TH forfeited any rights to Arthur went he was complicit in his murder. Olivia is still his mother and should have the final say about the funeral arrangements. The Hughes family needs to back off, they have caused too many problems already.I know I sound like a broken record but I am still shocked by Th’s mother not even acknowledging that her son was a sadistic psychopath. How they can expect any say in how that little boy is buried when her son was part of the problem is beyond me.
That would be amazing! I had no idea such scheme existed. I am very upset about particularly TH sentence as it is too lenient. I think TH did everything he could to weaken Arthur and encourage ET so that in turn she could kill him with his "permission" as he couldn't bring himself to do it.Wow! Just read in the Daily Mail that Julian Knight MP is going to refer ET & TH's sentences to the Attorney Generals's "unduly lenienet sentencing scheme"
God bless that man!
Our school did well being checks. Both online by asking the child to make the self seen on google class. and also home visits where they would ask the child to come out. it wasn’t great but they would notice a child loosing weight etc. We were also contacted weekly by primary school asking if we needed anything , food, laptops stationeryThis is why free school meals are so so important, as is keeping schools open. As someone who had a difficult childhood, school dinners (which were awful at the time) were sometimes our only meal. If there had been a lockdown when we were young we would most likely have not survived. Spare a thought also for all those kids still being abused. Safeguarding and child protection in this country needs to be overhauled. There are thousands of Arthur's all around the country right now, desperate for help, but who have slipped off the radar.
No but it was still parents choice wether to send them or not.Schools were never closed to children at risk of harm, were they?
What the hell is all that? "she didnt give a 2nd thought to Arthur, taking drugs, staying in an abusive relationship" is that victim blaming I detect? Are you blaming a battered woman for staying with an abusive partner because her son died? Have you read the case on his mum? He beat her up and raped her a few times, she had defensive wounds on her body where they were obvs scrapping and she tried to fight back, grabbed the knife and stabbed him in the leg. What was she supposed to do? Let him kill her? Her and Arthur would have been fudged either way - her winding up dead and him ending up with his dad, or her ending up in prison and him ending up with his dad.Are you being serious? What kind of Mother would do that in the first place (knowing they've got a young child in their care who was relying on them)?
She obviously didn't give a second's thought to Arthur when she was was taking those drugs, staying in an abusive relationship and then killing her partner in cold blood.
I hope she feels really guilty as she should. What a pathetic excuse for a Mother. She failed that boy and contributed to his death and doesn't deserve an ounce of sympathy.
Those are hardly comparable to murder though, are they? Those circumstances would elicit sympathy and would also be completely out of her control. Murdering someone was a choice she made. Not comparable at all.
https://giphy.com/fnK0jeA8vIh2QLq3IZArthur's murder has NOTHING to do with Olivia. To suggest it has is, in my opinion, not only vile and disgusting but immoral.
He wasn’t classed as risk of harm though as ss didn’t have him flagged. In the first lockdown vulnerable children were still actively encouraged to keep children at home due to covid. I only got a phone call twice the entire first lockdown, no one would have any idea what was going on at home.Schools were never closed to children at risk of harm, were they?
I did wonder if this would happen and I think this may actually open a can of worms,Wow! Just read in the Daily Mail that Julian Knight MP is going to refer ET & TH's sentences to the Attorney Generals's "unduly lenienet sentencing scheme"
God bless that man!
I agree with your views on addiction.I don’t see how ET having a hard time in prison and being a suicide risk has anything to do with the case. Women going into prison for petty theft can have a hard time and feel they can’t cope and be suicide risks during their sentence I doubt they get any time knocked off their sentence. Also, ex heroin addict hereand victim of child abuse and child SA (my mother has never drank or taken drugs in her life), I know of couples in high reputable careers have rife hidden heroin addictions and you’d know none the wiser and their children looked after very well. We only hear of the ‘bad’ addicts where when you’re in the game yourself it’s not how it is. Addiction doesn’t discriminate nor dictate the love for your child. Olivia stabbed her partner in the leg. If not she probably would have been killed herself.
Exactly. It also wasn’t the first time she’d stabbed him as she’d also done it a few months previously when poor Arthur was present.I agree with your views on addiction.
It can happen to anyone.
But Olivia didnt just stab her partner in the leg. She stabbed him 12 times and killed him and has been convicted for manslaughter. She said she had no memory of the attack and her partner was abusive to her as well, but she wouldn't be in prison for that long if she only stabbed him in the leg
Oh god, from what I read she had stabbed him in the leg.Exactly. It also wasn’t the first time she’d stabbed him as she’d also done it a few months previously when poor Arthur was present.
The judge said she was very intelligent but also very manipulative, and had told a pack of lies on the stand.
None of this means she deserved what happened to Arthur of course, no one deserves that, but I also don’t think we should minimise the crime that she committed herself.
Oh god, don’t apologise! I believe she stabbed him in the chest multiple times, as well as the leg, so it doesn’t sound like a ‘one stab in self-defence’ thing (which would obviously be a totally different scenario).Oh god, from what I read she had stabbed him in the leg.So sorry!
So playing devils advocate - if people are happy to victim blame Olivia and ultimately hold her 'responsible' for Arthur's eventual death - why aren't they questioning the fact that Gary stayed with her? Why didn't HE leave HER? Then he wouldn't have ended up stabbed.Exactly. It also wasn’t the first time she’d stabbed him as she’d also done it a few months previously when poor Arthur was present.
The judge said she was very intelligent but also very manipulative, and had told a pack of lies on the stand.
None of this means she deserved what happened to Arthur of course, no one deserves that, but I also don’t think we should minimise the crime that she committed herself.
I’m not sure what you’re on about to be honest, I quite clearly said she didn’t deserve what happened to Arthur. But that doesn’t mean that we should excuse the crimes that she also committed herself.So playing devils advocate - if people are happy to victim blame Olivia and ultimately hold her 'responsible' for Arthur's eventual death - why aren't they questioning the fact that Gary stayed with her? Why didn't HE leave HER? Then he wouldn't have ended up stabbed.
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