Gender Discussions #2

[Zenchick101]

Actually not surprised, they're keen on traditional gender roles.

Study finds transgender people more politically conservative than straight men

Study finds transgender people more politically conservative than straight men | The College Fix

‘Trans men and women have a different relationship with liberalism.’…

www.thecollegefix.com

really? that's actually shocking

 

[thegirlscout]

Without Greer, Dvorkin, Butler and the many women who came before now in Feminist academia there wouldn’t be a discipline. It’s pretty sad if departments don’t teach anything at all about feminist theory as it evolved over time. Do I agree with everything Greer says? No. But a degree in women’s studies/gender studies that didn’t teach her work wouldn’t be worth the paper it’s printed on.

They would more than likely talk about the history of feminism but like @Pundertaker says due to the very nature of the course it is always evolving so what you would be learning about is women’s studies from a 2020 viewpoint. There may be courses about the history of feminism that may be more your thing? If you’re looking at doing a MA and not a MSt, the university of York does a degree called ‘women’s studies’, I’m sure other places have degrees with similar names.

 

[thegirlscout]

Fair Cop at it again, this time tweeting a picture of a burning M. Tomorrow apparently....

What do they mean in their bio ‘dedicated to upholding articles 8-11 ECHR’?

 

[melfish]

Stuff like this is just ‘distinguished guests’ is this for real? Also ‘guys’ is pretty gender neutral to me I mean if I’m talking to a group of female friends I might say “hey guys” to address them without really thinking, it’s a bit like ‘dude’ these days.
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I don't see why this is a big deal. Also the word "lady" should have been long since banished to the bowels of hell

On a different note, am I the only one who finds it appalling when bisexual men/other MSM trick women into relationships with them by concealing this part of their sexuality? I don’t mean cheating, I mean past experiences.

Then when the women find out, the women get accused of all kinds of terrible things, like homo- and bi-phobia, judgemental, narrow minded. They also get attacked into examining their “prejudices” and gaslit into contorting their sexuality to accept their partner, even though they never consented to being with a MSM.

The man who concealed his sexuality is portrayed fully as a victim.

To me it’s typical male entitlement to sex, men’s feelings coming before women’s needs, and women’s consent being seen as a problem and our boundaries stomped.

You don’t have to have sex with MSM to prove you are not phobic.

(MSM = Men who have Sex with Men).

Why is it my business who my partner has slept with in the past? Tell me, don't tell me. Either way I wouldn't care. It doesn't bother me in the slightest if an ex has slept with men

There's dogma on both sides of the fence. It's like people have lost the ability to think fluidly. Or they're just scared to

 

[rosemarina]

Must be Mermaids?

 

[melfish]

It’s a big deal because you’re about to sleep with them too. Your sexual partner’s history is very much your business. (And if you know anything about sexual health, you’ll know that sleeping with bisexual men is very risky). It’s important to many women and just because you don’t mind, doesn’t mean you are “right” and everyone else should change their sexuality to match yours. It’s absolutely fine that you’re personally not bothered; your body, your choice. It’s not a choice if you’re not told though.

I would never consent to sleeping with a bisexual man. That is not dogma, that is my inalienable right to say no.

Thanks for the sexual health lecture

Also, please point to the part where I suggested anyone else should change their sexuality to match mine. I don't even know what you are on about, but your aggressive tone blows

 

[barmj]

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Wow, she’s huge! I looked her up and read this so I think the picture is slightly misleading. Like, when I saw it, I thought it was a bio man being a total weirdo who claimed to be an 18 year old girl but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I think the only issue I have is her height, it gives her team an unfair advantage, right?

Munroe Bergdorf is a racist prick.

I don’t know much about her. Are you saying she’s racist because she said white privilege is real?

 

[Zenchick101]

To me it makes perfect sense. They are all heavily into gender stereotypes, as already mentioned.

I get that, however been looking into their thoughts on it and at least in the US they don't believe in the basic concept of transgenderism.

 

[Vee6]

Ridiculous

 

[Zenchick101]

And the Times, I've heard.

is the Times a right wing paper? or is that a sign in general.

 

[Shaza96]

No, that does not. If a man says he's not a women then of course you'd believe him, and of course you aren't transphobic for it. But if a MTF says she's a women and you say you're a man, then you are transphobic. It's not hard.

 

[Hillbilly love puff]

Truly terrifying. Sometimes my thumbs are clumbsy and I like or dislike posts on SM without realising. Worrying to think people might jump to a conclusion based on that alone.

I know how you feel. Constantly (virtually) looking over your shoulder for the next attack.

 

[Bitofthebubbly]

I am watching ‘First Day’ on bbc iplayer, a kids drama about a transgender girl enrolling in high school. I am not sure what to expect but I figured I’d watch before my kids stumble across it.

 

[Zenchick101]

Well, it isn't just Trump. It's about the judges he appoints, and there are plenty of down-ticket GOP. I have some research ahead of me. Free speech is becoming the most important issue for me, mostly because I just assumed it was America's oxygen before and I wouldn't need to think about it.

what's that?

 

[Boz]

Has r/gendercriticalguys been banned? I just tried to go on and couldn't!

 

[Pundertaker]

Really? the whole point of a WS course is 'that it questions what it is to be a woman'? I'd argue it's a bit more complex than that. Any good course should teach you to read widely, and engage with ideas even if they're not 'current' or as 'evolved' as your own.

Below, two course descriptions from courses mentioned in this thread:

Oxford University MSt

York MA

You studied WS? When you graduated, had you figured out 'what it is to be a woman'?

You're being very reductive and making a lot of assumptions here, so I'm just going to let my other posts stand.

 

[Moley1]

@Shaza96 How do you define a woman?
What is it that makes women 'women' and not men?

The number of shoes in the closet?