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That was a powerful read, so beautifully written. ❤ I truly hope people take the time to read it with an open mind.
 
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JK Rowling just released this, about to read it now

Wow. What an incredible read!
Shame I just opened twitter and this was the first thing that came up
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Wow. What an incredible read!
Shame I just opened twitter and this was the first thing that came up View attachment 150852
Jfc, it's definitely a trait of trans activists to stick their head in the sand. bleeping pathetic.

I'm absolutely going to share her essay on my Facebook now.

Also Eddie Redmayne has jumped on the bandwagon with Daniel Radcliffe.
He says he doesn't want to speak on behalf of the transgender community but he has noooo problem speaking for women everywhere.
 
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Wow. What an incredible read!
Shame I just opened twitter and this was the first thing that came up View attachment 150852
Yes because it's definitely not problematic to dismiss the ideas of a woman, imply she should be or could be denied access to her phone like a child, dismiss her achievements tthat have created her platform and say "listen to this man instead". What is this, the 1950s?
 
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Yes because it's definitely not problematic to dismiss the ideas of a woman, imply she should be or could be denied access to her phone like a child, dismiss her achievements tthat have created her platform and say "listen to this man instead". What is this, the 1950s?
“I haven’t read it therefore no one else should either, but you should definitely read this because I, a stranger on the internet, knows what’s best for you”

Why not read both and form your own conclusion? Isn’t that the ‘woke’ thing to do?
 
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I'm in tears. I shared the essay on Facebook just saying "I support JK Rowling ❤ "
Within a couple minutes, someone who I always looked up to and respected, a lecturer I had at uni just commented "This is where we part ways."
and immediately unfriended me.
I half expected it but it's still extremely upsetting.
 
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I'm in tears. I shared the essay on Facebook just saying "I support JK Rowling ❤ "
Within a couple minutes, someone who I always looked up to and respected, a lecturer I had at uni just commented "This is where we part ways."
and immediately unfriended me.
I half expected it but it's still extremely upsetting.
Oh wow! I applaud your bravery for sharing it.
 
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I'm in tears. I shared the essay on Facebook just saying "I support JK Rowling ❤ "
Within a couple minutes, someone who I always looked up to and respected, a lecturer I had at uni just commented "This is where we part ways."
and immediately unfriended me.
I half expected it but it's still extremely upsetting.
I’m so sorry ❤ These “woke” trans activists are so narrow minded and intolerable of other people’s opinions that they will just instantly unfriend you for just sharing your opinion and you have done nothing wrong!
 
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I'm still shaking right now but I don't regret doing it. It's these small things that we need to do.

She has a transgender MtF kid so I didn't expect her to be too happy with it but considering she's a lecturer and I've known her for years I expected her to give me a little bit more respect than that.

What she doesn't know is that it was her rhetoric on Twitter the last couple years that led me towards those who are Gender Critical. And hopefully with my post and her reaction, someone might consider our point of view who wouldn't have before.
 
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I'm in tears. I shared the essay on Facebook just saying "I support JK Rowling ❤ "
Within a couple minutes, someone who I always looked up to and respected, a lecturer I had at uni just commented "This is where we part ways."
and immediately unfriended me.
I half expected it but it's still extremely upsetting.
I find this behaviour disappointing, and I've seen it a lot when people can't have a sensible reasoned discussion about a subject.

I have no issue with Trans people, I feel so very sorry that they feel they way they do and having to go through the trauma of surgery to become the person they believe they are. I do not judge them and hope that they are happy in their new lives.

I will be honest, I do not really understand 'non binary', I don't dispute that people might feel this way but to me gender isn't on a 'scale'. I appreciate that this is something I need to educate myself further on.

I think it is unfair to dismiss concerns of cis-women and there needs to be a real discussion about protecting the rights of both cis and trans women and how this can be achieved without there being the possibility for the rules to be exploited.

With regards to the previous discussion on sport, it seems clear to me that M to F athletes competing as women have an advantage and there needs to be proper open discussion about this in sporting circles. It would not surprise me if we went down the route of genetically testing athletes and them competing under XX or XY chromosomes.
 
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I find this behaviour disappointing, and I've seen it a lot when people can't have a sensible reasoned discussion about a subject.

I have no issue with Trans people, I feel so very sorry that they feel they way they do and having to go through the trauma of surgery to become the person they believe they are. I do not judge them and hope that they are happy in their new lives.

I will be honest, I do not really understand 'non binary', I don't dispute that people might feel this way but to me gender isn't on a 'scale'. I appreciate that this is something I need to educate myself further on.

I think it is unfair to dismiss concerns of cis-women and there needs to be a real discussion about protecting the rights of both cis and trans women and how this can be achieved without there being the possibility for the rules to be exploited.

With regards to the previous discussion on sport, it seems clear to me that M to F athletes competing as women have an advantage and there needs to be proper open discussion about this in sporting circles. It would not surprise me if we went down the route of genetically testing athletes and them competing under XX or XY chromosomes.

They call us “terfs” however the reality of the situation is they are just eradicating us of our opinions and concerns about the fact that, and to quote J K Rowling, “A man who intends to have no surgery and take no hormones may now secure himself a Gender Recognition Certificate and be a woman in the sight of the law. Many people aren’t aware of this.“
 
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How bleeping typical that the usual suspects cried to the mods and got the JK Rowling thread locked.

They’re like cry-bullies at school, tattling to the teacher.
 
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My first post on this thread, but I've been lurking. I've read J.K Rowling's essay and I am so, so in awe of her.
I'm in tears. I shared the essay on Facebook just saying "I support JK Rowling ❤ "
Within a couple minutes, someone who I always looked up to and respected, a lecturer I had at uni just commented "This is where we part ways."
and immediately unfriended me.
I half expected it but it's still extremely upsetting.
I'm so sorry to hear that, and I'm really bleeping angry too. Just seeing all the people on twitter saying "don't read it, she doesn't deserve to be heard", and all those who have already decided we are TERFs, or transphobic, or hate-filled because we don't sit down and shut up. I'm so angry about it all.

Daniel Radcliffe and Eddie Redmayne can duck off, as well. How dare they apologise for J.K.
 
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My first post on this thread, but I've been lurking. I've read J.K Rowling's essay and I am so, so in awe of her.

I'm so sorry to hear that, and I'm really bleeping angry too. Just seeing all the people on twitter saying "don't read it, she doesn't deserve to be heard", and all those who have already decided we are TERFs, or transphobic, or hate-filled because we don't sit down and shut up. I'm so angry about it all.

Daniel Radcliffe and Eddie Redmayne can duck off, as well. How dare they apologise for J.K.
Yay glad to have you here! It's extremely comforting to have this space.
Why do they think they deserve to be heard when they say JKR doesn't deserve to be heard? Unlike them she clearly put time and effort into her essay, and it was extremely compassionate and tactful. Everyone else on my FB seems to be too afraid to get involved one way or the other, except for one guy who liked my posts and private messaged me. He's echoing everything we've been saying here. I truly believe most people feel this way but are too terrified to speak up.
 
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My first post on this thread, but I've been lurking. I've read J.K Rowling's essay and I am so, so in awe of her.

I'm so sorry to hear that, and I'm really bleeping angry too. Just seeing all the people on twitter saying "don't read it, she doesn't deserve to be heard", and all those who have already decided we are TERFs, or transphobic, or hate-filled because we don't sit down and shut up. I'm so angry about it all.

Daniel Radcliffe and Eddie Redmayne can duck off, as well. How dare they apologise for J.K.
I think its disappointing that men are commenting on what is primarily a woman's issue, the discussions being had do not affect men in they way they affect women.

I'm not saying they can't add to the discussion but they have not had the same experiences as women. In the same vein I don't think men should have any say over my reproductive organs and my right to procure an abortion (thank duck I don't live in the States)
 
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Lost another FB friend but gained another friend private messaging me that she also wanted to share support for JK but is too scared.
This is so sad 🙁

I'm from Ireland so in recent years we've had the referendums on both marriage equality and abortions rights. I'm unreservedly pro-gay marriage and pro-choice, but I had quite a few friends on FB who were vocally opposite. I heavily disagreed with their opinions but I didn't put my fingers in my ears and go la la la and unfriend them. I'm confident enough in my beliefs that I can defend them, why can't they?
 
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Lost another FB friend but gained another friend private messaging me that she also wanted to share support for JK but is too scared.
This is so sad 🙁

I'm from Ireland so in recent years we've had the referendums on both marriage equality and abortions rights. I'm unreservedly pro-gay marriage and pro-choice, but I had quite a few friends on FB who were vocally opposite. I heavily disagreed with their opinions but I didn't put my fingers in my ears and go la la la and unfriend them. I'm confident enough in my beliefs that I can defend them, why can't they?
Sending Irish solidarity 😘
 
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