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I personally think all these people cheerleading poor research and regulation in trans healthcare are the ones who are truly anti-trans.
I so agree, medicine is all about evidence based healthcare except when it comes to trans ‘treatment’. Probably because they’re scared of what they’ll find if they start delving into what all this stuff actually does to people tbh.
 
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They are happy to do all the flag waving in but probably not so happy to pick up all the pieces when it all goes horribly wrong.
 
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They are happy to do all the flag waving in but probably not so happy to pick up all the pieces when it all goes horribly wrong.
Horrifying. This is what we want to avoid. Why can’t people be helped to accept the body they are in rather than destroying it for an idea they are not? This poor woman will be paying for the cost of this forever. If in the UK the NHS will be picking it up.
 
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Can someone show me where hate is being spread here?
Lol 🥴 what hate is being spread? No one is being doxxed or brigaded. All of the discussion is kept to this thread. Women have been so conditioned to accept trans-identifying men with no questions asked, so it must be quite surprising to see a group of women who are saying otherwise.

No one's asking anyone to participate with or read this thread if they don't like it. Same applies to any other thread, really. 99% of the posts here are pretty respectful and well-thought out.
 
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Fine I'll bring another discussion other than 'transphobia' (*sarcasm*)

How disgusting that in 2022 so many companies (including the one I work at) have machines in the bathrooms that charge £1 per tampon!? I'm not saying they should be free (I mean I am but that's another debate) but for a pound you should at least get a box/a day's worth? One pound per tampon is absolutely criminal.
 
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They are happy to do all the flag waving in but probably not so happy to pick up all the pieces when it all goes horribly wrong.
This is so sad. And that's someone who was sixteen when they transitioned - anyone even younger than that? So looking forward to this being treated as the new lobotomy for the damage it does it to the individual (let alone the damage it's doing to society and women's rights).
 
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You should get at least 3 tampons for that price, and even that would still be expensive.

Saw that comment over in forum business, hilarious. Can’t see the mods agreeing to their request somehow! It’s really quite simple if you don’t like a thread don’t read it.
 
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Will somebody think of the non-binary males! the non trans males hardly want to put their lives at risk but they are having to!
Also, see the trans man is a woman in this case to escape.

One of the points Exulansic made in a video or two was about the hormones making lifelong patients which would increase the health risks in the event of war as they would not have access to the hormones they need and that's what's happening in Ukraine now

 
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I mean obvs I care about LGBT people in Ukraine but also I really relate to this:

In a tweet, which was copied to Instagram, Eli wrote in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, “In times of war, marginalized people are always hit first. This includes queer people, especially trans people. Below is a list of organizations that are helping queer people in the Ukraine.” This is incoherent, of course. The Russian invasion has launched an indiscriminate bombing campaign which endangers all Ukrainians, regardless of identity. But I nevertheless saw this claim shared across Instagram stories countless times.

It’s understandable why. The proliferation of an ill-defined and silly version of intersectionality discourse online has made it such that every event and circumstance is instantly framed in terms of its alleged effects on marginalized groups. This isn’t a bad instinct, but systems of oppression are complex, there is not a one-size-fits-all model for how different communities are affected by those in power. The rapid, reactive nature of online discourse is antithetical to nuanced understanding. It compels the social justice-minded among us to frame all events and all circumstances through the idea that, within a complex chain of oppression, we can universally expect outcomes to be worst felt by the most socially marginalized groups. This simply does not apply to Ukraine. Ukraine has military conscription, with reservists, men, and boys obligated to stay and fight against invading forces. While Ukrainian women have been granted the right to fight in combat since 2016, and conscription has been expanded to women, the reality is still that the majority of soldiers are men and boys. The country is reported to have banned all male citizens between the ages of 18 and 60 from fleeing the country. What has any of this to do with queerness?
It's from the article 'The Narcissism of Queer Influencer Activists'
 
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Will somebody think of the non-binary males! the non trans males hardly want to put their lives at risk but they are having to!
Also, see the trans man is a woman in this case to escape.

One of the points Exulansic made in a video or two was about the hormones making lifelong patients which would increase the health risks in the event of war as they would not have access to the hormones they need and that's what's happening in Ukraine now

I mean non-binary males in particular trying to use this to get out of what the other men having to go through will probably peak people to be frank. I'm sure there are plenty of 'cis' guys who are terrified too. I don't think this will be a winning narrative with other men essentially.
 
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As another man it certainly is not. It strikes me as being particularly privileged, to use their language, that they shouldn’t have to fight but others should. And those others should also be made to feel awful if they are not 100% supportive of being dumped firmly in it.

If you really want to be stunning and brave, regardless of sex, pick up a rifle or a med kit and get your a to the front lines and defend your country. Defend the freedoms you demand, rather than hiding behind others only to berate them later.
 
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As another man it certainly is not. It strikes me as being particularly privileged, to use their language, that they shouldn’t have to fight but others should. And those others should also be made to feel awful if they are not 100% supportive of being dumped firmly in it.

If you really want to be stunning and brave, regardless of sex, pick up a rifle or a med kit and get your a to the front lines and defend your country. Defend the freedoms you demand, rather than hiding behind others only to berate them later.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, the men who are the most oppressed by this will be men with disabilities. I really have sympathy with being too scared to fight, but I'd rather they were just honest about it. Though as you said, very hypocritical to be all about rights and freedoms etc etc but not willing to fight for them.

Also, in all these stories it's all about the T, nothing about gay men and how they have to stay and how they will be treated by a Russian dictatorship.
 
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I couldn’t care less about people talking about conspiracy theories so guess what? It’s not a thread I’d ever go on. You’d think the same would go for people who don’t care for this thread instead of reading it and then complaining about it. There is less hate in this thread than some of the influencer ones. Some of those are awfully misogynistic with millions of references to fishy smells and saggy boobs etc. This thread is a group of adult, mainly pretty left wing/liberal women with concerns about female spaces and sports, erasure of female-centric language and medicating and operating on children unnecessarily. Some observations on the backwardness of the whole trans movement eg most of it is regressive BS, might seem ‘hateful’ to some people but that’s about it?!
 
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Once you've really thought about it, the trans movement is incredibly conservative and right-wing. It's anti-gay, anti-woman, pro sexist stereotypes, and a portion of the transwomen population seem to be incel type characters.
 
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And when has any truly left-wing radical civil rights movement EVER been endorsed by the police, banks, corporations the way the trans rights movement has? That’s a big clue as to the truth behind it.
 
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