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Re the political debate....

I want to vote Green....mainly because I do care about Climate issues and ruining our planet for future generations, and I am a woman and interested in women's rights and womens history. I am so disappointed that the Green Women, has been totally ruined by the stupid arguments about Trans rights. I am so torn, because I was taught that in a democracy it is important to vote and give an opinon, but what do you do when political parties cant accept some fundamental rights, eg a womans right to be a woman, and not be called 'cis' which to me is like a swear word, and totally meaningless.

Where did the word 'cis ' come from? does it stand for anything? eg....Central I rrigation S ystem?

Is some of this Gender critical stuff, related to age? And a deliberate misunderstanding between generations of women? P;art of the cult of worshiping the young and ignoring the old?



This is interesting....are they a real and credible party? But this definition of trans rights is great....why cant the labour party or Green party adopt something like this?
No only get a few thousand votes in total
 
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Thank you for this

so a cis woman is an 'on this side' woman, or a cis man is an 'on this side' man,

So a trans woman is an opposite woman? Therefore massively different to a normal 'on this side' woman?

That definition makes even less sense then!

If trans is opposite, to the on this side person, then that says that they are therefore massively different because they are on an opposite side!!


Do people realise how absurd this definition is then? If trans is opposite, then surely they are different from the normal ''on this side'' person, and should be perfectly happy to recognise the differences!!!
 
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Is some of this Gender critical stuff, related to age? And a deliberate misunderstanding between generations of women? P;art of the cult of worshiping the young and ignoring the old?
I think some of it is down to age. A lot of the women who have spoken out tend to be 40+ and we know how society treats women once they reach a certain age. It is very easy to be swept up in the TWAW crap when you're 21 and so eager to please people and scared to put a foot wrong. However, you certainly give less of a f**k when you are older.

The minute an older women speaks up, she's dismissed as a "Karen" or a washed-up, jealous old crone. Sure, we're all jealous of the males dressing up in a wig and a dress :rolleyes:
 
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This piece is such a misrepresentation - at no point do they say what the 'controversial' views are that JK holds OR anything about why some women don’t want Scotland to ‘simplify how trans people's genders are recognised’. There is absolutely nothing about women's safety concerns, the number of predatory men who want to access women only prisons or any of the other things we are concerned about. You can't call it news if you are ignoring the facts. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...a-watson-jk-rowling-baftas-2022-b2035078.html
 
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I think some of it is down to age. A lot of the women who have spoken out tend to be 40+ and we know how society treats women once they reach a certain age. It is very easy to be swept up in the TWAW crap when you're 21 and so eager to please people and scared to put a foot wrong. However, you certainly give less of a f**k when you are older.

The minute an older women speaks up, she's dismissed as a "Karen" or a washed-up, jealous old crone. Sure, we're all jealous of the males dressing up in a wig and a dress :rolleyes:
IMO there are 3 types of trans

1. Genuine transsexuals - who are usually people who have suffered terrible abuse and reject/cannot live with the 'real' them. - These poor souls are the people this entire tit show is based upon, they are being exploited by the gender creeps.

2. The Children. They started pushing this ideology in schools so as to brainwash the kids into their belief system early. ROGD is contagious and these kids who will have been brainwashed, mutilated, sterilised, along with the terrible mental health, will be the scandal of out times.

3. The AGP. Men over 35, who have watched too much sissy porn and are now turned on by the though of themselves as women. These are the guys you need to 'validate' as women so they get their euphoria/sexual high.
This has been the guiding force of gender ideology originally via the Pritzker family plus many other billionaire AGP/Tim's (Link below) - The Pritzker family are politically, very well placed to be influential. They are the people who persuaded LGB to add the T in the US. They also got together with various medical giants to push the gender tit show (think how much money they are making from this?!). Pritzker's cousin, is the governor of Chicago and they were the first state to bring in compulsory unsexed bathrooms in all state schools - funny that.

Trans is an exceptionally well funded movement. From billionaires, to the US medical industry to big US banks.


 
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IMO there are 3 types of trans

1. Genuine transsexuals - who are usually people who have suffered terrible abuse and reject/cannot live with the 'real' them. - These poor souls are the people this entire tit show is based upon, they are being exploited by the gender creeps.

2. The Children. They started pushing this ideology in schools so as to brainwash the kids into their belief system early. ROGD is contagious and these kids who will have been brainwashed, mutilated, sterilised, along with the terrible mental health, will be the scandal of out times.

3. The AGP. Men over 35, who have watched too much sissy porn and are now turned on by the though of themselves as women. These are the guys you need to 'validate' as women so they get their euphoria/sexual high.
This has been the guiding force of gender ideology originally via the Pritzker family plus many other billionaire AGP/Tim's (Link below) - The Pritzker family are politically, very well placed to be influential. They are the people who persuaded LGB to add the T in the US. They also got together with various medical giants to push the gender tit show (think how much money they are making from this?!). Pritzker's cousin, is the governor of Chicago and they were the first state to bring in compulsory unsexed bathrooms in all state schools - funny that.
I'll add 4. The Girls as a separate category. Girls who, in the past would "just" have self harmed and/or had an eating disorder. I've heard some detransitioners talk about transition as a means of deleting themselves and starting afresh. It made so much sense. These poor girls...
 
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There’s the creep who threw the milkshake at Belstaffie. Looks to me like he’s getting a chubby on at being violent to women.

 
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There’s the creep who threw the milkshake at Belstaffie. Looks to me like he’s getting a chubby on at being violent to women.

Why do they always look like this :rolleyes:

Belstaffie is a hell of a woman and won't take any of this tit, they f**ked with the wrong person here. Unfortunately for this rat-haired mess, she's not scared to stand up for herself.
 
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There’s the creep who threw the milkshake at Belstaffie. Looks to me like he’s getting a chubby on at being violent to women.

Which woman even stands like that? bleeping rooster of the walk, quite literally.
 
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Interesting headline considering the article also contains the information below. Even the reporter couldn’t carry on in the same vein as the first bit and describes it as ‘a pen’ and ‘the pen’ instead of ‘her pen’. Women have penises too, bigot!
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From the file of Things that Didn't Happen


"My very tall friend was accused last night of using the wrong toilet, because she supposedly didn’t look like a woman, with “fake boobs” etc. This was in a restaurant in St Andrews, Scotland. My friend isn’t trans. The woman accusing her was in the ladies toilet with her young child. My friend was stunned, and shocked, and really didn’t know how to react. She wishes after that she’d spoken up for trans rights on the spot more than anything else.

I’m afraid I do know transphobes, generally older women. Who won’t admit they are transphobic, but are basically TERFs. Sadly there are a lot of them out there, especially per surveys in the older generations. It’s not just about those who shout the loudest."
 
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TRAs love to tell stories about women being accosted in the toilets for appearing too “manly”.

I have never once witnessed it. Women know what women look like. Even tall ones, or butch ones.
 
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Interesting headline considering the article also contains the information below. Even the reporter couldn’t carry on in the same vein as the first bit and describes it as ‘a pen’ and ‘the pen’ instead of ‘her pen’. Women have penises too, bigot!
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No doubt that this will be recorded in the stats as a sexually motivated crime, committed by a woman. I wonder where they think that "the pen" came from? They make it sound like "she" normally carries it in her handbag. 🙄
 
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From the file of Things that Didn't Happen


"My very tall friend was accused last night of using the wrong toilet, because she supposedly didn’t look like a woman, with “fake boobs” etc. This was in a restaurant in St Andrews, Scotland. My friend isn’t trans. The woman accusing her was in the ladies toilet with her young child. My friend was stunned, and shocked, and really didn’t know how to react. She wishes after that she’d spoken up for trans rights on the spot more than anything else.

I’m afraid I do know transphobes, generally older women. Who won’t admit they are transphobic, but are basically TERFs. Sadly there are a lot of them out there, especially per surveys in the older generations. It’s not just about those who shout the loudest."

She wishes after that she’d spoken up for trans rights on the spot more than anything else.


Insert the "Sure Jan" gif here. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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She wishes after that she’d spoken up for trans rights on the spot more than anything else.

Insert the "Sure Jan" gif here. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

This post got a reply that said

"My friend ( although I’m not sure we still are) is someone like that. Always been a staunch feminist and says her concerns are about the infringement of women’s rights and safety."

This then got a reply that said "Infringement!!" along with a facepalm emoji.


So tempted to reply with "Well I suppose it is reasonable to assume that grape victims or survivors of domestic abuse don't want to encounter people that are obviously male in spaces that are meant solely for females."


I will totally get banned but it's worth it.
 
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This post got a reply that said

"My friend ( although I’m not sure we still are) is someone like that. Always been a staunch feminist and says her concerns are about the infringement of women’s rights and safety."

This then got a reply that said "Infringement!!" along with a facepalm emoji.


So tempted to reply with "Well I suppose it is reasonable to assume that grape victims or survivors of domestic abuse don't want to encounter people that are obviously male in spaces that are meant solely for females."


I will totally get banned but it's worth it.
Part of what peaked me was that absolutely NO allowances are made for women who genuinely have no problem with trans people in general but don't want male bodies in their safe spaces, yet everyone else in society is being asked to bend over backward to accommodate every ask of the trans community. There is absolutely no give and take.
 
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Part of what peaked me was that absolutely NO allowances are made for women who genuinely have no problem with trans people in general but don't want male bodies in their safe spaces, yet everyone else in society is being asked to bend over backward to accommodate every ask of the trans community. There is absolutely no give and take.
Exactly.
 
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TRAs love to tell stories about women being accosted in the toilets for appearing too “manly”.

I have never once witnessed it. Women know what women look like. Even tall ones, or butch ones.
I have actually witnessed it once years ago - large butch les friend with crewcut was accosted in the ladies by a women who asked why she was in there. She was really upset by it and wouldn’t go to the bathroom without her very feminine looking girlfriend accompanying her after that. Needless to say, she looks far more like a woman than any of these dressed up men who expect to ‘pass’.
 
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Couldn’t agree more. Does he honestly think the average labour voter on the street gives a tit about any of this? They’re worried about fuel prices, pensions, rises in cost of living, the list goes on. So out of touch!
Actually, I am a core Labour voter and I care very much. I can't worry about pensions if I don't exist.

I'll add 4. The Girls as a separate category. Girls who, in the past would "just" have self harmed and/or had an eating disorder. I've heard some detransitioners talk about transition as a means of deleting themselves and starting afresh. It made so much sense. These poor girls...
Yes, these poor girls too, I did count them as children x
 
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Actually, I am a core Labour voter and I care very much. I can't worry about pensions if I don't exist.
I agree. In fact, I think if it was explained in real terms to the average voter on the street what it would mean if every bloke who fancied it could call themselves a woman and therefore become an actual woman, I think more people would be worrying about this too. At the minute, I’d say that it’s not that the majority of people don’t care, it’s that they don’t know.
 
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