Gender Discussion #54

[Metropolis]

Wtf?! Just seen this about a female boxer who found out shortly before a match that she was to fight a TIM. After she withdrew because she was scared of getting hurt, her opponent was declared the winner.
'Women shouldn't have to bear the physical and psychological risks brought by a man's decisions regarding his personal life and identity,' Bissonnette told Reduxx. 'There should be two categories: biological male and female.' She also cited a study by the University of Utah which found that men can punch 163 per cent harder than women.
It takes a special kind of hole to ‘identify’ as a woman to legitimise beating up biological females. How can anyone think this is right? Canada is succeeding in subjugating women.

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...draws-trans-opponent.html?ico=related-replace

 

[Blond3g1rl]

The comments are good

 

[HoGi]

The comments are good

Me dishing out likes to the replies

 

[gimm3more]

The comments are good

genuinely the only one I can think of is that poor TIM school kid who was murdered in a park earlier this year (was it this year?) initials BG. But other than that there are none….

 

[Piff paff puff]

genuinely the only one I can think of is that poor TIM school kid who was murdered in a park earlier this year (was it this year?) initials BG. But other than that there are none….

Why can't someone present them with real evidence? Must be easy to prove no one's killing them

 

[ThisIsMyGuiltyPleasure]

genuinely the only one I can think of is that poor TIM school kid who was murdered in a park earlier this year (was it this year?) initials BG. But other than that there are none….

Someone said in the replies that that murder wasn't due to gender identity either, it was some other reason. Still a tragedy that a young person was murdered but it's wrong to use their death as some sort of trans rights propaganda.

 

[gimm3more]

Someone said in the replies that that murder wasn't due to gender identity either, it was some other reason. Still a tragedy that a young person was murdered but it's wrong to use their death as some sort of trans rights propaganda.

That isn’t true, it’s just that the details of the motive haven’t been published yet. But it was two other kids of a similar age, likely known to the victim. If it wasn’t a hate crime (which most likely is tbf) it was definitely bullying or something like that. Kid didn’t deserve it regardless ! But yeh motive must be established first.

 

[MaineCoonMama]

There was a murder of a trans person in Melbourne many years ago (late 1970s.) Adele Bailey was also a sex worker, it's widely thought that Adele was killed by a serving VicPol officer (Dennis Tanner) who was also thought to have killed his own sister-in-law as well.
There are two other cases I can think of but they are both American- Brandon Teena and Gwen Araujo. Compare that to women being killed or children/babies being murdered and it just doesn't make sense.
One life is not worth less or more than another but there is no comparison if we are going to talk numbers.

 

[Peachsquish]

Just seen

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...ation-rivals-refused-compete-against-her.html

 

[weeweegie]

Just seen

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...ation-rivals-refused-compete-against-her.html

Why can’t they just piss off and leave women to play football? Let them have this one bloody thing. Without great big brutes like this guy muscling in. Don’t tell me women can’t be on the bigger side. They can. Of course they can. Are they still all physically weaker than this flabby unit of a male? Yes. Can you imagine if all the TIMs wanted to play women’s professional football? What would people say then? Would they be so wilfully ignorant?

 

[IndominusRex]

genuinely the only one I can think of is that poor TIM school kid who was murdered in a park earlier this year (was it this year?) initials BG. But other than that there are none….

yes Breanna was first since 2019 in the uk:

Andrea Waddel, 29, killed by a punter (sex buyer), Neil McMillan, in Brighton in October 2009
Destiny Lauren, 29, killed by a punter (sex buyer) Leon Fyle, in London in November 2009
David/Sonia Burgess, 63, killed by Senthooran (Nina) Kanagasingham, a trans friend/associate (male who identified as trans at the time), in London in October 2010
Lionel/Suzie Morl, 49, referred to in the press as a transvestite, who was killed by a couple with drug problems and who appear to have been exploiting him: David Hardman, 51, and Tracey Hurrell, 32, in Manchester in July or August 2011. Note the age difference between this couple, which is often (not always) an indicator of an abusive relationship
Chrissie Azzopardi, 22, who was killed by a neighbour, Romy Maynard, possibly over drug debts, in London in April 2012
Vanessa Santillan, 33, who was killed by husband Joaquin Hernandez in London in March 2015
William Lound, 30, a gay man who occasionally wore clothes that have been described as women’s clothes, was killed by Lee Arnold. Arnold killed Lound after the two had had sex, in Salford in August 2016. The murder of William Lound has been described both as a homophobic murder and an anti-trans one
Naomi Hersi, 36, who was killed by punter (sex buyer) Jesse McDonald after a drugs and sex hook-up in London in March 2018
Amy Griffiths, 51, was killed by Martin Saberi, in Worcestershire on 11 January 2019. The two have been described as friends.
Brianna Ghey, 16, stabbed to death by a boy and girl (both 15) in February 2023.

 

[DoraMaar]

Wikipedia today ...

 

[MaineCoonMama]

Why can’t they just piss off and leave women to play football? Let them have this one bloody thing. Without great big brutes like this guy muscling in. Don’t tell me women can’t be on the bigger side. They can. Of course they can. Are they still all physically weaker than this flabby unit of a male? Yes. Can you imagine if all the TIMs wanted to play women’s professional football? What would people say then? Would they be so wilfully ignorant?

One quote that stood out to me was "The players haven't chosen to play in a mixed sex team". If it's that important for Ol' Bruiser to play, why not chose a mixed team if that's an obviously available option?
Misogynistic wick.

 

[Metropolis]

My son just sent me this from his uni . What a load of balls -“claiming our place on earth” indeed! Are we supposed to hold them in esteem as some sort of supernatural beings now?

 

[IdeletedbutI'mbackagain]

My son just sent me this from his uni . What a load of balls -“claiming our place on earth” indeed! Are we supposed to hold them in esteem as some sort of supernatural beings now?
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This.... just really comes across as extremely unbalanced....

They realise that being trans does not exempt you from the reality of life?? We all live and die and sometimes tragedies occur but that is life. We cannot identify ourselves out of it.

 

[Venom]

on this trans day of remembrance, I'd like the remember that there are in fact only 2 genders

 

[ThisIsMyGuiltyPleasure]

That isn’t true, it’s just that the details of the motive haven’t been published yet. But it was two other kids of a similar age, likely known to the victim. If it wasn’t a hate crime (which most likely is tbf) it was definitely bullying or something like that. Kid didn’t deserve it regardless ! But yeh motive must be established first.

So the point still stands then, if motive has not been announced then the trans activists shouldn't be using this teens death for publicity. It's so wrong, a child has been murdered by other kids.
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My son just sent me this from his uni . What a load of balls -“claiming our place on earth” indeed! Are we supposed to hold them in esteem as some sort of supernatural beings now?
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I genuinely don't know wtf that is supposed to mean but it's so overdramatic.

 

[SkippyDoo]

The UK is extremely safe for trans people. To the point that, for example, between 2008 and 2017, there were more trans murderers (12) than trans murder victims (9) in the UK. None of those 9 deaths were treated as hate crimes.

Source: https://unherd.com/2022/01/the-truth-about-trans-murders/

There’s no evidence of an upturn in murders of trans people since 2017, either.

This is good news — trans people are not the subject of an epidemic of violence here. I’m glad to hear it.

I suggest violence against women by men needs more “days” and “awareness” given the numbers involved.

 

[Copacapybara]

I've always felt they are a bit "off." I see a lot of people who normally criticise celebrities with much younger partners as exploitative, but then defend him having a wife 14 years younger because "she was an adult who already had a child and she did all the chasing etc. etc." And now fall all over him for having a "non-binary" 10-year-old and flashing his pronoun pins while his wife they/thems the child all over her Insta like he's a fashion accessory

She pops up on that which was once Twitter fairly often, arguing with anyone who makes any comments vaguely critical of Tennant.

 

[PryingPenny]

Oh noooo, please let me still be allowed to enjoy Staged

I find it so weird for celebrity parents to be publicly talking about their kids' gender or sexuality. They are children, you shouldn't be talking about things that affect them in front of a huge audience, it's just weird