Family fizz #9 Losing all their ethics when it comes to their aesthetics

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I’ve always got the feeling all those kids in particular will be the ones in their families to speak out when they get older especially Alessia Saccone Joly even though she’s only 5 I have got the feeling from her she is taking everything in around her and is traumatised but is too young to speak out and probably scared to question anything but I can see her speaking out in the future and hopefully it helps other children being exploited online.
The thing about Sienna is she’s very nice almost too nice so is easily controlled at times by her parents but I really hope as she gets older they lose that control over her and she speaks out. She’s a smart kid who hasn’t been given the chance to an education but she 100% questions things about her upbringing and family sometimes by her face you can tell but she just doesn’t say it out loud but fingers crossed when she’s older she will speak out. Hopefully these threads will all still be here so these kids can read through them incase there’s something they may of forgot or don’t fully remember all the details of they can see things discussed here.
Sienna is so nice, hopefully she does it because she realises her parents are not nice and doesnt want any other children to be used like she has. I think all of the Saccone-Joly kids will speak out, id say those parents are the worst on YouTube. When kids are young they can be easy to manipulate and exploit because they dont know any different but these parents forget that one day these kids will be grown up and its all on camera for them to see exactly what their parents done to them. Both fam fizz and saccone'jolys just seem to say its fine because of the money they have made is giving their kids a good life, but life isnt about money. And the kids will never get their childhood years back. Poor sienna has no education, no friends, its awful
 
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Just.. I’m tired of seeing his nickname, like we get it you have a boy.
 
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View attachment 1507957Just.. I’m tired of seeing his nickname, like we get it you have a boy.
I’ve seen Georgie show more love to Koa in his 2 years of being alive than I’ve seen her show to Sienna in all the years they’ve been on YouTube and anytime she shows Sienna attention saying loving things , Sienna immediately looks uncomfortable and confused and will act awkward cause it’s clear she’s not used to Georgie being like that with her and also it’s very clear Georgie reads here and will say things on camera or on Instagram to try prove a point to make us think we’re wrong. I know Koa is the youngest child and he’s only little so naturally he’s going to get a bit more attention as he depend on his parents for his needs BUT I can’t stand how they favour him because he’s a boy especially Georgie makes it incredibly obvious how obsessed she is with his gender and acts like it’s the best thing in the world and like having girls isn’t anywhere near as good in her eyes. I wonder if it’s cause of how she was raised in a cult maybe boys were seen as the leaders and better or maybe it’s cause she’s jealous of Mia being another young woman in the house so she might feel Koa isn’t competition to her whereas in her eyes her daughters are.
We get it that you have a son Georgie we get that he’s a boy you don’t need to mention it every 2 minutes.
 
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I honestly can't wait until the children of YouTubers grow up and speak out on how their parents exploited them online. It's disgusting to see how their entire livelihood is based on the content that these kids produce. And the fact that they are not being given a fair chance at succeeding in their own lives through education and a proper social life is just disgusting. A lot of these YouTuber parents are doing the exact same thing that the parents of child actors do. Just take Jeanette McCurdy, for instance, who had to wait all these years of trauma to speak out on how her mom abused her and used her for money. Children on these channels can't even consent to being exposed online and their parents will probably blow off all the money on themselves and not leave anything to the kids once YouTube dies. Idk if they don't see this, but YouTube and Instagram as social media platforms are dying and it's a lot harder to succeed on TikTok. Sienna is not gonna make it being an influencer.
A potential problem with Sienna & Mia is that they haven't regularly socialised with other children of their age, so don't really know any different, while other family vloggers tend to send their children to schools so those children do get to see that there is a life outside of vlogging.
 
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I was reading the comments on their back to school video and someone had commented that they thought sienna would do well in school as she was so intelligent and this was family fizz's reply. Apparently she never liked school
that’s Rubbish! Sienna loved school and all the old blogs I watched she came bouncing out the classroom at pick up time with a huge smile on her face saying she had a great day
 
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100% agreed. she loved school.
Exactly and we have all heard Darren say how school is a waste of time and you only need it if you plan to work for someone else and the internet is this amazing place where you can learn anything. Weve heard Mia recite this many times too.. but yeh im sure its Siennas decision🙄 like you said, she always seemed so happy when they used to vlog her coming out of school, I bet they go and delete those videos now 🤣
 
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I was reading the comments on their back to school video and someone had commented that they thought sienna would do well in school as she was so intelligent and this was family fizz's reply. Apparently she never liked school
hmmm yeah, I'm not really buying that either.
It might be a bit far fetched but I have a theory that maybe they realised that sending them to school was going to interfere with their success on YouTube because most of their viewers watch them for family content, I doubt they'd get as many viewers if it was mainly just Darren and Georgie content. And taking school out the equation means time at home, which means more content to be made and more money to be made!

I think they were brainwashed into thinking that school is a horrible place, maybe they had a bad experience there themselves and look down at it because of their own insecurities but not every day of school is going to be fantastic and amazing, I liked most lessons and learning but just didn't like the people that much, but I wouldn't be where I am today if I just quit on my first bad day.
I also think the kids have basically been brainwashed into thinking its okay because this is their job now and this is a sustainable career option for them, because like people have said, It won't last forever, and I don't know if I'd even exactly class it as an actual job really.
They could even get 'cancelled' at any time and lose their subscribers even before YouTube has even come to an end If they're not careful.
 
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I have a feeling one of the reasons why they never really got on to act for disney channel was that child labour laws required them to actually properly be home schooled/ educated by a tutor. which goes against what darren and georgie wanted for their kids. also any acting tht the kids were paid for, some of it would go into an account that the parents would not be able to access and the kids themselves would only be able to access it when a of age. which d and g would not like as they want the money now.
 
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I can’t stand the way they speak badly about going to school and putting it down as if it’s not good enough and that homeschooling produces way better smart kids in their eyes which isn’t right to say at all cause whether you go to school or you’re homeschooled receiving a good education at home they should be treated as equal and both should be respected. Sienna will be 11 next month and her handwriting , her lack of social awareness and other things she doesn’t understand when she should at her age show how neglected her education has been but they don’t care cause all they’ve used her for is to make them money on the channel.
Family freedom made a video recently about asking Jojo if he wants to remain being homeschooled or attend a secondary school and Katie and Bob spoke highly about both kinds of education they didn’t talk about bad about one to brain wash their son or make him think there’s only one good way to be educated. They even repeatedly said to him if you ever want to attend a secondary school that is absolutely ok you can tell us at any time. Katie and Bob really do come across as lovely people and I respect the way they are giving him options with education and he will be a non judgmental person respectful of others choices which is good compared to the Family Fizz kids who are brain washed to think everything Darren says is right.
Unless they have now magically got Sienna tutors for multiple subjects and she’s doing a proper school curriculum that isn’t just her doing a cheap 5 minute maths problem activity book one time then forgetting about it or doing colouring in her room or watching YouTube vlogs, only then I will believe she is getting an education.
All Sienna has been told all these years is that an education is pointless and you should just be a YouTuber cause in Darrens words “ you don’t have a boss and you get to travel the world” so obviously she’s not going to be realising how much an education would help her in life and she’s seen Mia who hasn’t gone to school all these years and that’s her big sister who she looks up to as she has no friends to play with so all she does is try hang around Mia and dress like her and be like her so she’s going to most likely follow in her footsteps.
Also Georgie in the YouTube comment saying that when Sienna went to school she couldn’t understand why you can’t talk all the time, well that’s the rules how else are you going to focus and learn things if you’re busy having a gossip or messing around not paying attention . Yeah it can be annoying cause there are times at school you want to just chat but in life there are rules for a reason and even being homeschooled you need structure and routine especially young children need it and even then when it’s school time at home you should be focused on that and not trying to have a gossip. It’s like they have their kids in a bubble and that they can do whatever they want and not have to listen to rules but if we all did that nobody would be educated or working.
Life isn’t all about going to get your nails done everyday there’s a lot more to life.
Also them saying Sienna prefers being in a safe and nurturing environment at home?
Her life is exploited online how is that safe? There are many photos and videos of her all over the Internet and god knows what weird people have had access to those photos and videos.
They have purposely put her life out there like that they haven’t protected her privacy so that’s not safe. As for nurturing yeah she’s spoiled she has clothes she gets her hair and nails done a lot and she gets fed so I’m not saying she isn’t loved but she gets left out a lot and Mia has even said before Sienna is always bored and she must be lonely at times too.
 
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Also them saying Sienna prefers being in a safe and nurturing environment at home?
Yes this! But back in CR Sienna would leave home all the time even sneak out or leave the house without telling her parents. Sneaky out without telling your parents is not safe at all Georgie. It might be a gated community but that doesn’t mean anything. Sienna probably had to sneak out because there was nothing to do at home.
 
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Don't they send both Karma and Koa to a nursery school? If they continue to send them after the summer break and they stay on in school, unfortunately, it might not take that long before they overtake Sienna in terms of knowledge and social skills.
 
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I was reading the comments on their back to school video and someone had commented that they thought sienna would do well in school as she was so intelligent and this was family fizz's reply. Apparently she never liked school
Citing ted talks as scientific evidence once again
 
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You can find Ted Talks to support most points of view. This is a link to talks about girls who have fought for the right to go to school The importance of educating girls | TED Talks
There are lots of good Ted Talks and lots of bad ones. They’re not high quality reference material.

My point is that Family Fizz (mostly Darren) rarely research beyond whatever they stumble across on YouTube. Building a house in Costa Rica? YT inspired. Seven step tap water filtering system? There’s a YT video for that. Taking their kids education into their own hands? Hey, here’s a Ted talk, should be totally fine.
 
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Citing ted talks as scientific evidence once again
There was a TEDx talk held at my college and we were all invited to apply to talk if we wanted to. There was an application form to fill out but idk how hard it was after that 🤷 but it shows that pretty much anyone can do one, even random college kids if they know how to write a decent application 😅

Obviously actual TED Talks are usually done by somewhat know people, at least in their field but TEDx talks can be done by anyone from any walk of life. Neither can be taken as scientific evidence!

I want some peer reviewed studies for support (and even then their is often a bias when it comes to publishing) not some random person stating their opinion
 
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Im pretty sure some of the food they got in that restaurant was not vegan. I mean half of Darrens plate was piled with egg noodles for a start 🤣
 
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In their new video Mia is saying that the food isn’t authentic Chinese, which is true but then she goes on to say that she could have gotten a bowl of ramen from wagamama for the same price. Not to be picky but Wagamama isn’t exactly authentic Japanese and is just another chain restaurant. I’m sure in London there are amazing actual authentic Japanese restaurants she could visit!
 
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