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Listen to this absolute nutcase Senator… these people are in power :eek: She really gets going 30 seconds in. Really starts screaming about 2 mins in.

Trigger warning: normally I roll my eyes at some trigger warnings but perhaps don’t watch if people chanting/ranting sends you feeling bad, her chanting actually is scary - lunacy is quite scary to behold.



Seriously, the lunatics have taken over the asylum. Oh my goodness. Absolute lunacy.
She sounds (and looks) insane from the second she opens her mouth. So many of these people are quite clearly mentally ill.
 
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If I see a sniff of pronouns I immediately think that person is a delusional wanker.
 
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I looked her up, it appears so... Mind blowing. She comes across childish, tantrum-y, dim, and insane. I am genuinely scared by people who chant like that and start having a tantrum when they are an adult.
I watched the video and the pseudo-religious fervour made me think it was a performance for the benefit of someone, if you see what I mean. I had a hunch she has a trans family member, maybe even a trans kid.

I was right. Trans kid.
 
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I watched the video and the pseudo-religious fervour made me think it was a performance for the benefit of someone, if you see what I mean. I had a hunch she has a trans family member, maybe even a trans kid.

I was right. Trans kid.
Ahhhhh I see! Of course!
 
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I follow a girl on Twitter, bless her, everyone's really worried about her because she's vanished. She is severe ED.

So, people are asking where she is, and of course you've got the usual idiots who instead of being, 'yeah we're really worried too', just say, 'omg, what are you misgendering him?'.

So the girl in question used to go by She/He/They and at some point this year switched to He/Him.

If you started following her last year you'd just be used to saying her, she's very feminine in presentation but probably tomboyish in personality. I don't think she even really cares, I mean, she's schizophrenic etc etc etc and believes she's on the path to becoming a unicorn.

So now, we've got trans making other trans feel bad for not checking pronouns every time they check someone's twitter just incase they've decided to update them recently because they could literally change them at any time and then a trans can be accused of misgendering and being transphobic for not using the correct pronouns even though they were using the correct pronouns of the options given by the individual not long before.

Note to self: it's more important to be concerned about whether an individual is being misgendered rather than whether or not an individual has died from their eating disorder. What the duck is wrong with these people?
 
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As a continuation.....

So I was reading a few days ago how misgendering is considered traumatic and violent.

I get it, having people not *see* you for who you *really* are. How it can be damaging, I do actually understand this. I'm like this rough old mare who's a bit battered, scarred and tattooed, muscular. To top it off, I am the typical autism blunt, lack certain abilities with regards to correct emotional responses, tone of voice etc, so people assume that I'm a dark, depressed, intimidating, scary, pessimistic witch. Truth is, I love flowers, working out and photography and rainbows and cows with a bit of an interest in torture and murder thrown in.

So I can see why trans might *feel* how the feel about being misgendered because I'm mispersonalitied BUT.... what they don't appreciate is how it is to be worried about not getting pronouns correct all the damn time because not only is it a bit embarrassing for all concerned, 'oops, so sorry' but also because the person you accidentally misgendered could literally flip the duck out at you. Constantly walking on damn eggshells.

Yes, it must be hard to be whatevered but we are all whatevered every day in some way, some people are misgendered, some people are constantly assumed to be more capable or less capable based on age, sex, disability or assumptions made about who we are as a person based on appearances/history/religion/race. To be offended is a choice, sure, be upset but don't react in such an inflammatory way. There are ways of doing things without screaming transphobe at every tiny little thing. In the grand scheme of things, by bringing in so many options, by being able to be he/him whilst presenting as female and whatever other combinations, they haven't exactly made it easy and I'm not going to read every little damn badge I come across, first of all, I don't like staring at people's chests trying to figure out the tiny writing on the badge and secondly, I'm more interested in a name; a name is more important than a pronoun because that is WHO you actually are, not your damn pronoun.
 
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Good Lord. I was just walking through town today, when I clocked like full, young AGP dressed in what looked like an outfit a six year old girl might wear.

Little flowery canvas dolly shoes, haaaairy legs, tiny shorts, a tiny pink flowery crop top, haaairy stomach, pubey beard and high short pig tails; this kid can’t have been older than 18 at most.
I got the full close up look, cos he walked right towards me as I was trying to scooch past a couple of people and honestly CHRIST.

It made me feel queasy and quite perturbed like why is this young man dressed like a very young girl..? And why is his image now seared into my brain??? Thanks existence.

And like I don’t live in London or a big city which takes allsorts. It’s just a small Northern town that is mostly students and pensioners. It’s very jarring to see around here for sure but it’s definitely becoming more noticeable. Very, very odd.
I used to be pretty live and let live when it comes to clothes and make up. I’m glad it’s acceptable for women to wear trousers now so I don’t mind men wearing skirts if they wish. However what you describe sounds like fetish wear. In my mind it’s no different to someone in public wearing a gif suit.
 
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I used to be pretty live and let live when it comes to clothes and make up. I’m glad it’s acceptable for women to wear trousers now so I don’t mind men wearing skirts if they wish. However what you describe sounds like fetish wear. In my mind it’s no different to someone in public wearing a gif suit.
Agreed. I wonder if that person wears the fetish girl outfit to work or college or whatever. I am willing to bet they try. People seem to be untouchable these days for gender identity.
 
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Sorry you had to go through that!
There’s one who gets on the train I take to my mum’s once a week: bloke in his 60s, deep voice, blond wig, tight clothes; always makes a point of painting his nails and putting on lipstick in full view of everyone in the carriage and speaks in a loud voice on his mobile phone referring to women he’s encountered as witches.
When I went on honeymoon last year we stayed at a hotel near the airport before an early flight and saw one checking in, tons of makeup, tight skirt. I always remember that because my husband is very pro-trans and gets asked if he's trans/non-binary (he has long hair and sometimes wears a bit of eyeliner or black nail polish, although that's because he's into gothy stuff and old-fashioned rock and so on, he knows he's a man.) And even he was staring at this person and clearly thought something was up. He knows deep down and I think most people do
 
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I told my dog she doesn't belong on the couch. She told me I was telling her she didn't exist. My dog has now disappeared. Help.
 
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Listen to this absolute nutcase Senator… these people are in power :eek: She really gets going 30 seconds in. Really starts screaming about 2 mins in.

Trigger warning: normally I roll my eyes at some trigger warnings but perhaps don’t watch if people chanting/ranting sends you feeling bad, her chanting actually is scary - lunacy is quite scary to behold.



Seriously, the lunatics have taken over the asylum. Oh my goodness. Absolute lunacy.
SHE NEEDS THERAPY!
 
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As a continuation.....

So I was reading a few days ago how misgendering is considered traumatic and violent.

I get it, having people not *see* you for who you *really* are. How it can be damaging, I do actually understand this. I'm like this rough old mare who's a bit battered, scarred and tattooed, muscular. To top it off, I am the typical autism blunt, lack certain abilities with regards to correct emotional responses, tone of voice etc, so people assume that I'm a dark, depressed, intimidating, scary, pessimistic witch. Truth is, I love flowers, working out and photography and rainbows and cows with a bit of an interest in torture and murder thrown in.

So I can see why trans might *feel* how the feel about being misgendered because I'm mispersonalitied BUT.... what they don't appreciate is how it is to be worried about not getting pronouns correct all the damn time because not only is it a bit embarrassing for all concerned, 'oops, so sorry' but also because the person you accidentally misgendered could literally flip the duck out at you. Constantly walking on damn eggshells.

Yes, it must be hard to be whatevered but we are all whatevered every day in some way, some people are misgendered, some people are constantly assumed to be more capable or less capable based on age, sex, disability or assumptions made about who we are as a person based on appearances/history/religion/race. To be offended is a choice, sure, be upset but don't react in such an inflammatory way. There are ways of doing things without screaming transphobe at every tiny little thing. In the grand scheme of things, by bringing in so many options, by being able to be he/him whilst presenting as female and whatever other combinations, they haven't exactly made it easy and I'm not going to read every little damn badge I come across, first of all, I don't like staring at people's chests trying to figure out the tiny writing on the badge and secondly, I'm more interested in a name; a name is more important than a pronoun because that is WHO you actually are, not your damn pronoun.
It's a cult. There is no medical condition of trans. There is gender dysphoria, but not trans and dysphoria doesn't make you trans either.

Trans-gender is an accumulation of mental disorders and social contagion. It is not diagnosable, because it doesn't exist. I used to think it would be the children that would bring this house of cards down, but now I think it will be the straight men, the men who up until very recently they left out of the abuse. Now, they have grown so powerful and so arrogant they believe everyone is fair game, they have started abusing the straight, white men. These men are not afraid of being cancelled (because they won't be) they are not afraid of losing jobs (because it wouldn't happen) they are not afraid of these pathetic bullies (because they see them as pathetic, lesser people). These are the people who will stop it. These are the father's, the husbands, brothers, uncles, friends of the abused. They have started speaking up, finally.
 
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