst offenders disguise 'ad' in white writing in the background of their white walls on their instagram stories so you have to proper scour the post to see if they're being paid to flog something they've never used. I have no problem with Grace getting that coin and I do trust that she'll only accept sponsorships from companies she genuinely likes and uses but yeah, I don't like the lowercase 'ad'.
 
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NotAnArtist

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I saw grace and honour today. Their friendship seemed very genuine and they just clearly enjoy spending time together. I personally loved their video. It’s hard in lockdown and tbh who can blame them for getting so excited? Life is so boring right now.

I found this thread by accident and started watching. Is it a rave thread? Sometimes it doesn’t seem that way
I think it sort of goes both ways: Yeah, lockdown has limited a lot of YouTuber's content range, so they put out content that feels quite odd, maybe a bit uninspired, maybe a bit childish sometimes (though I do like Grace's videos personally, they distract me from... well, lockdown).

But with everyone's interaction having been so limited this past year, I would venture a guess that the reason gossip threads for fairly unproblematic creators are taking off is also because we're all bored, have more time to pick things apart, and less time and occasion to engage in "normal" gossip - to complain to friends, share funny anecdotes, and talk to people enough to actually get into disagreements with them.
 
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YellowLadybird

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Whilst I do agree I also do find it a bit 'triggering' (for want of a better word..) how skinny she is. I know it's natural for her but for the majority of people, to be her size you would need to be restricting alot. I dont know..it just doesnt quite sit right.
Yes, it's not Grace's fault, but I do find myself thinking that I would enjoy food too if I knew it couldn't make me fat.
 
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Vanessajenkins

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I loved her products promoted by influencers video. She clearly is not after sponsorship at all. Breath of fresh air.

Side note: I love when she cuts to editing Grace. She is savage.
 
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RobinsNest

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Oh for sure, Grace seems to be much more competent than many other people her age, and I agree with the comparison to ClickforTaz. There is a trend for people to "regress" around their parents as when you're in their company or your childhood home, your mind feels safe and likes to replay behaviours associated with that. (I read a study somewhere about all these people moving back in with their parents due to covid and struggling with the independence v being a child thing, I'll see if I can find it.)
 
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