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This makes me bleeping sick. Say whatever they want and they will be unconditionally supported by the woke far left. Where death threats and hate speech is seen as ligit campaigning. It’s not just twitter that is full of these sub humans. Instagram is going the same way.
 
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Twitter themselves admitted to weeding out literally thousands of sock puppet accounts from Russia, China and Turkey designed to pit social groups against each other.


That’s just scraping the surface. Other interest groups are doing the same themselves to push their own agenda. It sounds far-fetched but I actually believe what’s going on is terrifying as we are rapidly losing sense of a structure. And once weakened, we will be ripe for picking off by an authoritarian state - either extreme left or right.

No trans rights or freedoms then.
 
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By the way, I forgot to post this earlier in answer to another comment but Munroe Bergdorf is extremely toxic and has a long history of abusive behaviour
 
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Again, I've found the discussions here really interesting and informative. Same as the JK Rowling thread. I've always felt that a lot of these teens are people with too much time on their hands and what they really need is a dose of reality - working to pay taxes, rent, bills. But then I'm just old!!!

And!!! Are Transvestites still a recognised group? Do people still identify as transvestite? Or do they have an other name now?? Like women do??
I quite agree - I wonder how many trans people there are in societies in developing countries where vast numbers of people live hand to mouth and spend their days just trying to survive. They don't have time on their hands to waste naval gazing and ruminating over which gender they feel like being that day or any other day. Too many youngsters in the developed world are spoilt and pathetic and feel the world owes them something - it doesn't. I'd like to airlift some of these idiots to the middle of nowhere (think Australian bush), drop them off and let them sink or swim. Wonder how precious they'd be about their bloody pronouns then!! The whole bloody lot are ridiculous and so are the parents who indulge this nonsense.
 
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I quite agree - I wonder how many trans people there are in societies in developing countries where vast numbers of people live hand to mouth and spend their days just trying to survive. They don't have time on their hands to waste naval gazing and ruminating over which gender they feel like being that day or any other day. Too many youngsters in the developed world are spoilt and pathetic and feel the world owes them something - it doesn't. I'd like to airlift some of these idiots to the middle of nowhere (think Australian bush), drop them off and let them sink or swim. Wonder how precious they'd be about their bloody pronouns then!! The whole bloody lot are ridiculous and so are the parents who indulge this nonsense.
I think a lot of us were idealistic as teens and open to all kinds of ideologies as we grew and found our feet. The difference being, my generation (late 30s) didn’t have a world of views at our fingertips 24/7, and big business with an active interest in pushing certain views and destabilising countries. We could cut ourselves off and just live without having to prove our alliance to anything. Now everything is about belonging to an identity, likes and follows. Narcissism mixed with social justice = conflict.
 
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I think a lot of us were idealistic as teens and open to all kinds of ideologies as we grew and found our feet. The difference being, my generation (late 30s) didn’t have a world of views at our fingertips 24/7, and big business with an active interest in pushing certain views and destabilising countries. We could cut ourselves off and just live without having to prove our alliance to anything. Now everything is about belonging to an identity, likes and follows. Narcissism mixed with social justice = conflict.
Absolutely.
 
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Like her or not these messages sent to Posie Parker are deranged and unwarranted, what the duck.

Wow. That really has summed it up for me, that there is an exceptionally small fraction of 'trans' people (who I imagine aren't actually trans, they're vile misogynistic pricks) who are just masquerading under the guise of being trans in order to spread hatred and division. The author of that Whatsapp message sounds deeply unwell. It's all so sad and frustrating for actual trans people who 99% of the time are absolutely harmless! This is two very separate issues IMO.
 
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I think a lot of us were idealistic as teens and open to all kinds of ideologies as we grew and found our feet. The difference being, my generation (late 30s) didn’t have a world of views at our fingertips 24/7, and big business with an active interest in pushing certain views and destabilising countries. We could cut ourselves off and just live without having to prove our alliance to anything. Now everything is about belonging to an identity, likes and follows. Narcissism mixed with social justice = conflict.
Yes, I agree. I grew up in the 70s and 80s and back then the only thing I really felt any pressure about was whether I liked the same pop groups as the cool kids so that I could feel included and not left out. However, pretending to like a particular pop group to fit in with others did me no harm or lasting damage, whereas I strongly believe that all this gender stuff is deeply harmful to developing minds and bodies. I am sure that in years to come this subject and period of time will be viewed as scandalous, much as we view it as scandalous that the Victorians displayed mental patients like zoo animals. We have organisations and people in power who are supposed to protect children from harm and I feel they are failing the current generation of children and young people by allowing organisations like Mermaids to flourish.
 
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On a middle aged woman’s interiors account ffs. INTERIORS ACCOUNT.
must.prove.wokeness.at.all.times

Sorry, I know that’s lighthearted and insignificant really amongst the Posey threats. It’s horrifying that this stuff is allowed to happen and nothing gets done, meanwhile Posey was investigated by police for #wrongthink. The world is dangerously mad
 

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That really has summed it up for me, that there is an exceptionally small fraction of 'trans' people (who I imagine aren't actually trans, they're vile misogynistic pricks) who are just masquerading under the guise of being trans in order to spread hatred and division.
You know, I have a slight problem with the idea that violent, aggressive and misogynistic trans people “aren’t really trans”. They SAY they are trans, therefore they are trans. Take them at their word.

To deny that they are trans is to deny the truth: that it’s possible to be both trans and dangerous misogynists, and a significant proportion of trans people (well, I mean trans women specifically) are like that.

I think this is a problem with the Left generally: the belief that you shouldn’t criticise a marginalised group, and any bad apples must be cast aside from that group before you can criticise them.

This might be a controversial comparison to make, but whenever Islamic extremists murder innocent people, the response is always “they aren’t true Muslims”. Except... they are Muslims because they say they are (albeit violent, radicalised ones). I don’t see the problem with acknowledging that.
 
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You know, I have a slight problem with the idea that violent, aggressive and misogynistic trans people “aren’t really trans”. They SAY they are trans, therefore they are trans. Take them at their word.

To deny that they are trans is to deny the truth: that it’s possible to be both trans and dangerous misogynists, and a significant proportion of trans people (well, I mean trans women specifically) are like that.

I think this is a problem with the Left generally: the belief that you shouldn’t criticise a marginalised group, and any bad apples must be cast aside from that group before you can criticise them.

This might be a controversial comparison to make, but whenever Islamic extremists murder innocent people, the response is always “they aren’t true Muslims”. Except... they are Muslims because they say they are (albeit violent, radicalised ones). I don’t see the problem with acknowledging that.
Interesting point, I know what you mean. I suppose I was trying to say that they are tarring all trans people with the extremist brush, in much the same way the extremist Muslims have for peaceful Muslims. But yes, I guess it is possible to identify as trans and also be a raving bleeping maniac hole.

Edited to add: And it's possibly also quite patronising of me to assume on their behalf that they're not trans, as though trans people need me to defend them. Classic lefty Guardian move 🥴
 
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You know, I have a slight problem with the idea that violent, aggressive and misogynistic trans people “aren’t really trans”. They SAY they are trans, therefore they are trans. Take them at their word.

To deny that they are trans is to deny the truth: that it’s possible to be both trans and dangerous misogynists, and a significant proportion of trans people (well, I mean trans women specifically) are like that.

I think this is a problem with the Left generally: the belief that you shouldn’t criticise a marginalised group, and any bad apples must be cast aside from that group before you can criticise them.

This might be a controversial comparison to make, but whenever Islamic extremists murder innocent people, the response is always “they aren’t true Muslims”. Except... they are Muslims because they say they are (albeit violent, radicalised ones). I don’t see the problem with acknowledging that.
I agree with what you're saying but I think when people are doubtful of someone being trans, it's because we're looking at it in the old style definition of trans, I.e transsexual. The new definition of trans can and does mean anything. A man in a dress can say he's trans and a trans women. When in reality, he's a cross dresser


This is well worth a read. Trans activists going after a 78 year old woman
 
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By the way, I forgot to post this earlier in answer to another comment but Munroe Bergdorf is extremely toxic and has a long history of abusive behaviour
I wasn't aware of that! I watched her channel 4 documentary a few years back about her facial feminisation surgery and she genuinely seemed like she had GD, so I was very sympathetic. Such a shame she seems to be no better than the rest.
 
I am about done with Reddit. The GCMen sub is still going which quite frankly says it all, men can say and think what they want but women must tow the line or be silenced. There’s also a list going round of subs that TRA’s want to try and get banned, not because they are ‘terf’ subs but because they were more often than not created by a so called ‘terf’ or have been shared in the gc subreddit.

The thing about this is this goes way beyond ‘shutting down terfs’ they are now shutting down the voices of all women. I’ll include a screenshot, but Most of those subs have nothing to do with the trans agenda and are useful resources for all women, not just the ‘terf’ ones. Loveafterporn in particular was one that helped many women deal with porn addiction in their relationships, and yet they want it shut down???? For what reason exactly? It is so blatant, it has really put me off using Reddit even though I mainly used it to read about video games and wrestling. I just feel like as a woman I am not welcome there unless I indulge in double think and accept men into female spaces.
 

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This man is a GP!
He really really hates women and the GMC don’t seem to give a tit.

The NMC are really harsh with nurses’ use of social media but the GMC doesn’t seem to give a tit what doctors do. Or certain doctors anyway. 😡


This is well worth a read. Trans activists going after a 78 year old woman
Interesting. Further to that Glinner post re Damian Barr & Baroness Nicholson, this has just appeared on my Insta stories timeline... Mr Barr isn’t quite what he seems.
 

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I’m not on Twitter because I absolutely hate it for its woke agenda and fake account tit stirring, but does anyone know the proportion of men to women “correcting” JKR on her tweet? I’ve only head of Daniel Ratcliffe and Stephen King who are both obviously men.
 
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I’m not on Twitter because I absolutely hate it for its woke agenda and fake account tit stirring, but does anyone know the proportion of men to women “correcting” JKR on her tweet? I’ve only head of Daniel Ratcliffe and Stephen King who are both obviously men.
I do believe Emma Watson too but she’ll jump on any bandwagon.
 
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