Ellie Grey #17 So neck deep in lies even her kids are desperate for fries!

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NotTheDailyFail

JKVD123 said:
I completely agree with both of these points. My answer to Flimflam is just stating that I don't believe it is that hard for anyone wanting to steal utilities to do so, and without too much reprisal. If they were to cancel a contract with their provider, after installing a new meter, they then effectively have no provider. All the gas and electricity are coming down the same pipes and cables. It is obviously theft and fraudulent, but I do believe plenty of people do this without any problems. The idea that we've already paid for our utilities through taxes is insane

These truther lot love calling everyone else virtue signallers at the moment. Virtue signalling at its finest:
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And one of his followers say its fake news lol. Like, giving bees some sugar is totally not fake news but also why would you fake that lol
 

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Didn’t she say she was opening a shop or something? I’m really confused how that’s going to go considering she doesn’t seem to pay for any services.
 
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vivjenfoley

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A few screenshots from the gas/ electric thread. I simply don't understand why these people won't just pay what they use.

How about I go into her grifter shed and get injected with all kinds of stuff them at the end claim it's my earth right to have the treatments and she's no legal right to charge me. #LoveAndLightBitches

And a cheeky look at Wanky Waltons telegram they're encouraging people to replace their meters too.

Here's her full reasoning...
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I’m late to the party. But Ellie’s comment “it’s called an earth cable cause it comes from the earth” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 if you take legal, parenting, medical or any other form of advice from that cretin you deserve all you get
 
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Thanks all. It's all a bit complicated for me so I will reread later. Pesky work getting in the way. 👍

Basically just because you can doesn't mean you should and doesn't make it legal. And she may well be risking her and her family's safety. Cnut.

Also I am concerned those that circumvent the system mean the rest of us pay more. Definitely makes her one of the people then...
 
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As someone that's worked alongside council tax - you can't escape council tax - this is main source of local authorities funding that doesn't come from the govt, and as the govt's pot of money that is given to councils is ever shrinking, they will become more and more focussed on collecting owed council tax. I don't think these people realise that that the council, the DWP, and other organisations can apply to courts for an "attachment to earnings" which means debts owed can be taken directly from a persons benefits & / or wages.

I am not offay (spelling) with energy suppliers but I think that what people like Ellie do, is take advantage of the fact that suppliers are not allowed to cut off energy to a property when there are children / vulnerable people living in the property. I can also imagine that unbeknown to Ellie's followers is that she has had plenty of DRO's and write offs in her time.

And I've said it before and I'll say it again - can Ellie confirm whether or not she claims child benefits??

I have absolutely NO problem with people claiming child benefit, as I know from working with vulnerable people how much of a difference it can make - however, when it's hypocrites that do not want to pay their way and tell others to do the same, and hypocrites that go on and on and on about "sovereignty" from the govt for their child's health and education, then I have a problem
 
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JKVD123 said:
I completely agree with both of these points. My answer to Flimflam is just stating that I don't believe it is that hard for anyone wanting to steal utilities to do so, and without too much reprisal. If they were to cancel a contract with their provider, after installing a new meter, they then effectively have no provider. All the gas and electricity are coming down the same pipes and cables. It is obviously theft and fraudulent, but I do believe plenty of people do this without any problems. The idea that we've already paid for our utilities through taxes is insane

These truther lot love calling everyone else virtue signallers at the moment. Virtue signalling at its finest:
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Oh yes, I have no doubt they are doing it/it can be done. I just think the way she is phrasing it as legal/their right it ridiculous as it clearly isn't legal nor their right. They aren't taking stuff that their taxes have already paid for (especially if they claim not to pay them), they are stealing resources from companies that own them which in turn is just putting up prices for legitimate people/non-scammers. They are breaking laws, and no doubt if they rent, risking their/their kids home and stability as I'm pretty sure any Landlord or housing association will take a hard stance on them meddling with things like that.

Hopefully though, with her 'business' attempts, she'll be creating herself more and more of a paper trail, and leading any companies she is scamming straight to her door. Watching her try to run a 'wellness' business that will require insurance given her wanting to do IVs, etc. will be interesting if she's going to pretend she's not paying x, y and z.
 
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JKVD123

vivjenfoley said:
The student loan you applied for? For the money you spent?
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I was reading all these comments this morning, it breaks my heart to be honest, I've no doubt a lot of these people just want to get away without paying for anything and steal their fuel, then there's the ones that are truly desperate. People who already have to make difficult choices whether they heat the house or eat, it's only going to get worse! I was listening to an energy based phone in on the radio earlier, a lady was saying she's had to start putting red diesel in her car, she didn't want to, knows the fines would be huge, but she literally has no option to get her kids to school, heartbreaking!

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And one of his followers say its fake news lol. Like, giving bees some sugar is totally not fake news but also why would you fake that lol
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I saw this 😂 "so much miss information around nowadays" you're telling me!
 
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It’s funny how when COVID vaccines were all over the news and the talk of the world, that she specialised in vaccines.
Now there is an energy crisis, she specialises in not paying energy bills.

it’s almost like she just happens to be an expert, in the most newsworthy subject, at any particular time. Isn’t it.
 
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Ultramarine

Northernoik2020 said:
I’ve got an idea - Hyde Skin and Fat social club. Who the duck wants to listen to this bleep pontificate about stealing services? duck off Liey, just concentrate your energies on the bleep shed.
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I wouldn't mind this actually happening. Would be a great, free, night out. The heckling could be on point, and of course she can't do anything about it because of free speech right!?!! I can feel my sovereign being growing with the chance to come to light at one (or more) of these talks 😂🤣
 
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PixiePomPom

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It’s energy theft and it’s a crime - section 13 of the Theft Act 1968. It’s a huge problem in the UK and all our bills are higher to accommodate those who do it.

The ‘electricity should be free’ idea is a weird one. It doesn’t ‘come from the earth’. Electricity has to be generated (wind, coal, nuclear whatever), safely transported (pylons, wires etc) and safely distributed to homes - that’s why we see those substations because they reduce the voltage to make it safer before it’s delivered to homes.

What seems to be being suggested, is just circumnavigating a complicated system… eg because we have different energy providers, the national grid etc.

So, by installing a meter yourself (legal, if you have the correct person do it), pretending you have moved (not really legit) and not answering any further enquiries, you get out of paying for it… Which sounds like fraud, funnily enough… If you do move house at some point, you may well run in to future problems too…

It’s probably ‘clever’, if you can be bothered ignoring letters, people at your door asking questions, fending off potential debt collectors etc., and also the niggling worry it might catch up with you, and it’s a prisonable offence.

The earth cable is a safety feature - in case of any electrical faults or surges it provides a low resistance path to the ground, otherwise the electricity wouldn’t have anywhere to go and if someone touched the faulty appliance or wire or whatever, they would have the full force of that electricity and possibly die. What it isn’t doing is ‘sucking up energy from the ground’ which is what seems to be the basis of this weird ‘energy is free’ idea. (My partner has a background in electrics and laughed his head off when I told him this)

It all sounds rather exhausting, and also unsafe - it’s a regulated industry - when the reps come to check your meters they are also able to assess for any obvious safety issues. I wouldn’t want to mess around with either electricity or gas, and it’s bizarre that people do…
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She’s just thick as duck.
 
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NotTheDailyFail

How's that Sunbed use ellie. That why you use filters all the time. I think everyone should embrace whatever their face looks like, I think you'd be fine without the filters babe. Just don't pretend using Sunbeds doesn't age the duck outta your skin
 

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