“omg guys it’s fine that Nelly is traipsing around catering to the male gaze under the guise of female empowerment because LOOK! Those billboards are catering to the male gaze too! And they aren’t even pretending to be empowered about it!”Also, I don't understand where this body positivity thing has come from where you aren't 'positive' about your body unless you're happy to parade it around nude/nearly nude. I remember hearing about her doing that 'naked' catwalk thing. It feels like 'the lady doth protest too much'? I can't quite place what it is that bothers me about it. Maybe because they're all able-bodied and conventionally attractive so they have nothing material to be concerned about anyway? Or that it's used in conjunction with shilling crap on Insta? Or that if you were truly confident you wouldn't need to make such a production of it all? I'm not sure.
They were also saying Nelly's thing was no different to seeing lingerie ads in the street, but I don't think anyone is saying that's ideal either? Make it make sense, please!
Yes! That’s the thing I don’t like about it - the shrieking!I’m really trying with their podcast because they cover topics I’m interested in with decent guests but my GOODNESS the shrieking and shrill laughter over stories that aren’t funny… definitely not one for headphones
em’s logic seems to be that Nelly finds this empowering and so that’s ok. That it’s an individual thing and therefore we each do what empowers each of us.Curious, as this is a rave thread really, are there any Tattlers who agree with what Em is saying?
I’d be intrigued to have a (balanced) discussion about how this would be considered appropriate?
they are also all very upper middle class and white and speak from a place of extreme privilege, that they don’t seem to acknowledge. No doubt they attribute all their successes in life purely down to their work ethics… Em in particular because of who her father is. She was able to buy him a car I believe, for his birthday. How many 20 somethings can do that?I am also in the camp that strutting along a public road in lingerie, designed to be worn to be sexually alluring, is not empowering (to me). I’m disappointed that they are getting so strongly behind this and not aiming for the body neutrality position of having so much more to offer than what you look like. Whatever way you cut it, Nelly (and both Alex and Em) are able-bodied, straight-sized women who have not been marginalised.
I certainly wouldn’t be arguing with internet people while on that beachIt would have been fine if you hadn't spent 2 days of your holiday wasting it by getting on your high horse, Em. We all know you're from a rich family and can afford this one way or another. Just seemed bizarre to waste your holiday arguing with people just because they think differently to you?!
Look at the comments it’s gotten though. Just under 1300. That means engagement, even if the comments are negative. And ultimately engagement is money to these people.I certainly wouldn’t be arguing with internet people while on that beach
Would love to be there right now!
I know this isn't a Jeremy Clarkson thread, but I'm still angry that he didn't see ACTUAL consequences for that and not just a job loss. Someone I know actually served time in prison for a similar assault, but Clarkson gets off scott-free because he tits about on the telly for a living and writes a column full of inflammatory drivel. Then he strikes up a deal with Amazon. Shit doesn't stick to these people.She’s grown up with an opinionated entitled father, and she herself is every bit as entitled and opinionated (but ill-informed). Just as her father curated an affable, laddy image for his TV show (but then showed his ugly side when he assaulted someone at their place of work, losing his job for it),
Is this the same Nelly with the large bottom section or someone else?There have been so many really thought provoking, insightful comments under the Nelly post. All Alex and Em have done is invalidate them because they don’t align with their shallow, faux-feminist, uneducated drivel.
the underwear, as someone pointed out, caters to the male gaze.
The sphere of body inclusivity and positivity has been co-opened by largely white, middle class women with bodies that are acceptably attractive. nelly still has a slim, attractive figure.
Nelly walking around London isn’t appropriate for that reason. It isn’t empowering because she’s only able to do it because her body and her lingerie cater to the male gaze and ultimately, misogynistic ideals.
there’s nothing wrong with wanting your children to not have to see a woman’s body if it’s being sexualised. In fact I’d argue it’s healthier for children to be protected from sexualised female bodies since women’s bodies are overly sexualised and I wouldn’t want my child to internalise that view. When a woman’s body is dressed in lingerie, it is ultimately being sexualised for the male gaze.
em’s recent post in a bikini, making a jab at women wanting to protect children from sexualised female bodies, doesn’t make sense. Because bikinis aren’t sexualised in the same context that lingerie is. The whole concept of that type of underwear is that it’s sexual and to be worn as part of sex.
if Alex, Em or Nelly had a brain cell between them, they could maybe understand that. Could maybe begin to question how the beliefs they are parroting, are perhaps byproducts of a patriarchal society.
but since the trio areutter idiots They aren’t capable and resort to what amounts to bullying and name calling their own following.
The worst part is? They don’t care. Because the arguements they are embroiling themselves in, amount toengagement and all Em cares about is money. As per her rant earlier in the year because people dared to report her.
no wonder people kept reporting her. She is toxic AF and an entitled bully.
Dont forget, he verbally abused the guy too. He “suffered verbal abuse that no-one should endure” over a steak dinnerI know this isn't a Jeremy Clarkson thread, but I'm still angry that he didn't see ACTUAL consequences for that and not just a job loss. Someone I know actually served time in prison for a similar assault, but Clarkson gets off scott-free because he tits about on the telly for a living and writes a column full of inflammatory drivel. Then he strikes up a deal with Amazon. Shit doesn't stick to these people.
No wonder Emily's like that with such a role model.
All I can see when I look at her now is an Angry PotatoView attachment 1179094
Does anyone else need therapy after seeing this story?
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