Gender Discussion #64

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Do Himdia and co ever post anything, ā€œinterestingā€ or ā€positiveā€ on other topics? Plus the TRA are the ones that threaten actual violence and harm.
Exactly what I was thinking.
And none of them have the output that JKR has, in terms of work, either!
 
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I wonder what will happen in the future if hormonal drugs are no longer available for young trans people šŸ¤”

That might seem unlikely now but the world could dramatically change. If there was a world war or some other sort of disaster. The pharmaceutical companies could go out of business. When you're young you don't think this will happen but business conglomerates come and go, they can be world dominating one minute and then go out of business.

I always wonder about these celebrities who have teeth veneers. They are relying on the the fact that they are rich and young but that might change by the time they're 50 and the veneers fall out. What happens if they've gone broke by then and can't afford the upkeep?

People who transition when they're young are signing up for a lifetime of taking daily medication. Their lifestyle is completely tied in with that continuing and there are no guarantees in life.
Very good point! If the NHS collapses one day then UK 'trans' patients will be looking at high insurance premiums for the lifelong upkeep for a condition they have brought upon themselves. I don't know what American 'trans' currently pay for hormones etc
The transgender person (mtf) i know has just posted pictures from his night out with a group of ladies. All the women in the pictures look lovely and are dressed really nice, then thereā€™s this lad who looks like a blow up sex doll trying to be the main character in all the pictures. Thereā€™s one picture in particular where all the women are just smiling and heā€™s there in the middle grabbing his fake breasts. If that doesnā€™t say everything then i donā€™t know what does.
Willing to bet he has a porn addiction. It's the route of a lot of this trans ideology.
 
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BIB when I first was on the side of the TRAs so around 2016ish they were saying TWAW/TMAM but also thereā€™s a difference between sex and gender so sort of acknowledging that trans women were born male and commonly using AMAB/AFAB but now from what I see they seem to have veered very much away from that thinking and TW seem to be increasingly saying theyā€™re female. (Not helped by GRCs eg Himdia having a passport that says heā€™s female when itā€™s literally impossible).

So yeah if I wasnā€™t a massive TERF now and still on their side but said something along the lines of the 2016 era way of thinking they would probably pile on me. AMAB/AFAB seems to be more used to be āœØinclusiveāœØ and save listing out people (eg cis women, trans men and non-binary people when you can use AFAB and not risk excluding anyone - oh man if only the English language had a word to use for people born female wouldnā€™t that be so useful!!!) rather than what it was used for back then.

(I donā€™t know if this makes sense, Iā€™m a bit sleep deprived from Baby Parsley).
Yep, the way that the movement has pivoted repeatedly is quite ridiculous really. I was also team trans back in the early 2010s when I was at university - I thought I was non binary and bought into all of it, was even on the council of the uni LGBT society. We had a meeting called by a pair of textbook TRA girls (non binary but basically just teenagers with pink hair and piercings) who were extraordinarily offended that the society was "LGBT+" because that reduced non binary people to a symbol and meant they weren't important. They insisted that non binary had nothing to do with trans (which was strictly binary) and their evidence was a tumblr post which mostly referred to two-spirit ideas, which is native American (they were both white girls at a university in the midlands). They were handled with kid gloves by the council at the time because everyone tiptoed around trying to never offend anybody, but they didn't get their movement passed.

Now, non binary is considered part of the "trans umbrella" and I'm sure if those two girls haven't yet peaked, they'll have completely changed their tune to fit in with the latest gender woowoo. Thank god I realised it was all a load of bollocks because even remembering this is exhausting lol
 
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Can you wonder people are transphobic with nasty violent men like this threatening anyone who wonā€™t go along with their delusion. Looks like a man and with male aggression. Does he seriously expect to be welcome in female only spaces?
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Surely anyone is entitled to be attracted, or not attracted to whoever they please. Attraction isnā€™t going to be inclusive, ever, or else everyone would be attracted to everyone else. Are these idiots going to judge other men for having a type. TIM do not look like women, why on earth is a lesbian going to be attracted to one?
 
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Itā€™s all about them not getting a shag. Always. They tried to beg women into it, they tried to turn lesbians through threatened force and now they insist that if you donā€™t agree to sex you are transphobic.

These porn addled morons need to understand they donā€™t pass as anything but goblins, they arenā€™t attractive and even if they transformed their entire bodies to be indistinguishable from a beautiful woman (which is impossible) they would still never be attractive to women because of their horrible, hideous, heinous personalities.

ā€˜Be kindā€™ has increasingly deluded all these men into thinking they are attractive, and as entitled delusional men do, they then think all women owe them attention and ultimately sex.

I understand the fawn response in real life, but on godā€™s anonymous internet, why are so many women falling over themselves to affirm these losers and ultimately putting other women in danger. I donā€™t get it.
 
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this is tragic. Children with gender confusion deserve proper, independent psychiatric care rather than ā€œaffirmationā€ especially when clearly thereā€™s other tit going on
 
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I fail to understand the hatred towards the Cass report. All sheā€™s saying is that the current menthol isnā€™t working and has poor outcomes and gender confused children deserve better care #donoharm

why are TRAs (particularly who donā€™t have kids themselves and didnā€™t transition as children!) so determined to sterilise children?!
 
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I fail to understand the hatred towards the Cass report. All sheā€™s saying is that the current menthol isnā€™t working and has poor outcomes and gender confused children deserve better care #donoharm

why are TRAs (particularly who donā€™t have kids themselves and didnā€™t transition as children!) so determined to sterilise children?!
Because if trans children are real then the whole thing is real and must be accommodated. I'm so fed up of it now. I thought Cass would bring an end to it but it's taking forever and I don't know if much is going to change really.
 
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I fail to understand the hatred towards the Cass report. All sheā€™s saying is that the current menthol isnā€™t working and has poor outcomes and gender confused children deserve better care #donoharm

why are TRAs (particularly who donā€™t have kids themselves and didnā€™t transition as children!) so determined to sterilise children?!
The visceral, knee-jerk tantrums are because theyā€™ve got NOTHING to come back with. This is the whole reason for #nodebate, because you canā€™t have a debate when one side is presenting their argument on a robust, factually grounded basis and the other side is presenting an entirely self-interested perspective based on paraphilia, mental disorder, and social contagion.

Facts are the enemy. And who cares if children are irreversibly damaged so long as a load of middle-aged blokes get to live out their misogynistic fantasies? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
 
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The visceral, knee-jerk tantrums are because theyā€™ve got NOTHING to come back with. This is the whole reason for #nodebate, because you canā€™t have a debate when one side is presenting their argument on a robust, factually grounded basis and the other side is presenting an entirely self-interested perspective based on paraphilia, mental disorder, and social contagion.

Facts are the enemy. And who cares if children are irreversibly damaged so long as a load of middle-aged blokes get to live out their misogynistic fantasies? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø
The refusal of the adult clinics to cooperate proves imo that any longterm results of transition are not what the TRAs claim
 
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