Completely agree. Even the Royal Family, Beckhams, Kardashians still send the children to school. Most wealthy people send their children to private school or boarding school so they get the best education possible. Without education you are much more limited to what you can achieve in life, its not all about money.
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selestia
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The guy have clearly done nothing wrong and only looked because his girlfriend told him she recognised Mia and he looked because of his girlfriend. Of course Mia didn’t know before it was commented but she zoomed in on his face and made it look like he’s some kind of pervert that look at children’s bodies and her fans are all feeding into it.
She’s literally putting a random man’s face on the internet where her thousands of fans can see and label him as a pervert or even worse. This man was going on with his day with his gf and Mia decided to post this pic that she didn’t need to or blur out his face if she wanted to post it but she didn’t. She decided to plaster this man’s face all over the internet and label him as a pervert as I said and all his friends, family and possible work place can see this and might think what is going on. It have happened with others and can happen to him now. She just doesn’t think before posting.
She’s literally putting a random man’s face on the internet where her thousands of fans can see and label him as a pervert or even worse. This man was going on with his day with his gf and Mia decided to post this pic that she didn’t need to or blur out his face if she wanted to post it but she didn’t. She decided to plaster this man’s face all over the internet and label him as a pervert as I said and all his friends, family and possible work place can see this and might think what is going on. It have happened with others and can happen to him now. She just doesn’t think before posting.
SiennaRae
Chatty Member
Obviously, the kids not receiving an education is terrible. Children deserve every opportunity possible to learn, grow and develop. But the thing I have the biggest problem with, is their attitude towards it. Mia saying that people only do their GCSEs to get a job and earn money and claiming she doesn't need to do that because she already has money is just ignorant in my opinion. Her attitude towards education is disgusting but I cant blame her because she is being brainwashed by her parents
The difference here which you can not grasp is all these social media parents that “homeschool” these children are being exploiting on the internet for money so they don’t have to get a job themselves.
In this case G&D had a YouTube channel Vegan Fitness, but wasn’t until they brought in the kids and starting breeding for YouTube the channel blew up. Until that point the kids went to school as soon as schools become an issue as schools have a duty of care with safeguarding these YouTube parents then remove the children to “homeschool”. If Mia had remaining in school she could have been thriving going out with friends, learning to drive, passing her GCSES, sitting her Alevels, applying to to Uni doing all the things Georgie missed out on but no… she’s crashing golf carts, sexting 14 year olds, making videos with her mum and stepDad as she has no real friends and the ones she did make she has been whipped away from.
There’s no excuse for Georgie to not educate her children she has a English Literature degree but since she didn’t bother to use the Education that the tax payers paid for Darren and Georgie doesn’t see the point of education now they just jump from country to country doing house tours for YouTube.
Sienna crying when Harriet left just shows she’s a child crying out for human interaction Sienna was desperate to see her and upset when she left, in all fairness she probably doesn’t really know Harriet that well but I feel Harriet and Sienna are quite like each other 2 lost souls.
Maybe you thrived at homeschooling but the majority of parents are not equipped to adequately teach their children to the levels required for passing exams in 8+ subjects at GCSEs. Most parents want to see their children succeed and not hold them back for personal gain! Which is definitely the case in the YouTube homeschoolers.
Blue_ocean
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Best selling author??! Aren't most of her books colouring based and others weren't even written by herself.
Almost insulting to actual authors who have done all their own work
Her attitude towards education is terrible, can't Imagine her subscribers will be Interested in the same childish content years down the line and she has nothing to fall back on unlike most other more grown up youtubers who have businesses/other jobs along side.
Georgie and Darren don't seem to have taught them the value of hard work and commitment, only how to lounge about in the sun without suncream.
Mia will struggle to find work when she's older with presumably little to no basic knowledge or skills.
SiennaRae
Chatty Member
Mia is getting to the age now where it’s going to be harder for her to make it as an influencer if she doesn’t have a niche. It was easier when she was younger because there aren’t so many creators that age and family fizz were at their peak so it was easy for her to get an audience from there.
From the looks of it, Family fizz aren’t getting many new followers and I doubt they will because their content is so boring. So Mia is going to be relying on getting new followers/engagement herself. That 18-24 bracket is so over saturated with girls trying to be influencers as it is so I think she’ll have a hard time because she comes off as incredibly immature and doesn’t have a super strong personality of her own
From the looks of it, Family fizz aren’t getting many new followers and I doubt they will because their content is so boring. So Mia is going to be relying on getting new followers/engagement herself. That 18-24 bracket is so over saturated with girls trying to be influencers as it is so I think she’ll have a hard time because she comes off as incredibly immature and doesn’t have a super strong personality of her own
selestia
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Attention seeking is what it is, even Darren and Georgie said so. Darren have even said it in so many videos trough out the years Mia is very attention seeking and will do dramatic stuff to get attentionWhy is Mia acting like one iced coffee is some sort of hardcore drug, she gives off the same energy as a 14 year old acting “drunk” after one Smirnoff ice
lokencrepis
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We say this... because they are not being properly educated. You can be in school and not be properly educated. You can be home schooled and not be properly educated. I like to think we're all vaguely intelligent enough to know this is a nuanced conversation. I went to 6 schools, and was very nearly homeschooled due to lack of school places. Some of those schools were crap, some were absolute godsends. Unschooling CAN be a big old excuse to not engage your children. As can sending them to school.
Mia will need qualifications to get a 'real' job or to go to university. This cannot be argued. One of my friends has just battled to get his GCSE English sorted. He's 25, a father of one. He went to mainstream school and didn't get the attention he needed. (learning difficulties) But his parents also didn't fight for him to get the attention from school/teachers/tutors that he needed. It's been hell for him. Mia hasn't even had the opportunity to take her GCSEs, never mind getting extra qualifications like Swimming Instructing or Rock Climbing or Gym Instructing. Qualifications that would aid her in life, not just getting a job. You may not have a problem with Mia not sitting her exams, but I am absolutely certain that when the youtube fame fades, Mia herself will have some issues with it. A young woman, who has an empty CV. (bar writing a book and learning Spanish... which let's be honest, all school children have written stories and attempted to learn a language, they just didn't have the addition of youtube fame to get it published.) The world is very competitive, and she cannot live life just travelling around the world with Mummy and Stepdad, with no prospects. When she realises the level that people her age are working at, emotionally, socially and academically... I have a feeling she will be rather pissed off.
turtleneck10
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I just don't know that an 11/12-year-old has the mental capability or maturity to decide to cut a parent out of their life. Her dad is legitimately a bad person, okay then. But otherwise, when she matures, she's going to regret her choices and possibly resent Georgie for supporting her decision to cut her dad out. Part of forming your identity, is knowing where you came from. It's why adopted people can struggle with knowing vs not knowing their bio parents, etc.
SiennaRae
Chatty Member
Mia would have no idea how to manage Monday because her parents don’t allow her to have access to any money now. In multiple videos where she has gotten treatments/piercings she’s called her parents to come pay for it when she’s finished. I’m not saying she should be given all her money, but I definitely think she should have a debit card with an allowance every month to help her learn the value of money and how to manage her money
Sally1993
Chatty Member
I commented on today’s vlog about them wasting money on stupid challenges and being insensitive about money in today’s difficult financial age. They think that Evian-branded water and Galaxy chocolate are ‘cheap’. It is so insensitive. I’d say Aldi water bottles and own brand chocolate were cheap. They are soooo above their station. It makes me sick how they’re so preachy about kindness yet they have such hugely inflated egos. The day they leave YouTube will be a good one.
stargirl23
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I know it’s been gifted but so shocked they actually went to a dentist
I still cant understand how Sienna turned out so polite, caring and just such a lovely person, you can really tell that she puts every other person before herself always. And the other kids are the complete opposite, especially Mia and Karma. They definitely changed the way they brought up Karma and Koa to how they did with Sienna and I have no idea why they would as she is such a lovely kid, not a bad bone in her body
teeniebopps
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I adore Sienna, she’s such a beautiful little girl. She’s so overlooked in the family, Mia is always speaking over her and what Mia says is less interesting. I feel frustrated when in certain challenges like when Mia or Sienna control the day, Mia enforces what she wants to eat/drink/buy etc on Sienna and the rules are always bent for her but Sienna has to do exactly what Mia decides.
Loved seeing Sienna in the videos with FF and Jojo. Family Fizz’s channel is a lot about Mia, she always seems to appear when the camera is turned on and be front and centre giving her opinion and having her say. Poor Sienna is often shoved out of the way and not listened to.
Loved seeing Sienna in the videos with FF and Jojo. Family Fizz’s channel is a lot about Mia, she always seems to appear when the camera is turned on and be front and centre giving her opinion and having her say. Poor Sienna is often shoved out of the way and not listened to.
wallflower01
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Long time lurker but first post!
Georgie and Darren’s parenting has gone dramatically downhill in the last few years. Before that they were living an alternative lifestyle that wasn’t for everyone, but they seemed to have their children’s best interests at heart. Now it’s anything but that. The kids have been put through so much instability that is inevitably damaging to their mental health and development. The minute they get settled somewhere they abandon everything and leave; I can imagine that must feel quite traumatising as a child.
Georgie is immature, appears jealous of her eldest daughter, often ignores Sienna, and really indulges Karma and especially Koa. She’s behaving in an inappropriate and unhinged way e.g. the twerking in public. Darren seems like a conspiracy theorist nut e.g. not using toothpaste and I don’t like the way he treats Mia.
Mia has really been ruined by her parents. She has no useful education and has been kept completely isolated. Imagine her in an international school trying to do something like an IB or A Levels - she wouldn’t be able to cope. Not saying that formal education is for everyone, but she wouldn’t even be able to manage an apprenticeship or a job. Her parents have really screwed her up with a lack of education and qualifications. She comes across as immature and poorly adjusted, which isn’t her fault, and it’s sad to see that when she’d finally begun to make friends she’s been moved away from them again. I don’t know enough about the situation with her biological dad to comment, but that also seems upsetting for her.
Sienna is such a sweet child, but she looks unhealthy and it’s terrible that her parents are basically unschooling her. Her writing etc. looks like that of a child of 5, and she’ll be 11 this year. Really she needs to be put back in either formal education or a homeschooling program right now before she gets too far behind, but of course her parents won’t do that for her. She’s often overlooked in the family.
Karma is very spoilt and hasn’t learnt to behave properly at all, which is becoming more and more evident as she gets older. She’ll probably never experience education and so these behaviours will be perpetuated and she’ll become insufferable.
Koa is clearly the most favoured by Georgie and Darren as he’s a boy, which sends an awful sexist message to the kids and the viewers. He’s going to turn out like Karma from a lack of discipline or positive parenting.
Overall I think there need to be so many more strict rules on family vloggers and what they depict/promote, because so many of them just exploit their children online. Hopefully now that they’re based back in the UK the problem of three under-18s (Mia, Sienna and Karma) being out of education will be cracked down on, but I’m doubtful as they’ll surely just jet off somewhere else the minute they get bored of the UK. It’s an unhealthy and unstable life for children as they’re not even ‘experiencing and benefitting from’ the cultures of these foreign countries, learning the languages etc. Instead they’re being dragged around the world at the whims of their parents and isolated from any good influences in their lives. No blame goes to any of the kids, they’re the ones who have to suffer the consequences of this awful parenting.
Georgie and Darren’s parenting has gone dramatically downhill in the last few years. Before that they were living an alternative lifestyle that wasn’t for everyone, but they seemed to have their children’s best interests at heart. Now it’s anything but that. The kids have been put through so much instability that is inevitably damaging to their mental health and development. The minute they get settled somewhere they abandon everything and leave; I can imagine that must feel quite traumatising as a child.
Georgie is immature, appears jealous of her eldest daughter, often ignores Sienna, and really indulges Karma and especially Koa. She’s behaving in an inappropriate and unhinged way e.g. the twerking in public. Darren seems like a conspiracy theorist nut e.g. not using toothpaste and I don’t like the way he treats Mia.
Mia has really been ruined by her parents. She has no useful education and has been kept completely isolated. Imagine her in an international school trying to do something like an IB or A Levels - she wouldn’t be able to cope. Not saying that formal education is for everyone, but she wouldn’t even be able to manage an apprenticeship or a job. Her parents have really screwed her up with a lack of education and qualifications. She comes across as immature and poorly adjusted, which isn’t her fault, and it’s sad to see that when she’d finally begun to make friends she’s been moved away from them again. I don’t know enough about the situation with her biological dad to comment, but that also seems upsetting for her.
Sienna is such a sweet child, but she looks unhealthy and it’s terrible that her parents are basically unschooling her. Her writing etc. looks like that of a child of 5, and she’ll be 11 this year. Really she needs to be put back in either formal education or a homeschooling program right now before she gets too far behind, but of course her parents won’t do that for her. She’s often overlooked in the family.
Karma is very spoilt and hasn’t learnt to behave properly at all, which is becoming more and more evident as she gets older. She’ll probably never experience education and so these behaviours will be perpetuated and she’ll become insufferable.
Koa is clearly the most favoured by Georgie and Darren as he’s a boy, which sends an awful sexist message to the kids and the viewers. He’s going to turn out like Karma from a lack of discipline or positive parenting.
Overall I think there need to be so many more strict rules on family vloggers and what they depict/promote, because so many of them just exploit their children online. Hopefully now that they’re based back in the UK the problem of three under-18s (Mia, Sienna and Karma) being out of education will be cracked down on, but I’m doubtful as they’ll surely just jet off somewhere else the minute they get bored of the UK. It’s an unhealthy and unstable life for children as they’re not even ‘experiencing and benefitting from’ the cultures of these foreign countries, learning the languages etc. Instead they’re being dragged around the world at the whims of their parents and isolated from any good influences in their lives. No blame goes to any of the kids, they’re the ones who have to suffer the consequences of this awful parenting.
account70032
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Georgie constantly letting us know she was a teen mum is getting ridiculous now. We get it you had Mia a month before you turned 17 but you’re 34 years old now so live in the present stop trying to live like you’re 17 again. You are Mia’s mother you are not her 17 year old best friend.
SiennaRae
Chatty Member
Yes!! I absolutely agree! Mia always says she wants to travel loads but is her idea of travel just go to big cities to shop?
it’s so sad that Sienna is only 10 and doesn’t have any real friends of her own age to do all those things with, like to go the cinema or bowling. She’s at the age where she should be going to birthday parties/sleepovers etc, such a shame she’s missing out on making memories with friends
I personally don’t think she’s using them for followers. Harriett seems like a genuine person in comparison to Georgie and Darren. I think she genuinely just loves her nieces and nephews and is showing them off like any Aunty would
She just seems like a very family oriented person and obviously she’s not in touch with many of her other family members