What kind of Covid response would you have put in place if it had been you making the decisions? And do you not think the likes of Ellie are helping to perpetuate the ‘us vs them’ situation?
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@herozero You make some valid points regarding your concerns over the governments handling of the pandemic, and I’m sure it’s a subject that will be debated, discussed and analysed for many many years to come. It’s so complex from so many angles and I won’t even try and pretend I have any knowledge or answers.
Because of my lack of specialist knowledge I do defer to the scientists who may or may not take all economic and social factors into account, and also try to be a decent citizen and cooperate for what I perceive to be the greater good, because that’s all I feel I can do.
This doesn’t make me a sheep, it just means I’m taking what I see to be the safest option in order to prevent harm to myself, and to others. Risking lives and hospital resources because I think I know better smacks of arrogance and stupidity (to me) and is not a chance I want to take.
I feel it was the scientists job to tell us how to contain the virus, and the governments job to look after the rest. Whether or not they did a good job of that is a personal opinion.
I think our beef with Liey lies elsewhere, and in so many other places, so many issues with her and her misinformation/lies/manipulation/financial gain/dangerous health advice.
But I think you realise that.
Because of my lack of specialist knowledge I do defer to the scientists who may or may not take all economic and social factors into account, and also try to be a decent citizen and cooperate for what I perceive to be the greater good, because that’s all I feel I can do.
This doesn’t make me a sheep, it just means I’m taking what I see to be the safest option in order to prevent harm to myself, and to others. Risking lives and hospital resources because I think I know better smacks of arrogance and stupidity (to me) and is not a chance I want to take.
I feel it was the scientists job to tell us how to contain the virus, and the governments job to look after the rest. Whether or not they did a good job of that is a personal opinion.
I think our beef with Liey lies elsewhere, and in so many other places, so many issues with her and her misinformation/lies/manipulation/financial gain/dangerous health advice.
But I think you realise that.
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It does get you like that doesn’t it? I’ve had both shots and over the last few days I’ve noticed I’ve been getting some horrible aches in my low back - I fleetingly wondered if it was vaccine connected - then I punched my own face in and remembered that I’ve just spent the last week chasing a new puppy, and I’ve upped my kettle bell weights in the gym! It’s duck all to do with pharma!!!Yeh, me too. I’ve lurked and contributed on some of the earlier threads but since having my first vaccine I’ve got seriously bad anxiety due to people sharing this cunts rubbish on Instagram, unfortunately some of these people are good friends of mine. I’m glad to be able to come back and find comfort amongst those who see sense
Thankyou for taking the time to reply.
Yes it does.
I had mine this week, I had a slight rash - I wasn't worried about it but did wonder if it was from the vaccine - I too gave myself a slap, because I'd just spent 2 days in the sun and I often get slight heat rash.
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I’d say this group is totally about Ellie being a compulsive liar and zero to do with vaccine covid or “awakeness” it’s about seeing someone manipulate, lie constantly, con and basically use others for their own delusions of grandeur and ego oh and donations
.. If that irritates you then yeah this is thread .. peoples stance on vaccines is irrelevant on here there are enough forums and groups out there to debate that!
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And this. She’s now typing Covid back to front to try and fool IG. Oh Liey, have a bleeping day off, will you. Oh, what a tit I am, every day is a day off for you, isn’t it. What I meant to say was GET A bleeping JOB.
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so you want to avoid ‘toxins’ but not preventable illness or disease?
Can you explain what you mean by ‘denial of natural immunity’?
Any evidence lock downs are not effective? Any evidence masks are ‘questionable’?
you say you don’t want to discuss but I think a lot of us are here because we don’t like the spread of misinformation, so it’s hard to sit back and let you do that here.
I won’t do all your research properly for you, but to start you off here’s a meta analysis on the effectiveness of masks:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...184no95tVQ-jER-59apwyUk2l6Xz8FXMEVbISmlrWqDCI
and an attached photo of the hierarchy of evidence which I hope will help you in your future research.
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If we’re not careful, this will just turn into a debate about nut job views, arguments about mask wearing, vaccine injury, lockdown protocols....... In other words, we’re doing Liey’s bidding for her. She absolutely LOVES the division that people like her have created. Those head cases are the ones who have taken to the streets to take the piss out of people who wore masks: they’re the ones who attack the police, stand outside the BBC, New Scotland Yard etc - screaming about their Liberty......... I know, it’s bleeping laughable - they protest in droves in a lockdown to complain about their freedom........ oh the irony. I don’t march around the streets screaming at people who don’t wear masks, I don’t criticise anyone for not having vaccines, frankly, they can do their thing, I’ll quietly do mine.
However, when it comes to a so called ‘influencer’ sharing tit that is factually incorrect and bleeping dangerous, something has to give. You simply cannot use a social media platform to share misinformation and feather your own nest - it’s morally wrong.
Look at all the tit she shares about mammograms, Vit k, smear tests, sunbeds, sunscreen etc - all complete bollocks. When challenged, she simply blocks, deletes and then tells her apostles to do their own research. She has no medical qualifications whatsoever - let that sink in everyone. NONE.
Let’s just think about it, sensibly. The likes of Katie Price, Katie Hopkins - both so called influencers, but both pretty vile characters. If they told you something was safe/unsafe, you’d question it, right? If one of those two told me it was sunny, I’d open a window to bleeping check. If a random stranger on a bus told you smear tests were dangerous, you’d just brush it off - a crank.
Yet here we are, talking about Liey and her tit - the girl knows 5/8 of duck all. She’s dangerous, unpleasant and nasty. You only have to look at the way she went for the real medics. She’s a nasty piece of work.
We WILL get her, and people like her, removed from IG.
And, she’s a bleep.
The notions of "toxins" is also a load of tosh. We have kidneys and a liver. There's a book called bad science by Ben goldacre that's pretty accessible
None of this is true..... rage
None of this is true..... rage
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I appreciate you talking and looking into things. At least an open mind, which is where I personally struggle most with Ellie. When you only view one side you end up believing so many falsehoods. She is FULL of nonsense.
I absolutely agree with eating plenty of natural goods, a healthy amount of sun, being active but equally I eat treats, use sunscreen most days and believe in vaccines. I think I am overall healthy and have not visited the doctor for years thanks to decent health. WAY healthier then our Elsybels25. Mentally and physically because I have a balanced life.
Research comes in many forms - it is so dangerous to class social media alone as research. I was trying to have discussions with people early in the pandemic, I was questioning them and offering alternative sources. They told me to research more then blocked, end of. No discussion. So disappointing. I was trying to highlight other sources for them. Not just unregulated websites, that granted look quite professional, but are actually full of opinions not facts, and links to 'articles' that are published by paying and not peer reviewed.
I guess I am lucky with some friends who are doctors, and family which are in specialist fields. Including vaccines. I don't understand the intricacies, and how can anyone really if they've not studied it. Vaccines are so much more than what happens to one individual, for them and herd immunity to work, it needs mass rollout. And the whole 'Big Pharma are Bad' is frustrating. So much more goes on than making money (in which there is big money but developing drugs is not cheap), and like doctors and particularly nurses, those in the pharmaceutical world do work really hard and are invested in the health of people. Its quite depressing to see people actively go against all their hard work. They are themselves interested in making money. Andrew Wakefield is to me similar to the scientology world, but preying on people by targeting their emotions about their personal health. Vaccines really do have an exceptionally small extreme reaction, always much less than the disease/virus it is trying to combat.
We live a longer and healthier life generally, correct? Even given the shocking diets of so many people!
The C4 documentary was actually very interesting and highlighted some good points. The issue is they could go on for HOURS trying to disprove many opinions just of those Ellie posts, let alone other misinformation that gets spread.
I see our friend KieKie has a new account....
So I hate exposing covid with a passion & I was bored at work yesterday so I was just continuously reporting his posts & his account on loop & his account has gone today 
I must have reported a good few hundred times so fingers crossed Lieys will be gone if everyone can just continually report her account 
I would love to but she’s blocked me on all my accounts.
I must have reported a good few hundred times so fingers crossed Lieys will be gone if everyone can just continually report her account I would love to but she’s blocked me on all my accounts.Requested but doubt he will accept once I've been vetted by Ellie.
My mum and dad were offered a vaccine for me for mumps, they declined because they weighed up the risks based on the likely side effects. I got mumps and now am dead in one ear. I’m not pro or anti vax. I’m just telling this story as it’s more complex. If some people don’t have vaccinations they might die too. There are two sides to everything. I think what frustrates about the people on social media is they don’t listen to two sides and only listen to one side. Which is dangerous for those who don’t have the ability to critically think. It’s taking advantage of these vulnerable people which gets people’s backs up in my opinion.
He has a new public one. @nononewnormal it’s tit as usual
Yes he’s gone and he’s not happy!So I hate exposing covid with a passion & I was bored at work yesterday so I was just continuously reporting his posts & his account on loop & his account has gone today
Look up DuttyMonkey
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Wtf? That guy was pretending to be someone else. That was just donut boy?He has a new public one. @nononewnormal it’s tit as usual
Yes he’s gone and he’s not happy!
Look up DuttyMonkey
Yes! Utter knob
Yeah he’s already set up another account but On his Dutty Monkey one he said if I was talking utter shite they would have let me continue it’s only because I’m exposing the truthsHe has a new public one. @nononewnormal it’s tit as usual
Yes he’s gone and he’s not happy!
Look up DuttyMonkey
they really are deluded 
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