What was the original post and what was the original response to the tweet that has since been deleted?
I couldn't stop thinking about this clip last night. This morning I figured out why. This really, really reminds me of when I briefly stayed with a born-again Christian family in the US when I was a teen (on an exchange programme). It quickly became apparent after I arrived that my life would be much more fun there if I just went along with it all and pretended to be a believer - otherwise they would have tried to convert me.
The only people who are falling over themselves to forgive them are other men, of course.
I think Arty Morty has made some comparisons wth Scientology and he's not really wrong. Anyone not supportive of trans ideology is basically seen like a Suppressive Person, you must either avoid them or attack them. The belief that the drugs and surgeries, once completed will give you happiness and you can be your true self is not unlike Scientology's Bridge and their belief in going clear and getting rid of body thetans. And when people start having doubts because they spent all this £££ and they feel they aren't having the positives they thought they'd be getting, they are told that they just need to go further up the bridge. Similarly, had top surgery but now feel bad? Well maybe it's because you need bottom surgery. Once you have bottom surgery you'll feel great etc etc.
Straight away though this was a man (with moobs) from the face, legs, height, jaw and adams apple. Then add the voice...
Never too early!
Might be paraphrasing a bit, but:
It's all so ridiculous. Instead of obsessing over someone not finding them attractive surely they'd be better off finding someone who *does*- like, if you're not someones type, why would you want to be with them!This makes no sense as an analogy either…ok, some people don’t find fat people attractive. So what happens if you’re a fat person on a dating app and you don’t show your body and only post photos at flattering angles where your face looks thinner. Then you match with someone who doesn’t find fat people attractive, and you arrange to meet. Ultimately, it’s very likely the other person here is going to decide they’re not attracted to you regardless and either have one date, or politely make an excuse and leave. Nobody says that this is so unacceptable that people MUST include fat/old/whatever else people in their dating pool. I’m sure it’s not a pleasant experience, equally I don’t doubt it’s unpleasant if this happens to trans people, or old people…but you’re not entitled to be found attractive by anyone
I don't see an issue with challenging being referred to as Cis, if we are to respect someones pronouns then our wish to not be referred to as CisFemale should be respected too. Can you imagine someone tying themselves into knots trying to argue against you!!Has anyone ever challenged being called cisgender? As I’ve said before, I’m in a small, fairly conservative town and ‘woke’ is just a past tense verb here. My friends and I are in our thirties, working full time and have children so do not have many conversations around gender musings and pronouns.
Work however, is another matter. I have material on my uni course saying things like: ‘Mary is 12, she identifies as female’. You can’t identify as female, you are or you are not. I changed it to ‘Mary is a 12 year old girl’ in my text as I refused to go along with it. I have clearly male and female lecturers with he/him or she/her after their names, like we don’t know they’re men and women.
Anyway, I have heard women on my course (and me!) being addressed as cisgender and I want to say- so what exactly makes one a woman if you take away her sex? The clothes? Long hair? Love of drinking Prosecco?! My dad and I were discussing the Maya F case yesterday and he said, ‘You can change gender but not sex.’ I thought, WHAT ARE YOU CHANGING FROM AND TO?! Literally just using age old stereotypes of what is seen as being a man or a woman. Show me a young transwoman who wears their hair short, baggy old clothes from M&S, no make up, leaves their body hair to grow.
Sorry, that turned into a rant but how can you politely challenge it in a professional situation when someone is calling you cisgender? I’m not CG. I am a woman as a whole, I’m not two combined parts of ‘bio woman with breasts and a womb’ and ‘stereotype of a woman’- I am womaaaaaaaaan
A lot of people will just see the headline of 'transphobic and homophobic tweets' and assume she must have done someone absolutely awful without looking deeper into it. If it gains a lot of media traction then I'm sure we'll see people telling everyone 'don't read the articles, it will upset you too much' the same way they did with JK's letter.
Totally agree it makes no sense. I don't get why when a middle aged married man comes out as gay, no one expects him to stay with his wife, but if a woman's husband turns out to be a "woman" then she's supposed to put up and shut up?
I've seen Johann Lamont supporting her, as well as a few other Labour women. They're brave to stick their heads above the parapet. I don't want to mention it on my twitter because you never know who is out to get you or report you to your employer etc. It shouldn't be this way.
he was for women’s liberation.
Great to hear this is getting coverage. That Jess de Wahls, a lesbian who grew up in East Germany has become an enemy of the left/the woke is so telling. Purity spirals here we come.The Jess DeWahls row is still ongoing. The RAA have been bombarded with comments ,similar to those we had here, about how problematic some of their other artists are. And there is an article in the Times about them potentially breaching the equality act
I have linked it but it is behind a paywall
Royal Academy accused of breaking equality laws in Jess de Wahls dispute
The equality watchdog has been urged to investigate whether the Royal Academy of Arts discriminated against an artist because of her opinions about transgenderwww.thetimes.co.uk
The ‘be kind’ mantra reminds me of the ‘women support women’ mantra that is always trotted out when a female says anything against another female. Yes of course I support women, so much that if I see them doing something positively detrimental to their health, work, etc etc I will raise it. It isn’t carte blanche to act like a moron.
I get that you can explore your sexuality and that should happen but I don’t think porn is the way to do it. I’ve seen porn and the majority of it is women being choked, women being stuffed like a turkey with a bazillon dicks, very painful positions and some of it doesn’t look like it could be consensual. Porn needs to be so heavily regulated. There’s a category now which is ‘female friendly’ and from what I’ve seen it’s basically treating women with a bit of respect and not a rag doll - that’s a category, not the norm!
Yeah I've no issue with her or anyone having botox, if that's what makes her happy, go for it. What I didn't like was her trying to frame getting botox as an empowering feminist thing, all because she wanted to get it and wanted to put a feminist spin on it. Feminism has nothing to do with bikini waxes or botox or any of the shite she spouts
