Gender Discussion #52

[ButtonDownTheHutches]

This is heartening. Those factions that have a vested interest in stifling debate won’t like it, because the last thing they want is educated, intelligent people presenting facts and well-reasoned arguments.

I wonder if there’ll be a concomitant culture shift at the employee level, whereby GC academics are able to maintain their beliefs without being sanctioned?

Serious concern over universities, says free speech boss

Prof Arif Ahmed wants to encourage debate - even on inflammatory subjects like Brexit, pronouns and abortion.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Metropolis]

Bloody liars

What hope is there for women and girls around the world when an organisation like UN Women which purports to be the “United Nations entity for gender equality and women's empowerment” is institutionally captured? They tweeted that stupid infographic (which originated from the UN) twice.

 

[Peachsquish]

Just seen

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...-chest-binders-trans-non-binary-students.html

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Also seen. Severe male menopause 'could even be classed as disabled'
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Just seen

https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...-chest-binders-trans-non-binary-students.html

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Also seen. Severe male menopause 'could even be classed as disabled'

Quoting as forgot to link https://www.archive.is/oldest/https...loyers-duty-care-protect-experiencing-it.html

 

[Avenged7Fold]

The male menopause stuff is seriously pissing me off. Women have been derided and mocked for decades over very real difficulties with the menopause. Along come the men to hijack it and suddenly it’s a very real thing.

As for allowing men in to the women’s night shelter, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. How long before one of the biological women is assaulted ? I’ll give it a couple of months

 

[ozblackcat]

Bloody liars

Sorry I realise I am not saying anything new on this, but I can’t get my head around it. I have no care or interest in who people do in their spare time, I don’t care what you wear or call yourself when you do it. But I am yet to meet a les who has said what they’re looking for in a partner is a male… now I’m not a les, and I haven’t met every les ever. But surely, surely to god, this is virtue signalling tit! Why aren’t lesbians the world over saying, “actually no!”

 

[jewelkitty]

I couldn't sleep last night because of the horrors I'd seen online yesterday of the evil that's being carried out against Israeli women. Woke up to a "they/them" man I work with posting this. I feel sick to my stomach.

 

[CookieZippy]

The TRAs on twitter are utterly obsessed with those Nazis showing up to letwomenspeak as being proof of all terfs being NAZIS. Is there any evidence that can fully debunk this? They apparently know that Posie Parker personally invited the Nazis too.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

The TRAs on twitter are utterly obsessed with those Nazis showing up to letwomenspeak as being proof of all terfs being NAZIS. Is there any evidence that can fully debunk this? They apparently know that Posie Parker personally invited the Nazis too.

I can’t get behind PP when these people are showing up at events. I know it’s hard to stop them, but it’s horrible

 

[Notworthy]

I can’t get behind PP when these people are showing up at events. I know it’s hard to stop them, but it’s horrible

It's not down to Posey to stop them. All the Let Women Speak events.are in public places where anyone has the right to show up.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

It's not down to Posey to stop them. All the Let Women Speak events.are in public places where anyone has the right to show up.

I know and it makes me feel bad

 

[CookieZippy]

This is the thing. Do we actually know for certain that she isn't inviting these people? There does sometimes feel something slightly off about Posie Parker. I don't think she's whiter than white.

 

[Scotch Mist]

This is the thing. Do we actually know for certain that she isn't inviting these people? There does sometimes feel something slightly off about Posie Parker. I don't think she's whiter than white.

Yes we do know that she isn't inviting them as she has said so on her video blog. Kellie Jay is not aligned with these people in anyway and these guys are discrediting her.

 

[Princess She-Ra]

This is the thing. Do we actually know for certain that she isn't inviting these people? There does sometimes feel something slightly off about Posie Parker. I don't think she's whiter than white.

Why would she deliberately give them more reasons to try and shut it down

 

[Notworthy]

This is the thing. Do we actually know for certain that she isn't inviting these people? There does sometimes feel something slightly off about Posie Parker. I don't think she's whiter than white.

Seriously!!!

 

[ThisIsMyGuiltyPleasure]

Bloody liars

Trans Lesbians are men ffs, this is utterly insulting.

 

[LadyAlys]

I went on the women thread earlier. It was ok until someone used “cishet”. Don’t these women realise that all this ridiculous language contributes to the way that women and girls are being treated?!
Men are the problem…whether they wear suits or dresses and they are all men. I want to shake these so called feminists perpetuating this liberal crap. And no, KJ has never invited Nazis to LWS events, same as she has never invited the fascist Left that turn up screaming and shouting!

 

[Ilovemusic]

It's not down to Posey to stop them. All the Let Women Speak events.are in public places where anyone has the right to show up.

The Let Women Speak event I attended recently had no nazis, only some trans and their supporters and most of them were wearing masks (they do love to hide their faces )

 

[klarakluckbag]

Why aren’t lesbians the world over saying, “actually no!”

To be fair, lesbians the world over are actually saying "no". But men don't like to be told no. So they complain about being excluded from les dating apps. Or les speed-dating events. They whinge and whine and threaten women with expensive legal action, or they'll threaten venue owners with boycotts, noisy protests and the like. They don't like women getting together in any way, shape or form, no matter whether we're lesbians or not (that's probably one reason why the far-right nazi groups gatecrash the PP events, they like to think that they can speak for us, only louder. You don't see many women doing the nazi salute, do you? )
I'm completely bloody sick of incels, trying to coerce gay women into having sex with them, and calling them "transphobic" if they don't. I'm not a les, but I support all women to have the right to choose who they sleep with, and who they don't. It's no-one else's business!

 

[CookieZippy]

Yes we do know that she isn't inviting them as she has said so on her video blog. Kellie Jay is not aligned with these people in anyway and these guys are discrediting her.

Oh I don't believe she's connected to them at all. Would just be good to have a way to totally shut these nutters down when they bring it up. Not that they'd ever believe anything anyway as they believe what they want to. They are severely mentally unwell.

 

[Piff paff puff]

Saw a clip of a GB NEWS presenter interviewing what looked like a white, straight, middle-class, middle-aged man who was bending backwards to defend trans even when presented with all the reasons we discuss here, safety, sports, etc he was spitting his dummy out spewing out incorrect stats as they always do. You just wonder whhhyyyyyy?????????