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I'm not really sure whether to post this because I don't know that it's "helpful" and I am worried it is going to make me sound like an absolute nob, but here goes anyway.

In the past month or so, I've walked past obvious trans women on three separate occasions, all different trans women, all clearly male in a revealing dress, none of them would pass, even at a distance. I've smiled politely/briefly made eye contact, and on all 3 occasions received an incredibly disconcerting look, almost of sneering disgust tbh that immediately made me feel on edge.

Perhaps they were just self conscious but I can't help but feel unsettled. I'm very feminine looking, petite, hourglass figure, long hair etc. Having read aggressive tweets about how much some TIMs hate women and resent them, I can't help but feel there is something unsettling there.

Has anyone else experienced this? It has happened to me before, but to have it happen 3 times in a month or so has really brought it to my attention and I didn't know where else to discuss it 😬 hope I don't sound like a narcissistic nob!
 
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I wonder if this terrible attempt at woke comedy is going to hugely backfire given that she talks about male and female skeletons?





she covered herself. don’t really blame her with that mob. a few people are bringing up the subject in the comments though

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I know someone that was a fan of a gay male porn star who died from complications of bowel surgery - it was almost ten years ago now but she still talks about him, I suppose that's natural when you were a fan of any celebrity (or "celebrity.") She thinks it's very sad as he was young, in a happy relationship, and looked forward to recovering and working again. I don't know if his condition was caused by the demands of his "job" but it almost certainly didn't help and there are many many people, most of them women, who have died in similar circumstances. This is why it frustrates me so much when someone comes in with "you have back problems from your crappy minimum wage retail job, who are you to say 'sex work' is dangerous?"
 
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I'm not really sure whether to post this because I don't know that it's "helpful" and I am worried it is going to make me sound like an absolute nob, but here goes anyway.

In the past month or so, I've walked past obvious trans women on three separate occasions, all different trans women, all clearly male in a revealing dress, none of them would pass, even at a distance. I've smiled politely/briefly made eye contact, and on all 3 occasions received an incredibly disconcerting look, almost of sneering disgust tbh that immediately made me feel on edge.

Perhaps they were just self conscious but I can't help but feel unsettled. I'm very feminine looking, petite, hourglass figure, long hair etc. Having read aggressive tweets about how much some TIMs hate women and resent them, I can't help but feel there is something unsettling there.

Has anyone else experienced this? It has happened to me before, but to have it happen 3 times in a month or so has really brought it to my attention and I didn't know where else to discuss it 😬 hope I don't sound like a narcissistic nob!
I’m not surprised you’ve come to that conclusion, bearing in mind how many TIMs rant online about their hatred of women for just having the temerity to be female in public. It’s never happened to me but I do live a sheltered life and am over 40, so no one is going to be jealous of me 😉

I have, though, in the past year, clocked two young men in womens clothing. It literally took a fraction of a second out of the corner of my eye to spot them. One was definitely trans identified, with small padded boobs under a tight t shirt. The other may have just been a bit of a goth trying to be edgy in a pleather mini skirt (and all power to him if that’s the look he was going for).

That’s funny and written so innocently 😇 yet the two names just happened to be chosen in that story are Lia and Reddit’s own Aimee 😇
Which makes me think this story is a heap of balls written to wind people up tbh.
 
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I mentioned a while ago a Korean woman who was attacked and beaten up for blocking a TIM on her fanblog. Said TIM and a lot of other commenters left very abusive comments about how she deserved it because she was a "thin, pretty 'cis' woman", there is definitely a huge element of jealousy for a lot of them. Not sure I've ever personally experienced it as I haven't met many TIMs in the real world but then my brother-in-law's TIM "sister" has always been snippy with me - and he doesn't know I am a "TERF", I've never been anything but polite to him. I wonder now if it's because my sister, his brother's partner, dresses very casually and more like him whereas I'm a lot more "girly." He is HSTS not an AGP but who knows?

Which makes me think this story is a heap of balls written to wind people up tbh.
There was someone who used to draw GC cartoons on Tumblr - I can't remember the username, she eventually deleted her blog and art but they still circulate on there. She had a very widely shared cartoon of a woman innocently setting up her transwomen friends on a blind date together and then them yelling at her and calling her a transphobe, it was so similar to this I think the person might be copying it to make a point
 
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I'm not really sure whether to post this because I don't know that it's "helpful" and I am worried it is going to make me sound like an absolute nob, but here goes anyway.

In the past month or so, I've walked past obvious trans women on three separate occasions, all different trans women, all clearly male in a revealing dress, none of them would pass, even at a distance. I've smiled politely/briefly made eye contact, and on all 3 occasions received an incredibly disconcerting look, almost of sneering disgust tbh that immediately made me feel on edge.

Perhaps they were just self conscious but I can't help but feel unsettled. I'm very feminine looking, petite, hourglass figure, long hair etc. Having read aggressive tweets about how much some TIMs hate women and resent them, I can't help but feel there is something unsettling there.

Has anyone else experienced this? It has happened to me before, but to have it happen 3 times in a month or so has really brought it to my attention and I didn't know where else to discuss it 😬 hope I don't sound like a narcissistic nob!
Yes, once before. Someone clocked me clocking them as I was walking past them and they gave me quite a glare.
 
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I mentioned a while ago a Korean woman who was attacked and beaten up for blocking a TIM on her fanblog. Said TIM and a lot of other commenters left very abusive comments about how she deserved it because she was a "thin, pretty 'cis' woman", there is definitely a huge element of jealousy for a lot of them. Not sure I've ever personally experienced it as I haven't met many TIMs in the real world but then my brother-in-law's TIM "sister" has always been snippy with me - and he doesn't know I am a "TERF", I've never been anything but polite to him. I wonder now if it's because my sister, his brother's partner, dresses very casually and more like him whereas I'm a lot more "girly." He is HSTS not an AGP but who knows?



There was someone who used to draw GC cartoons on Tumblr - I can't remember the username, she eventually deleted her blog and art but they still circulate on there. She had a very widely shared cartoon of a woman innocently setting up her transwomen friends on a blind date together and then them yelling at her and calling her a transphobe, it was so similar to this I think the person might be copying it to make a point
I had no problem with it a few years ago, but the term "cis" now really annoys me, surely over 90% of the population is "cis", I don't get why we have to differentiate ourselves while transwomen just refer to themselves as women?
 
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I had no problem with it a few years ago, but the term "cis" now really annoys me, surely over 90% of the population is "cis", I don't get why we have to differentiate ourselves while transwomen just refer to themselves as women?
Cuz it reinforces the idea they want to spread that transwomen are just a "subset" of women and it's no different from being a Black woman, a wheelchair-using woman, a les, or any other marginalised group of women
 
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Which makes me think this story is a heap of balls written to wind people up tbh.
Might be just a wind up, my take is that it’s supposed to be a trap-post because anybody’s objection to the OP results in a catch 22 situation. I did see some comments on an archived post and the people trying to say that the OP was wrong were tying themselves in knots!
 
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I had no problem with it a few years ago, but the term "cis" now really annoys me, surely over 90% of the population is "cis", I don't get why we have to differentiate ourselves while transwomen just refer to themselves as women?
Ahem, for anyone who didn't already know where the term "cis" came from. I am noticing a theme in this movement.

 
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I had no problem with it a few years ago, but the term "cis" now really annoys me, surely over 90% of the population is "cis", I don't get why we have to differentiate ourselves while transwomen just refer to themselves as women?
I used to be OK with using "cis" but I no longer use it anymore. We are simply women. I'm not bowing to their demands.

I know I've been too nice and accepting in the past and this is where we've ended up. So duck it!
 
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Ahem, for anyone who didn't already know where the term "cis" came from. I am noticing a theme in this movement.

I had no problem with it a few years ago, but the term "cis" now really annoys me, surely over 90% of the population is "cis", I don't get why we have to differentiate ourselves while transwomen just refer to themselves as women?

Less than a fraction of 1% of the population are trans, yet cis gets lumped onto 99.9% of the population whether they like it or not.
 
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I'm not really sure whether to post this because I don't know that it's "helpful" and I am worried it is going to make me sound like an absolute nob, but here goes anyway.

In the past month or so, I've walked past obvious trans women on three separate occasions, all different trans women, all clearly male in a revealing dress, none of them would pass, even at a distance. I've smiled politely/briefly made eye contact, and on all 3 occasions received an incredibly disconcerting look, almost of sneering disgust tbh that immediately made me feel on edge.

Perhaps they were just self conscious but I can't help but feel unsettled. I'm very feminine looking, petite, hourglass figure, long hair etc. Having read aggressive tweets about how much some TIMs hate women and resent them, I can't help but feel there is something unsettling there.

Has anyone else experienced this? It has happened to me before, but to have it happen 3 times in a month or so has really brought it to my attention and I didn't know where else to discuss it 😬 hope I don't sound like a narcissistic nob!
They're all misogynists. They loathe and detest women. Their pretence at womanhood is an act of aggression towards us.

Trans'women' exist in a permanent state of existential crisis because they hate themselves so much and are fully aware that they're merely a parody.

What it must be to live your entire life revolving around a paraphilia rather than just getting on with living with the rest of us do. It must consume and dominate them, like an addiction. It is an addiction. The faster they realise this and seek help, the better. They need psychiatric therapy to address their problems. Nobody lives happily on meth and trans'women' cannot live happily in weird dresses and being sex obsessed.
 
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Gosh, I wonder why on Earth they disallowed comments on this? 🤔
I still would like to ask Stonewall, how to toilet train nursery age children in an entirely non gender way. In fact maybe it would be interesting advice for parents? Bearing in mind, 3 or 4 year olds still need reminding...to go to the loo, to wash their hands... etc etc.

Do they suggest all children now stand up to wee, or do they all sit down?

Do Stonewall advocate the removal now of all urinals from mens toilets? Because these just enforce gender stereotypes? Please someone ask them or start a proper campaign to remove all Urinals from all public buildings, and to remove all urinals from all outdoor festivals etc.
If men dont have access to urinals, it might make them more sympathetic to issues women face with long queues for toilets at large scale events etc.
 
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Please someone ask them or start a proper campaign to remove all Urinals from all public buildings, and to remove all urinals from all outdoor festivals etc.
If men dont have access to urinals, it might make them more sympathetic to issues women face with long queues for toilets at large scale events etc.
Please god don’t get rid of urinals at festivals, the queues for the portaloos are bad enough already and that would make them so much worse
 
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Judgement due in Allison Bailey's case at 12 noon tomorrow. Cross everything.
 
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