Gender Discussion #37

[rosemarina]

This is quite trivial, but I was reminded this morning of how women are expected to be men’s support humans, even for complete strangers. I was in a tube station earlier, trying to listen to a voicemail (with the phone clearly held against my ear), and some random man kept trying to get me to stop what I was doing and answer his “Quick question, quick question! Excuse me, quick question”.

I was CLEARLY busy, I wasn’t accidentally wearing a Tube uniform, and there were plenty of other people around he could have asked (including staff at the ticket barriers), but no, I was expected to drop everything, interrupt my call and tend to his whims. The sheer bleeping disrespect of men towards women continues to astonish me. (I walked off.)

 

[maytoseptember]

I think older trans women like ex boxer manager kellie and Caitlin Jenner are really possibly gay. Because they had the sex change process and now want to date men. The sex change operation does not change someone’s sexual orientation. From their generation being around 60 years old they have an internal homophobia and feel better if they are a female?

Not necessarily! The thing about autogynephilia is it’s a sissy fetish, or humiliation fetish, and it tends to progress further and further - which is why it starts as secret cross dressing, maybe stealing the clothes/underwear of family members, to wanting to cross dress full time, to wanting to date men.

Dating men is like the pinnacle of a fantasy involving being seen and treated as a “real woman”. I have personal experience of this. An old friend from uni who we all thought was a bit quirky and porn addled (and this was 20 years ago so porn was not as extreme as it is now) came out as trans around ten years ago, still has the same blokey job and interests, and has now gone public about dating a man. First relationship since coming out. Hasn’t had surgery so I guess they’re a chaser. This person was never attracted to men before, so I have no doubt that this is end stage AGP behaviour.

 

[Vanelope]

This is quite trivial, but I was reminded this morning of how women are expected to be men’s support humans, even for complete strangers. I was in a tube station earlier, trying to listen to a voicemail (with the phone clearly held against my ear), and some random man kept trying to get me to stop what I was doing and answer his “Quick question, quick question! Excuse me, quick question”.

I was CLEARLY busy, I wasn’t accidentally wearing a Tube uniform, and there were plenty of other people around he could have asked (including staff at the ticket barriers), but no, I was expected to drop everything, interrupt my call and tend to his whims. The sheer bleeping disrespect of men towards women continues to astonish me. (I walked off.)

Yes, then we are called names for ignoring them or walking off because we haven’t done what they want. Awful.

 

[nicalibres]

I haven’t really ventured onto the gender discussion threads because it’s got to the point where I deliberately shield myself from any sort of trans discussion as it’s so depressing and rage inducing.

However, this came up on my Twitter feed and I have to vent - apologies if it’s already been posted. A violent, 6”5 male paed0phile moved to a women’s prison after assaulting a fellow inmate in a man’s prison. This is state sanctioned abuse of women.

 

[Summerday]

Saw this on Twitter and it's just such ridiculous drivel: Women (of course he refers to us as terfs) are like incels. Transwomen are more vulnerable than women. Women (he again calls us terfs) believe that all women are "good" and all men are "bad," and that the existence of transwomen contradicts that belief and it's that contradiction that causes us to oppose trans activism. Huh? Did he just inadvertently admit that transwomen are men or is he saying that TWAW, but all transwomen are "bad"?

What gets me about these TIMs and their idiotic speeches is how they're completely unaware that what they say reveals that they are men. Even if they were able to pass (which 99% of them don't) EVERYONE would be able to tell that they're TIMs based off of their beliefs, their viewpoints, and what they say. So, maybe they can explain how certain thoughts/feelings in a male's mind can make him a woman, but those same thoughts/beliefs are most commonly held by men and very rarely by women.

 

[Autumncolors]

It makes me sick.

 

[Falkor]

Hadley Freeman was on Woman's Hour this morning - not up on their website yet, but should appear here before too long:

BBC Radio 4 - Woman's Hour - Available now

Available episodes of Woman's Hour

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[rosemarina]

Hadley Freeman was on Woman's Hour this morning - not up on their website yet, but should appear here before too long:

BBC Radio 4 - Woman's Hour - Available now

Available episodes of Woman's Hour

www.bbc.co.uk

Wow, I’m sorry I missed that. WH is totally captured. What was it like?

 

[Sweetcouchpotato]

This is where this "your feelings are valid" narcissistic culture takes us. Sometimes your feelings aren't valid, sometimes they're a self-indulgent, sociopathic steaming pile of absolute unmitigated shite for which you should possibly be arrested and at the very least be publicly bleeping shamed.

Absolutely. When my actual sisters found out I'd been raped, do you know what they did? Instantly flew across the room, hugged me so hard and cried with me, then got really bleeping angry about hole rapist scum.

This rancid man is in no way a sister to his sister, and isn't even a decent brother. That poor woman being lumbered with an utter pig like him as a brother, sulking about why someone picked her to molest and not him and his girl dick, despite being so, so great. I cannot imagine having such thoughts, let alone sharing them, and expecting validation.

 

[TooFarScone]

Seen on twitter

As if these narcissists send Christmas cards.

 

[Ilovemusic]

Eddie Izzard has failed in his bid to be chosen by Labour as their election candidate.

Never mind Eddie, every cloud has a silver lining, you'll have more free time now to browse the dress shops.

 

[Autumncolors]

Yeah yeah… you are obviously a man…

 

[Ekathrina]

Post on Facebook tonight about a OF/TikTok star who went from benefits to buying a house outright and car. Hundreds of comments good for her, it’s money. Yes I agree it’s her life and her money but:
Do people not realise the modern normalisation of sex work, OF and porn is coming at a price. It’s not liberating woman, it’s putting us at more danger. Porn addiction is not a joke, alone it also fuels sexual dysfunction, MH, as well as warped sexual fantasies. 2022 and despite education and funding sexual assaults and DV are more common as ever if not more dangerous especially homicidal.

i watched a tiktok video on a transgender woman. I don’t even know if that is the correct term anymore. Who explained that she had dilate her vagina everyday due to botched surgery or pay £100,000 to have the hole filled in. Not to mention the hormones they must have to take forever it’s all a massive money making scheme that doctors and psychiatrists are taking advantage of even in this country like the clinic for children the Tavistock.

I think older trans women like ex boxer manager kellie and Caitlin Jenner are really possibly gay. Because they had the sex change process and now want to date men. The sex change operation does not change someone’s sexual orientation. From their generation being around 60 years old they have a internal homophobia and feel better if they are a female?

I think nowadays younger generations it’s different reasonings and different mindsets. Lots of algorithms on apps like YouTube promoting this and doctors encouraging this for the benefit of money.

Gabor mate is great. So is dr ramani, however her work is more about narcissists.

I take any of those rags to riches fairytales about OnlyFans with a massive pinch of salt because they are all bollocks. The vast majority of people on there earn duck all but it’s run like an MLM with referall links and commission so they can and do lie about it, just like influencers do with their leased cars and rented property. Unfortunately a lot of young people do fall for all the smoke and mirrors tactics, and they ruin their lives in the process, as well as contributing to what is a foul and damaging industry.

 

[thegirlscout]

Hadley Freeman was on Woman's Hour this morning - not up on their website yet, but should appear here before too long:

BBC Radio 4 - Woman's Hour - Available now

Available episodes of Woman's Hour

www.bbc.co.uk

Apparently she was told that only male reporters could write about gender issues, no women writers would be allowed to do this when working at the Guardian. Can’t listen at the moment but this is what social media is telling me.

 

[DanaScully]

Eddie Izzard has failed in his bid to be chosen by Labour as their election candidate.

Never mind Eddie, every cloud has a silver lining, you'll have more free time now to browse the dress shops.

I'm so pleased Abtisam Mohamed has been selected as the Labour parliamentary candidate for Sheffield. From what I've read, she has really impressive credentials and a great track record.

The cherry on the cake would be to find out she is GC! One can only hope.

 

[emmer_moans]

Eddie Izzard has failed in his bid to be chosen by Labour as their election candidate.

Never mind Eddie, every cloud has a silver lining, you'll have more free time now to browse the dress shops.

Thank feccccck for that. I am of the opinion that celebs shouldn't stand for political office, because they will sometimes get voted in on popularity/fame alone, with no proven track record of actual political work in the community.

This is quite trivial, but I was reminded this morning of how women are expected to be men’s support humans, even for complete strangers. I was in a tube station earlier, trying to listen to a voicemail (with the phone clearly held against my ear), and some random man kept trying to get me to stop what I was doing and answer his “Quick question, quick question! Excuse me, quick question”.

I was CLEARLY busy, I wasn’t accidentally wearing a Tube uniform, and there were plenty of other people around he could have asked (including staff at the ticket barriers), but no, I was expected to drop everything, interrupt my call and tend to his whims. The sheer bleeping disrespect of men towards women continues to astonish me. (I walked off.)

This, this and this! I see it happen at work all the time.

 

[DoraMaar]

I'm so pleased Abtisam Mohamed has been selected as the Labour parliamentary candidate for Sheffield. From what I've read, she has really impressive credentials and a great track record.

The cherry on the cake would be to find out she is GC! One can only hope.

 

[The True Venus ♀]

It makes me sick.

I’m gonna be sick

Yeah yeah… you are obviously a man…

A whole woman

 

[smellyfootballboots]

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They class eyerolling as a hate crime, I'm deeply suspicious of these statistics.

 

[The True Venus ♀]

Absolutely. When my actual sisters found out I'd been raped, do you know what they did? Instantly flew across the room, hugged me so hard and cried with me, then got really bleeping angry about hole rapist scum.

This rancid man is in no way a sister to his sister, and isn't even a decent brother. That poor woman being lumbered with an utter pig like him as a brother, sulking about why someone picked her to molest and not him and his girl dick, despite being so, so great. I cannot imagine having such thoughts, let alone sharing them, and expecting validation.

The fact that he was so bold to post that tit on a sub Reddit thinking it was okay and people would “understand”
I saw another Reddit post of a TIM who was around my age who said he had a female friend who was sexually harassed by some boys at their college and he was wishing they would do it to him to feel more validated in his “womanhood”
Like wtf is that? You’re telling me this isn’t
Mental illness mixed with extreme porn addiction?