Gender Discussion #54

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That’s Charlotte Clymer. You’d think he was far too busy and successful (he’s got very far in life playing the trans card, like so many trans identified white men) to be crying over toilets.

It’s him in this iconic image

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You can just HEAR the mansplaining.
 
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To be fair, younger teenagers can look quite androgynous. In this case, the victim seems to have been dressed as overly 'girly' (I'm deliberately not using 'feminine'). Casual passers-by, not realising that what they were seeing would become important, probably wouldn't have given the victim a second thought - except in this case to observe that they were not dressed appropriately for a walk in the park
From what I saw of Brianna’s SM, it was all tiny little miniskirts and anime inspired clothing. Most people would assume he was female from a distance.
 
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I find the police reporting on trans kids particularly problematic. There have been a couple of instances from our local force on their social media where we’ve been asked to look out for *girlname* who has gone missing and the picture is of an obvious lad. I don’t see how this can’t cause significant delay in finding these kids when you’re asking the general public to disregard they can see versus what they’ve been told.
 
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I don't want to know the answer and I wouldn't post this on the BG trial thread, but I wonder what name is on his headstone or crematorium plaque?Difficult decision for his parents
 
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The other thing that’s occurred to me the last day or two is the collective anger online that the teens have their anonymity during the trial. Which I think is absolutely right for minors no matter the severity of the alleged crimes. It’s actually probably more important the more severe the crime is. This seems a clear cut case but it might not always be.

But when it’s a man on trial for sexual assault or grape e.g. Kevin Spacey, there is collective anger online that the adult men don’t get anonymity and the names shouldn’t be known until found guilty because otherwise their lives are ruined. I think you only see it said with grape/SA trials.

So grown men deserve even more protection in the courts than minors.
 
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I just had a little browse on X. They are all hyper excited to FINALLY have a symbol of their oppression and literal violence against them, so much it's now distracting from the horror and severity of the situation itself.
 
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I don't want to know the answer and I wouldn't post this on the BG trial thread, but I wonder what name is on his headstone or crematorium plaque?Difficult decision for his parents
I don't know the laws on this but I'm sure if Brianna's parents were allowed they'd have the name Brianna wanted on there. They were supportive.
 
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I know it’s the Daily Wire but this trailer did make me chuckle.



Refreshing to see a film take the absolute piss out of something which should have the piss ripped out of it.
 
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I just had a little browse on X. They are all hyper excited to FINALLY have a symbol of their oppression and literal violence against them, so much it's now distracting from the horror and severity of the situation itself.
It's an incredibly tragic and painful situation as it is; a very troubled, unhappy child being murdered in a horrific way by two dangerously unstable kids, seemingly out of pure bad luck that it was Brianna and not one of the other potential victims they'd earmarked. Using that as a "gotcha" or to score cheap points is not at all respectful or appropriate
 
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It's an incredibly tragic and painful situation as it is; a very troubled, unhappy child being murdered in a horrific way by two dangerously unstable kids, seemingly out of pure bad luck that it was Brianna and not one of the other potential victims they'd earmarked. Using that as a "gotcha" or to score cheap points is not at all respectful or appropriate
I couldn’t agree more
 
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Talk about a picture speaking a thousand words.

I'm a tall woman and I often note in photos that I have a big melon head. I also have quite big hands and feet. But I'd look an elegant wallflower next to this dude.
It winds me up when they compare tall women to these bleeping men. I know women over 6ft tall and I'm not scared of them any more than any other woman of any height. They're not comparable in strength to a man.
 
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It's an incredibly tragic and painful situation as it is; a very troubled, unhappy child being murdered in a horrific way by two dangerously unstable kids, seemingly out of pure bad luck that it was Brianna and not one of the other potential victims they'd earmarked. Using that as a "gotcha" or to score cheap points is not at all respectful or appropriate
It's abhorrent to use anyone's death to further your one agenda. It reminds me of Lee Rugby's death being latched upon by the far right despite his family's repeated requests for privacy and respect.
 
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Anyone watch the Kae Tempest prog on Bbc2 just now? Essentially stated how they loved football as a kid reached puberty, looked round and saw other girls and didn't feel the same as them "because I didn't like boys and the same stuff as them" , and so eventually she became a he. At one point Kae stated there had been struggles with homophobia and "internalised...." but didn't end the sentence, I was screaming at the telly "INTERNALISED MISOGYNY? INTERNALISED HOMOPHOBIA?" Kae also said 'I'm on a journey to accepting who I am' (apart from the biology reality of their physical self it seems)
 
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There was a report on the BBC from a male gay cyclist, upset that trans women cyclists were unable to compete against women.
Apparently its discriminatory because there is no evidence to suggest any differences in performance between a trans woman cyclist and a woman born as a woman! What planet does this man live on?

I wonder how he would do if he competed in a womans race? Would this be fair? As, seeing as defining yourself as trans only needs self Identification, he has exactly the same advantages or disadvantages. as a trans woman cyclist might have.

I hope someone challenges him to race in a womans race to prove that there is absolutely no difference between natal male and natal women cyclists
 
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