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Found a porn stick AGP :) Who calls women witches, talks nonstop about sex and his penis, thinks the world revolves around him ect.



Found his Twitter also, not surprised by it either.

He’s extremely rapey AND homophobic
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He Sends links to ⬛🟧 because we all know that they get their idea of women through porn (also has a weird obsession with porn titles like MILF)
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Yeah of course he has an 8 incher, sure we believe him 🙄
 
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For someone so ‘right on’ about everything, I wonder why Nicola Sturgeon and her team are using disabled seats
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Poor girls 😞

Thank god there were people calling him out, I haven’t seen that happen for a long time on Reddit. I do truly hope the tide is changing. The man obviously wanted someone to coddle him and say ‘it’s perfectly normal, they will accept you’.

Controversial but I’ve been thinking it for awhile. Im kinda fed up with how prominent ‘gender critical’ men like Matt Walsh and Billboard Chris are when they only care about women in a conservative and traditional way. Chris talks about things in a very Republican way and uses ‘liberal’ or ‘liberal women’ almost like a slur and Matt Walsh is anti choice and homophobic. It does sadden me when I see prominent women like KJK/Posie Parker aline with them because they really don’t care about women as a whole, just trans ideology.
 
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Just awful, isn't it? Makes my blood boil. I have no patience with these people.
I have no respect for them either. Utter sheep. I guarantee not one of them has engaged their brains or actually read JKR’s essay - just blindly gone along with sound bites like “JKR is a transphobe”, “JKR wants all trans people eradicated in a genocide”.

And in more depressing news, I’ve just been snooping on an old acquaintance’s FB and their teen daughter (who I’m guessing is autistic… believe me I have a good radar) is now a trans man, has started testosterone and is crowdfunding for top surgery. Yet another 5 foot nothing, meek, depressed little manlet.
 
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I have no respect for them either. Utter sheep. I guarantee not one of them has engaged their brains or actually read JKR’s essay - just blindly gone along with sound bites like “JKR is a transphobe”, “JKR wants all trans people eradicated in a genocide”.
Utter sheep is right. This is the problem - do these people just not think critically for themselves at all? All of the presumably educated NHS staff on that post @DoraMaar shared - are they even reading what they are publicly fawning over? If they are then an ounce of critical thinking would have them come to the conclusion that it’s nonsense which has the opposite effect to something promoting inclusivity and access. It’s actually scary.
 
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Utter sheep is right. This is the problem - do these people just not think critically for themselves at all? All of the presumably educated NHS staff on that post @DoraMaar shared - are they even reading what they are publicly fawning over? If they are then an ounce of critical thinking would have them come to the conclusion that it’s nonsense which has the opposite effect to something promoting inclusivity and access. It’s actually scary.
They’re fawning over it because they know Good People denounce transphobes, and JKR Rowling is a transphobe, so they have to do what Good People do.

I’m really starting to appreciate more and more how the Left have created this monster. Left leaning people take a lot of pride in knowing that they are the goodies of society (I should know because I spent my late teens and 20s in that mindset) and they are exactly the ones patting themselves on the back, ushering in this cult and applauding as vulnerable kids sign up.
 
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Definitely a mentally stable person to give fire arms to.🙄
If you go back in their posts you can see that they use Grindr AND complain about TERFs using the twoxxchromosomes subreddit. Clearly they recognise there is a place for them in gay male spaces as a gay male. Idk it just bothers me like not every single space is for you. Pick one and stick to it (preferably not a women’s space…)

Also, a funny look isn’t reason to pull a gun on someone! If someone is attacking them then I understand a bit more but even then not really - the issue is that the USA arms their opponent with a gun too, which is what makes the situation dangerous, so caping for the right to conceal carry a bleeping AR15 (go back in their posts to see this) is part of the problem.

Controversial but I’ve been thinking it for awhile. Im kinda fed up with how prominent ‘gender critical’ men like Matt Walsh and Billboard Chris are when they only care about women in a conservative and traditional way. Chris talks about things in a very Republican way and uses ‘liberal’ or ‘liberal women’ almost like a slur and Matt Walsh is anti choice and homophobic. It does sadden me when I see prominent women like KJK/Posie Parker aline with them because they really don’t care about women as a whole, just trans ideology.
I hate this as well tbh. We’re in an age experiencing a lot of really vile, anti-feminist rhetoric, from all sides, and that makes this really concerning. I don’t see it spoken about often because there are a million and one common responses used to shut down the concerns - “Karen” and “TERF” to name a few. I’m worried we’re basically platforming people that will stab us in the back in the end. Tbh, they already have done
 
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I hate this as well tbh. We’re in an age experiencing a lot of really vile, anti-feminist rhetoric, from all sides, and that makes this really concerning. I don’t see it spoken about often because there are a million and one common responses used to shut down the concerns - “Karen” and “TERF” to name a few. I’m worried we’re basically platforming people that will stab us in the back in the end. Tbh, they already have done
It’s scary and a lot of times when you call out these type of men on twitter you get so much abuse from both men and women. They say we should ‘be kind’ and support our allies but if there wasn’t TRAs those men wouldn’t care one jolt about women.
 
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They’re fawning over it because they know Good People denounce transphobes, and JKR Rowling is a transphobe, so they have to do what Good People do.

I’m really starting to appreciate more and more how the Left have created this monster. Left leaning people take a lot of pride in knowing that they are the goodies of society (I should know because I spent my late teens and 20s in that mindset) and they are exactly the ones patting themselves on the back, ushering in this cult and applauding as vulnerable kids sign up.
I was talking to a relative, who was extremely excited and delighted to be working in a school with an openly trans teacher. He thought it was brave and a good way to stand up to traditional right wing ideology! And was patting himself on the back for being so supportive.

I didnt want to get into a row, so said nothing, but .... It is frustrating. I wish someone would openly discuss some of the main issues with the whole trans movement. Green velvet did a great post on the previous thread. comments like: Comments I wish left leaning trans supporters could actually spend some time thinking about!!!

Sex = biological sex. It is immutable in humans
  1. Your sex defines you as a man or a woman
  2. Gender = social etiquettes taught to each human sex, varying slightly across the world but generally anything that could be defined as socially masculine or feminine

  1. Women are oppressed on the basis of their sex in a way men are not (e.g. higher levels of rape, FGM) and our comparative physical weakness is used against us by men, who are physically more powerful than us and have oppressed us for hundreds if not thousands of years
  2. The male sex is more violent than the female sex, sexually and otherwise, and towards women than vice versa. These statistics are reflected in how a higher proportion of transsexual women are incarcerated for sexual and violent crimes than biological women
  3. Through trying to insist that there is no difference between a transgender woman and a “cis” or biological woman, and refusing to distinguish on the basis of sex rather than gender, the gender ideology movement is effectively writing over this history, and is obscuring valuable data we need to measure and work against violence against and oppression of women. It also incorrectly insinuates trans women and not trans men experience sex-based oppression in the same way biological women do, which isn’t really true because they are not female.
  4. This obstructs feminist movements in achieving parity between the sexes. for example workplaces collecting data on women’s access to male-dominated fields will gather skewed data if they do not distinguish via sex but gender instead - eg, trans women are socialised as men growing up and this receive encouragement to go into STEM that biological women do not. If a company does not distinguish between biological women and trans women in its data collection, and many trans women work in STEM roles, it may end up believing it has improved access for biological women when it hasn’t. There are other more nefarious examples of this problem
  5. Men are generally physically stronger than women, which means that if sports are not separated by sex, women will win infrequently. It also is not safe for women and men to compete in many sports owing to how much stronger men are than women - especially the strongest man vs the weakest woman in a contest

I think sadly there are big differences between generations about these issues.

Younger women in the UK and USA probably have been lucky not to face as much obvious sexual discrimination as previous generations. There are more chances at school and at work for women and men to be equal, and to have equal opportunities. Its not as true elsewhere in the world though!

Medical developments have moved on massively as well, with hormone treatments etc doing incredible things, like enabling older women to have babies, in their 50s or 60s. Or enabling trans genderism.

And traditionally women arent as arguementative, as men, so I would imagine a majority, even now, are less likely to pick a fight and discuss against the prevailing trends. Its now trendy to support trans rights and trans issues, irrespective of the biology and common sense.

I would try and be supportive to anyone with any kind of mental health issue, but... there is a difference to how I behave in public, to how I actually feel in private!

I do wish there was more open discussion of these issues.... instead of the vagueness, that seems to exist.
 
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Sex = biological sex. It is immutable in humans
  1. Your sex defines you as a man or a woman
  2. Gender = social etiquettes taught to each human sex, varying slightly across the world but generally anything that could be defined as socially masculine or feminine

  1. Women are oppressed on the basis of their sex in a way men are not (e.g. higher levels of rape, FGM) and our comparative physical weakness is used against us by men, who are physically more powerful than us and have oppressed us for hundreds if not thousands of years
  2. The male sex is more violent than the female sex, sexually and otherwise, and towards women than vice versa. These statistics are reflected in how a higher proportion of transsexual women are incarcerated for sexual and violent crimes than biological women
  3. Through trying to insist that there is no difference between a transgender woman and a “cis” or biological woman, and refusing to distinguish on the basis of sex rather than gender, the gender ideology movement is effectively writing over this history, and is obscuring valuable data we need to measure and work against violence against and oppression of women. It also incorrectly insinuates trans women and not trans men experience sex-based oppression in the same way biological women do, which isn’t really true because they are not female.
The scary thing is so many basic facts are seen as offensive or shocking. Say women are physically weaker than men and you’ll get men and women alike gasping in horror, either because you have betrayed your sex by admitting weakness, or they start bringing whataboutery into it - what about women who can bench press 100kg? They aren’t weaker than men. I hate that wilfully obtuse BS.

Likewise when you say men are more violent. OMG that sets men off. Insert not all men, more whataboutery: what about violent women? Women can be violent too you know!

I feel like we’ve got it all wrong over the last few generations. The concept of equality between the sexes (or, dare I say it, girl power) has been twisted and misconstrued to the point that it’s considered controversial to say that men and women are different in any way. I definitely internalised that as a young adult. I really think that has played a huge role in where we are today: the idea that saying anything about the differences between the sexes, or (worse still) saying that sex is immutable and cannot be changed, makes you some sort of anti-progressive, backward, ignorant dinosaur.
 
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I agree surrogacy is a bad thing. At the same time, arguments like "a child has the right to be with his/her mother!" or "children will develop lifelong psychological problems if separated from their birth mothers!" make me very uneasy because they are often used as anti-abortion arguments or to claim that women who do not want children/do not want to raise a child themselves are bad and unnatural. Although it is a good thing that surrogacy is currently under more scrutiny
 
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