Grace Beverley #14 delayed gratification is getting into Oxford on your gap year after being rejected once

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greenvelvet said:
it’s obvious that her book is not just for “young people” - it’s for (leaning upper, certainly not lower) middle class young people. Talking as if people work 24/7 and take jobs as Deliveroo/Uber drivers because they want to hustle...it’s because lots of young people have to if they want to afford to live, let alone have a basically acceptable quality of life. It’s also because it’s getting increasingly hard for us to get good jobs.

I really need to read the page she didn’t post, but with the “influencing/instagramming is hyper-fulfilling” thing, it feels like she’s trying to present the issue as actually being about Gen Z being innovative and finding cool new Instagram jobs, rather than exploitation in the structure of “conventional” jobs

“Instagramming” isn’t a reliable route out of conventional work as there is a huge glass ceiling for a lot of people. You need to have free time and financial security to start in influencing, which Grace seems to forget that a lot of people don’t have, even though she says that everyone is working 24/7. You need to be picked up by a bigger organisation usually, like Gleam or Love Island or Gymshark. You also need to be conventionally attractive and young, especially as a woman. It’s not an accessible escape from exploitative work structures and shouldn’t be presented as a viable alternative to them
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Skimmed the article and went straight to the comments - highlights include:

"So all you need to make it is hard graft, a nice bottom and a loaded family?"

"No mention of the massive trust fund"

"Looks more like soft porn"

"A real riches to riches story - it brought a tear to my eye to see how someone from a wealthy family with lots of inherited wealth made it against the odds" (my personal fave)
 
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ispywithmylittleeye59 said:
I’m so interested to know - has anyone on this thread actually been affected by hustle culture?!

I am a millennial and I certainly haven’t! If there is extra work to be done I will obviously do it, but otherwise I am glued to the sofa not caring about looking busy 🤣
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I've been thinking this same thing. I just don't feel like hustle culture is a thing I've actually experienced or is an issue many young people are actually facing. Like....you either have work you need to do or you don't. How is this a 'culture'?
 
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ispywithmylittleeye59 said:
I’m so interested to know - has anyone on this thread actually been affected by hustle culture?!

I am a millennial and I certainly haven’t! If there is extra work to be done I will obviously do it, but otherwise I am glued to the sofa not caring about looking busy 🤣
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I really feel like this book should’ve been written to fellow influencers bc idk who is being impacted by “hustle culture” outside of her influencer bubble

I do have a few friends who seem to be somewhat involved in “hustle culture” - one started her own business on top of working, but she literally works in venture capital and is surrounded by that environment already.

most people I know just do their jobs and get by.
 
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ispywithmylittleeye59 said:
I’m so interested to know - has anyone on this thread actually been affected by hustle culture?!

I am a millennial and I certainly haven’t! If there is extra work to be done I will obviously do it, but otherwise I am glued to the sofa not caring about looking busy 🤣
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Rubysue123 said:
The fact that she suggests people of our generation work multiple jobs because We want to look productive just shows how ridiculously privileged she is. I have seen friends who are in good professions working extra jobs, but that’s to be able to save up for things like weddings and house deposits etc. She is absolute deluded and should have stopped trying to talk about business a long time before she wrote a book.
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Privilege aside, there's definitely some truth in this - doesn't apply to all young people, but I think it does to some who spend a lot of time on social media (not necessarily influencers, but those influenced by them to want to be influencers* (in whatever sphere of life they're in) - whether they realise it or not lol).

It's like that quote "Beyonce has the same 24 hours in a day as you" - some people are constantly comparing themselves to their peers who seem to be "doing the most" and "killing it". So to keep up, they take on a tit ton of stuff to make themselves seem interesting because they're "busy" too. And then they enjoy casually dropping in how "busy and burned out" they are, as if it's a medal of honour.

It's not so much about multiple jobs, but more to do with having multiple projects/things they're working on. For some there's beauty in the "struggle" of making ends meet and then one day getting to the point where they can monetise their hobbies and make them pay. I think this is what Grez is trying to suggest has happened in her cause but it doesn't work because she's from money.
BUT there are people who aren't from privileged backgrounds for whom that is true.

Hope that makes sense? Sorry for the essay lol - just sharing some things I've observed recently based on people I know


*By want to be influencers, I mean people of influence who are considered important/a thought leader in that space. Not someone shilling stuff on social media lol
 
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I still think she spoiled that house with its layout and the extension, the garden could’ve been so lovely and big and she still could’ve had her big island kitchen but she just jumped straight into getting an extension and eating into 3/4 of the outside space. Soz sounds so pernickety but I love interior design lol
 
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I think perhaps what the thing is, maybe some people might make money from hobbies and sell stuff on depop, other people work hard in their “9-5” office jobs, everyone is different. Why do we need grace to comment on it and dissect it?

grace who has never had an office job in her life telling us that people think a 40 hour week is lazy- I’ve never heard that in my life so she’s basically putting ideas out there that to most people don’t exist. I just don’t understand why we need this book at all. Like someone else said, it’s like a self help book for her own weird relationship with proving herself. The rest of us are perfectly happy working hard in our jobs, enjoying our down time and perhaps promoting our friends who do decide to make stuff on Etsy to sell.
 
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Rubysue123 said:
I think perhaps what the thing is, maybe some people might make money from hobbies and sell stuff on depop, other people work hard in their “9-5” office jobs, everyone is different. Why do we need grace to comment on it and dissect it?

grace who has never had an office job in her life telling us that people think a 40 hour week is lazy- I’ve never heard that in my life so she’s basically putting ideas out there that to most people don’t exist. I just don’t understand why we need this book at all. Like someone else said, it’s like a self help book for her own weird relationship with proving herself. The rest of us are perfectly happy working hard in our jobs, enjoying our down time and perhaps promoting our friends who do decide to make stuff on Etsy to sell.
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has she ever had an actual
job never mind office job? obvs she did that internship which she got
through nepotism which
makes me question if she had to work
as hard as everyone else would? and now she’s having a try at playing boss.
happy to be corrected but never heard
of her with a normal job most of us have as teenagers? waitressing? retail? sweeping the floor
of a hairdressers? or even any of the jobs of normal adults i know 🤷🏾‍♀️
 
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aemee321 said:
I still think she spoiled that house with its layout and the extension, the garden could’ve been so lovely and big and she still could’ve had her big island kitchen but she just jumped straight into getting an extension and eating into 3/4 of the outside space. Soz sounds so pernickety but I love interior design lol
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I've thought this too. The garden has been completely eaten up what with the extension and that covered pagoda thing.
 
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“Hmmm” on so many accounts.

FYI, I logged into my work Times account, I’m not a gross Times reader.
 
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Thinking Grace beverley’s book is a load of old shite:
Rightwing boomers 🤝 tattle users

Nah as cringe, wrong and horrible as these opinions are, I’m glad they’re roasting her Times article.
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Excellent take
 
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Deeznutslol said:
Although she says it is for Gen Z, I think she is actually aiming this towards the millennials, I know she is technically a Gen Z, but she is right at the end of it and borderline millennial.
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We don't want her, she can remain Gen Z
 
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Deeznutslol said:
Thinking Grace beverley’s book is a load of old shite:
Rightwing boomers 🤝 tattle users

Nah as cringe, wrong and horrible as these opinions are, I’m glad they’re roasting her Times article.
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It’s still making me chuckle that she huffily deleted her twitter after privilege-gate, so all these companies now have half-cocked social media campaigns where they look like they’ve messed up their tweets bc she’s not clickable 😂 Great decision there grace.
 
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ispywithmylittleeye59 said:
I’m so interested to know - has anyone on this thread actually been affected by hustle culture?!

I am a millennial and I certainly haven’t! If there is extra work to be done I will obviously do it, but otherwise I am glued to the sofa not caring about looking busy 🤣
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Also a millennial, also not a hustle culture person. It's bonkers.

But I do think the whole world of productivity online (and offline in books like Getting Things Done etc) and studytube has meant a lot of people who think they should 'hustle' to be successful at school/at uni/in work. Then the influencers do tit videos (or write tit books) about how they realise now they have a 'toxic' relationship with productivity :rolleyes:
 
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Omg lol Grace showing off her scar actually drives me up the wall

I had a major emergency surgery in January, took care of my wounds properly, and they've healed so nicely that you'd have to be looking for them to be able to tell they're there.

I know her case is different since she got a mole removed but girl.....take care of your scar and stop showing it off? It's weird

It's so sad because I used to be such a huge fan of her back in her uni/vlog days:(
 
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