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Billy Bragg is becoming really misogynistic, it’s so distasteful. It’s like he’s getting off having a go at feminists aka women not acting the way him, a man, thinks we should.
 
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I' m having so much fun emailing MPs asking their policies on Women's Sex Based Rights and heading it ' Defend My Sex or You Dont get My X' try it let them know we are watching them.
Me too!! The local elections are even better for me as the candidates live up the road, so I’m posting my letter through their doors! 😁
 
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I’ve just seen this on ‘sayings you love’ thread and I can’t think why it’s relevant here 🙄: “Don't piss down my back and tell me it is raining."
 
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Billy Bragg is becoming really misogynistic, it’s so distasteful. It’s like he’s getting off having a go at feminists aka women not acting the way him, a man, thinks we should.
Hmm, he always has been. I went on lots of marches in the 70s / 80s and hung out with people like him and his ilk. I really wasn’t surprised when he started spouting his misogynistic pro trans bile.
 
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Billy Bragg is becoming really misogynistic, it’s so distasteful. It’s like he’s getting off having a go at feminists aka women not acting the way him, a man, thinks we should.
Never ever liked the sanctimonious, pretentious twit
 
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Billy Bragg is becoming really misogynistic, it’s so distasteful. It’s like he’s getting off having a go at feminists aka women not acting the way him, a man, thinks we should.
He's always been an irritating lefty twit.
 
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Just leaving this here for you all.
Also it is a sad day for the trans community as the Government had chosen to exclude trans and non binary people when it comes to making conversion therapy illegal 😞
You won't win anyone over by posting Monroe Bergdorf.

As a mother, if you've seen your child struggle mentally for years, which clearly this mother did, and then they start the process of transitioning and appear much happier, of course you're going to be on board with that. No parent wants their children to be unhappy. However I would not be telling my child they were going to magically turn into a woman because my intellect simply wouldn't allow me to pretend that was the case. Live as female presenting by all means if it helps but that's as far as it goes. I look at the gobby TWAW TiMs like India Willoughby and I suspect that the unhappiness that they thought would be cured is still there but they can attack and blame us to deflect from themselves.
I shouldn't say I hate anyone but I absolutely despise IW. Horrible, bitter person who's true colours were shown on Celeb Big Brother.
 
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If my Husband came home one day and said he now wanted to identify as a Woman and wear Women's clothes and make up I wouldn't be planning girlie nights in with him I would be packing his bleeping bags and sending him on his way. I dont know how these Women stay with them.
 
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i know it’s completely irrelevant and a bit blue, given the circs, but the wording ‘identified as [a] truck recovery driver’ made me chuckle. Not a man, but a truck recovery driver!
That made me laugh too - like, he wasn't a real truck recovery driver, he just had this inexplicable feeling that he was always supposed to have been one, but instead he got assigned marine biologist at birth.
 
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If my Husband came home one day and said he now wanted to identify as a Woman and wear Women's clothes and make up I wouldn't be planning girlie nights in with him I would be packing his bleeping bags and sending him on his way. I dont know how these Women stay with them.
Yeah ☹ From the transwidow stories I have read over the past year or so, it often seems to occur once the woman is trapped by having raised a family, and / or their finances are entangled after a significant amount of time. I also think a lot of fear and embarrasment causes a rabbit-in-headlights situation where they don't know what to do. We have seen a lot of the AGP behaviour involves manipulation of emotions and controlling behaviour to make people around them say "stunning and brave, protect at all costs" etc. I can see it being really hard for some to leave. Others may also be conditioned handmaidens who buy into the ideology I suppose. I saw a video of that lady who used to be on Buzzfeed, I watched her husband's "I'm trans" intro and he sat there dressed like her, make up like her and I wonder does she actually agree or has she been conditioned to Be Kind/ShutUpPutUp? Must be hard to be a well known social media person and have to handle a public thing like that when you know most of your fan base would vilify you if you left.

That said, if my husband suddenly said he is trans or started displaying AGP behaviour I would leave because that gives me major ick and I wouldn't want to be there any more. I wouldn't be able to cope being there, but I think that's because I know my family would back me up 100%/take me in if necessary.
A lot of people don't have that safety net.
 
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I understand this argument about women's spaces and women's sports. I don't agree with it, but I understand what the argument is about.
My daughter would never use a woman's bathroom because she wouldn't feel safe at the present time in her transition. Perhaps later on she will feel able to.

Yeah this is hilarious. Gender dysphoria is real just like eating disorders are real. Do you attack people with anorexia for seeking treatment?
Is there anybody on this thread that believes gender dysphoria is real, that people with gender dysphoria should be allowed to seek treatment to live as the gender they feel they are? If not - why not? Also, does anyone on this thread actually know any trans people?
gender dysphoria is a real mental illness which impacts probably less than 1% of the people with labels. It can only be diagnosed with extensive therapy over a long period. Sadly Tavistock diagnose it in about 2 minutes and that’s if people even go there…..the rest self diagnose.

the recent example of the Tory MP who said he had GD……balls like lots of guys he gets off by dressing up as a woman and having sex with men. Rather than live openly as gay he gets married and then when caught doing other tit pulls the trans card out.
 
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Just wondering, are there any spaces purely for trans people?
Loads. For example at Edinburgh grape Crisis there are groups for only trans, only men, but none that are for only women. There are places on social media that are for only trans people, but no places, or very few secret ones, where women only are allowed. Reddit groups for women's reproductive health have to accept trans, but the whole host of groups for trans people do not have to accept anyone else. Every space, every word, everything women fought to achieve has been taken from us. Even our bloody Suffragette flag! I see the tide turning, but it is like watching the QE2 turn, very slowly inch by inch. People are waking up, because the ideology has gone too far, got too 'cocky', and the fallout will hurt genuine transsexuals and the gay /les community. The pretend gang will scurry back to the shadows.
 
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The trans movement has done so much damage to the gay rights cause. I’m always surprised and a bit horrified when LGB people drink the trans koolaid.

Nonsense like the “trans” MP and the crazy stories like the monkey rooster costume at the childrens library just drag us back into the era of “gays are perverts”. We had come so far; we were just starting to become accepted as normal people leading normal lives.

And now this. Thanks a bunch, Stonewall.

I’m furious.
 
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