I wonder if the newlyweds share a bank account. Elle's main coping mechanism is spending large amounts of money. Having a newborn is stressful. She's going to want a collection of new, mom-friendly handbags, multiple pieces of jewelry with Gigi's birthstone, a postpartum wardrobe, every item ever manufactured for new moms. Plus, Elle's feet may have grown! Imagine spending tens of thousands on 'luxury' shoes that no longer fit. What a waste!
Elle Florence #18 From Joe to Rick, now married to a hick: husband at last, baguette arriving fast 🥖
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She can mould herself remember.Yeah but what 'tradwife qualities' does she bring to the table?Back when she lived with Joe, she even had a cleaner come weekly to clean a 2-bedroom apartment. A true tradwife cleans a 5-bedroom house, takes care of husband and 4 kids and has time to go to church lol
Maybe Elle thinks she didn’t get her dream life because she wasn’t following the conservative traditional values of marriage and family. Maybe Elle believes if she had sustained from sex, and not moved in with men all before marriage she could have had her dream life. She thought the baby trap would work but Eric isn’t as in the money as Chris or Joe and her even thou she got her husband she didn’t get the lifestyle she thought. She doesn’t see it’s her immaturity and selfishness that got her where she is.
Tbh, the writing was on the wall all this time. She was an insufferable Karen from the get go. Now she's just expanding her character arc
'Near-death experience' at university when she cut her hand. Being angry at a delivery driver for delivering her food late BECAUSE HE WAS IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT and having no qualms about posting such inappropriate and selfish rant online (also eating the greasy takeaway food in a hotel bed
). Going camping for a weekend and spending half the evening on her own in a tent, applying La Mer products and talking to her camera, instead of socialising with the people she came with. Pretending to be a 'local Seattle business' a month after she moved to the city and stayed in an airbnb.
Flying to Hawaii during the pandemic before vaccines were readily available. Spreading misleading information about vaccines and comparing it to Nazi medical experiments and Holocaust, also having the audacity to say that Jews who perished in Holocaust would have opposed vaccine mandates.
These are just some of the examples that show what an awful person SmElle LeCocq Grumpstrup is.
And BTW, if we go by this facebook ad, Fisherman moved in with Smelle in Dec 2021, literally a year ago and around 3 months before impregnating her
'Near-death experience' at university when she cut her hand. Being angry at a delivery driver for delivering her food late BECAUSE HE WAS IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT and having no qualms about posting such inappropriate and selfish rant online (also eating the greasy takeaway food in a hotel bed
). Going camping for a weekend and spending half the evening on her own in a tent, applying La Mer products and talking to her camera, instead of socialising with the people she came with. Pretending to be a 'local Seattle business' a month after she moved to the city and stayed in an airbnb.Flying to Hawaii during the pandemic before vaccines were readily available. Spreading misleading information about vaccines and comparing it to Nazi medical experiments and Holocaust, also having the audacity to say that Jews who perished in Holocaust would have opposed vaccine mandates.
These are just some of the examples that show what an awful person SmElle LeCocq Grumpstrup is.
And BTW, if we go by this facebook ad, Fisherman moved in with Smelle in Dec 2021, literally a year ago and around 3 months before impregnating her
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Not a fan of the mahogany red, but gosh why couldn't they just keep his "normal people" furniture instead of her "European heirlooms?" 
If that happens: I am out
!But I can totally imagine her in a large SUV bobbling her head with her Stanley quencher in her hand talking about how birth control is satan and what not
bless her fake european heart !#tradwife is just a stupid way to justify the « I am too lazy to go back to work so sahm is now my new thing »
The trouble with those sahm/tradwife accounts is that there's a fuckton of them, so she's going to have to seriously up her productivity (and production value) if she wants to monetise baby baguette. They're also super-judgey – one wrong move and you're cancelled.
This is probably her last shot at making anything of her YouTube channel since there is at least an audience for that stuff (not me!). The problem is that her life is not at all aspirational – really, who would want to be her right now? No home of her own and rooms full of cashmere and fugly bags.
I honestly can't think of anyone on social media who has had as many opportunities to succeed in life as Elle. She's clearly academically capable and she literally had the whole world made available to her. It's a damn shame that good judgement was the one thing she was never taught.
This is probably her last shot at making anything of her YouTube channel since there is at least an audience for that stuff (not me!). The problem is that her life is not at all aspirational – really, who would want to be her right now? No home of her own and rooms full of cashmere and fugly bags.
I honestly can't think of anyone on social media who has had as many opportunities to succeed in life as Elle. She's clearly academically capable and she literally had the whole world made available to her. It's a damn shame that good judgement was the one thing she was never taught.
I do think she rushed moving in with guys tbh.
Wonder what happened to his backTbh, the writing was on the wall all this time. She was an insufferable Karen from the get go. Now she's just expanding her character arc
'Near-death experience' at university when she cut her hand. Being angry at a delivery driver for delivering her food late BECAUSE HE WAS IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT and having no qualms about posting such inappropriate and selfish rant online (also eating the greasy takeaway food in a hotel bed
Flying to Hawaii during the pandemic before vaccines were readily available. Spreading misleading information about vaccines and comparing it to Nazi medical experiments and Holocaust, also having the audacity to say that Jews who perished in Holocaust would have opposed vaccine mandates.
These are just some of the examples that show what an awful person SmElle LeCocq Grumpstrup is.
And BTW, if we go by this facebook ad, Fisherman moved in with Smelle in Dec 2021, literally a year ago and around 3 months before impregnating her
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He most likely strained it carrying the dead weight that is Eleonore Florence Marie Lecocq.
She did move in too fast, she was desperate to shift her rent money towards buying more stuff. With Joe the issue was her personality in a relationship (nagging, narcissism, baby talk, selfish) and with Rick, it was thinking she could marry such a pompous, idiotic, broke loser. Now she's morphed into a radical conservative nutjob who pulled a baby trap because she was so desperate to be a married mother. She's a freak.
Asking sincerely, and depressedly, why do you guys think those channels are so huge? What do young (?) women see in them?
I think it's something different when you realized that women for the last few centuries have not had the stay at home life shoved down their throats (most have had education and career taught to them). It's not as a given that women know how to properly clean, make food from scratch,etc so I think those channels did help educate those who still wound up in that situation of being at home. I think there's lots of somewhat dim women who know they're never going to be career women but maybe learning these skills as a way to feel they mastered something?
Add in religion and they probably think it's the way to serve God. Elle just doesn't quite seem like the audience here though.
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I have never heard Elle talk about God/Faith !
I can answer from a new mom's perspective. I started watching more youtube after my first was born. There's nothing to do when you're plugged into an outlet pumping breast milk, and it's lonely. Just you and a little one. I would put on random cleaning, cooking, and mom tip videos. The algorithm finds you. Next thing you know, these videos play in the background while you're cleaning or folding laundry. It's comforting and helps pass the day. I was thankful for the time at home, but man was I happy to go back to work!
I bet Elle and Ginette are not as wealthy as they appear. If Ginette were truly loaded, Elle wouldn't have needed a mortgage for a Vancouver property. Her mother would have pulled out $1-2 million cash on a pad or townhouse or something.
I honestly wonder if Fishy made her get baptized or if they plan on having her baptized. They had a religious wedding ceremony after all. She never came off as religious to me either—nor antivaxx NOR politically conservative/libertarian—until she started seeing this man.
I'm not a mother, but I was raised in an evangelical cult where the education of girls beyond a pretty basic level was heavily discouraged and early marriage was the norm. I left in my teens, but it took me a decade or so to 'catch up' and create an independent life for myself, including getting a degree and eventually a career in law. As far as I can tell, there are two types of these sahm channels:
1. The 'aspirational' kind focussed on having a beautiful home, attractive parents, perfect children, and material wealth. Videos focused on home decor, cleaning routines, Target/grocery hauls, etc. Think Myka Stauffer before the awful situation with the little boy Huxley. I think they were somewhat religious, but not super-pushy about it and they definitely saw YouTube as a business more than anything else.
I can see how this might be attractive because the women in these videos are very much projecting the image of having it all without sacrificing their own self-care. I always assumed that this would be the route Elle would end up going if she finally managed to get hitched. Unfortunately, she doesn't have the financial resources to create a channel/lifestyle that other women would want to emulate.
2. The tradwife channels that are sort of Duggar family-esque. Large families, homesteading, living off-grid, prepping, all that stuff. Generally more overtly religious. Older female children frequently helping to raise the younger ones, generally at the expense of their own education and social development. Heavily and overtly religious, and deeply conservative politically.
Elle seems to be gravitating more towards aspects of this, maybe out of necessity, although I really can't see her with a whole haul of children. Given the way I grew up, I get why this is attractive to a certain type of woman – one that likes to think of herself as independent, but is not really cut out for the workplace. And if they were raised that way, as I was, then it's extremely difficult and scary to imagine any other kind of life.
I always imagined her being religious in her version of 'European' style – a big cathedral ceremony, with a fancy backdrop for the photos, followed by a grand reception and a Mediterranean cruise. I don't think a basic conference room with a golf club buffet was quite what she had in mind...I honestly wonder if Fishy made her get baptized or if they plan on having her baptized. They had a religious wedding ceremony after all. She never came off as religious to me either—nor antivaxx NOR politically conservative/libertarian—until she started seeing this man.
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A big part of it is the appeal of a simple, easy life. It's hard "adulting" and managing a career, dating, balancing work/life/kids/school is difficult! So watching a homemaker who spends her days baking and shopping at Target and cutting up chicken nuggets for the kids and getting Starbucks in her giant SUV is a nice break from real life.
The TradWife stuff is a bit more extreme and I don't think appeals to that many young people. Many of those influencers support/follow/share white supremacy or evangelical or far-right stuff. Pretty unappealing stuff to most people of all political stripes.
I do think this is really Elle's dream.
Apart from the religious side of it she was always destined for being at home making jewelry and cooking.
Apart from the religious side of it she was always destined for being at home making jewelry and cooking.
I would highly recommend reading Sisters in Hate. It profiles 3 women who all became super entrenched and influential in the US white nationalism movement. One of the women in particular started out as a mommy/clean eating/trad life blogger. Choice quote from an NPR article about the book:
“These women are so out there, a reader might think. That could never be me. But one of Darby's points is that many white Americans, with their more politely racist views, are closer to these white nationalist women than they'd like to acknowledge.”
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