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On top of everything else, putting pronouns on name badges singles out staff to be attacked by trolls, homophobes, thugs etc. If they see a man with Matilda on the name badge or a blue-haired woman with "they/them", of course that person is going to be targeted. Why would you do that to your staff? As some have said, it's exactly like asking someone to declare their religious or political beliefs. We don't expect people to identify themselves as Muslims or Jews, or by what way they voted in the EU referendum, and with good reason. So why have pronouns?
 
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An Irish music magazine had an article today about the decision made by the government to implement free contraception to young women but in the article they used the term "female identifying people" 🙄

It’s laughable. How you ‘identify’ has no bearing on whether you ovulate and can therefore conceive a child. Your biology determines that, not your gender belief system.
 
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Not sure if anyone has already posted Mr Menno’s latest video about Ricky Gervais vs Nish Kumar. Apologies if I’m going over old ground, been dipping in and out here so not sure if I’ve missed some posts. Anyway, I can’t link it but it’s so good, defo worth a watch. Menno has such a good way of putting his point across about trans ideology, he remains calm and above all else, he is on the side of women. I appreciate everything he is saying. This video just cements what I think about Nish Kumar, not only completely unfunny but utterly joyless, patronising and absolutely DESPERATE to be woker than woke. And he sounds deranged in the clip Menno shares. Ricky Gervais may well be a rich successful white man but he’s bloody funny. Something Nish can only dream of.
 
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i suppose it will make me a projecting judgemental bigot if I say that if that is a woman she is the ugliest woman I have ever seen in my life?
I think if more women had been more judgemental and used their critical faculties rather than 'being kind' to every Tom, Dick + Harry (literally) who used self-id to invade our spaces, we wouldn't be in our current situation.
 
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Colonisation behaviour.
Newcomers are welcomed because people are either unaware of danger or believe that by being kind can head off danger and have amicable existence. Colonisers take advantage and overrun the place with violence and misery.

women should start being more like the Sentinelese - try to invade our space and we shoot you with (metaphorical not physical) arrows until you leave.
 
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I think if more women had been more judgemental and used their critical faculties rather than 'being kind' to every Tom, Dick + Harry (literally) who used self-id to invade our spaces, we wouldn't be in our current situation.
Women 'being nice' was definitely a major reason we got here. I remember arguing with a woman on Twitter who was very pro trans. She said that she thought everyone should be able to decide who they were. I answered 'Unless they're women? In which case they have to take on what men tell them they are?'
Being nice is what gets women beaten, abused, raped and murdered in domestic relationships. Please stop being nice. You're not actually being nice, you're just giving the predators room to move.
 
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Being nice is what gets women beaten, abused, raped and murdered in domestic relationships.
I get what you’re saying but that’s just blaming the victim imo, if a man is an abuser, he will beat the duck out of his victim whether she is nice, nasty or anything in between
 
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I get what you’re saying but that’s just blaming the victim imo, if a man is an abuser, he will beat the duck out of his victim whether she is nice, nasty or anything in between
I think @Cassandra333 meant that being nice/kind makes women vulnerable and that they will excuse abusive behaviour because the perpetrator apologised or said it wouldn't happen again, yadda, yadda
 
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I think @Cassandra333 meant that being nice/kind makes women vulnerable and that they will excuse abusive behaviour because the perpetrator apologised or said it wouldn't happen again, yadda, yadda
Yes, I did mean that.

I get what you’re saying but that’s just blaming the victim imo, if a man is an abuser, he will beat the duck out of his victim whether she is nice, nasty or anything in between
I'm not saying 'Oh, you were too nice so it's your own fault'. The abuser is the person at fault, no one else. I'm saying that women are conditioned into 'being nice' (Obviously not all women). And it's that 'need' to be nice that the abuser builds on. By building on it, the abuser gets control and the abuse gets more violent and sadly, women die. How many times have you heard people say 'Why can't you just be nice?' Er...because we're being sold a fairy tale and it's abusive and dangerous.
I'm not happy that gender neutral toilets lead to an increase of 15% of women being assaulted. And you know what? I'm not going to be nice about it. I don't care if your friend is a really lovely person who would never harm anyone. I care about what opening that door leads to. So I'm not going to be nice. I'm going to tell them to get out of the Ladies.
 
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Being nice is what gets women beaten, abused, raped and murdered in domestic relationships. Please stop being nice. You're not actually being nice, you're just giving the predators room to move.
Women are murdered and abused because we are the physically weaker sex.

That’s also why women are socialised to be “nice”. Don’t anger the men. Be nice to them, and hopefully they won’t hurt you.
 
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I‘m really pleased that we are having this discussion openly on this forum.

As an outsider looking in on what I will call the wider social justice movement what has often struck me is the obvious contradiction, and outright polar opposites that exist within the movement.

Take for example a feminist who tries to shut down any discussion of say the Taliban, or a convicted grooming gang, based on perceived Islamaphobia? What kind of feminist would not be horrified at the prospect of a Radical Islamist Society ever taking power? I understand, and agree with, the argument that if a woman chooses to follow a religion and dresses to recognise this she should be free to do so without fear of harassment. However a religious society doesn’t give that choice to wear what you want. It mandates that you wear what you are told. Which must be a complete anathema to any concept of female empowerment that doesn’t involve hilarious verbal gymnastics.

And again on the trans issue. I’m a massive sports fan. Both male and female. And the current debate is about equal pay. And yet I’m supposed to support this concept and trans inclusion in sports? I would point out that when a trans athlete has dominated, be it Lia Thomas or back in the day Renee Roberts, it has always, without exception, been male to female athletes. Why never the other way round? (We know why of course, just look at the comparable times for men and women in physical sports, we just can’t say it out loud). I’m neither blind nor stupid and can see that a superb female athlete like Laura Kenny or Elaine Thompson-Herah would crush me, average Joe, at their chosen sport. But in turn they would be crushed by an elite level male athlete. The best time ever record by a women over 100m would not have made it out of the preliminary round of the mens competition at Tokyo 2020. And that time has stood for over 30 years.

If I had a limited income to spend on a subscription I see no reason whatsoever why I would spend it on the WNBA rather than the NBA. Can anyone think of a coherent argument based on sports enjoyment, which is why I pay the subscription, to be entertained, as to why I should?
 
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Totally agree. I think that this is why we need to keep pushing back that it's sex, not gender. And we have to stop being nice ;) :)
 
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Is it men's feelings that are being prioritised? Or is the perverse needs of sex pests wanting to listen to women talk about being raped?

Is there a difference?

I think if more women had been more judgemental and used their critical faculties rather than 'being kind' to every Tom, Dick + Harry (literally) who used self-id to invade our spaces, we wouldn't be in our current situation.

But to be fair, cunts with beards putting on lippie and calling themselves Tricia should never have been accepted by ANYONE - men or women. It's a bleeping farce. Let's not put all the blame on women as we are being erased enough as it is. Let's blame these absolute brow beating fuckwits who think they can pretend to have a vagina.
 
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Back in the Twitter trenches during the early years of the Terf Wars, it was always men who argued with us all more. Gay men, Hipsters and the various other woke told us that we didn't know what a woman was and they were there to tell us.

Total misogyny wrapped up in virtue signalling.
 
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An Irish music magazine had an article today about the decision made by the government to implement free contraception to young women but in the article they used the term "female identifying people" 🙄

I'd personally be up for doing an IUD placement on a trans woman 😁😷⛏
 
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There's a woman in Japan who has been getting a lot of attention on social media saying she was a maiko (junior geisha) and abused/exploited in that industry. She is being attacked by rightwingers and people sceptical of her claims but also having people try to discredit her because she once tweeted that she thinks transwomen should not use women's toilets or public baths. What do her opinions on trans people have to do with whether or not she was abused? It's painful to watch
 
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