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thecatlass

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Guess what ladies, I found out that one of my friends ALSO MATCHED with our Smelleanore on a dating app🤣 He didn't mention anything about sex (I don't think they even advanced to this stage 🤮). Elle apparently told him about the gossip sites on internet and how her haters are so jealous of her achievements, success and wealth etc 🤦🏼‍♀️ He did mention that she was looking for "SERIOUS" relationship and was ready to "settle." Our delusional 32 y.o. is desperately looking for her new Mr. Next for sure!
She's been ready to settle since she graduated university 😂

I am starting to accept that Smelle is one of those people who live in some alternative reality created in their heads and you can tell them that white is white but they will insist it's black. My grandmother was like that so I have first hand experience of dealing with a person who may not be clinically insane but it's impossible to be around them because of how they perceive the world. And it's nothing to do with political views, more how they see themselves and others. People like that don't have many friends, they are manipulative hypocrites and will always twist the story to put themselves in a favourable light.

At this point, I am convinced Smelle must genuinely believe she is a victim of harassing, jealous stalkers (in reality people who are simply critical of her and see through her lies), she doesn't have luck in love (in reality she was never a respectful partner, she always took guys for granted, put herself first), she is a perfect jewelery designer (in reality she strings cheap pearls together and leaves blobs of glue on them) etc. Overall, you can't reason with someone like that. Anything you say, they process as an attack on them. Absolutely unable to take a step back and evaluate their own actions. Everything is always somebody else's fault, everyone is always wishing them ill etc. We can write all constructive criticism we want but Smelle can't even process it in her smelly head. To her it's all just various forms of attack which she needs to fiercely defend herself from. By telling her dates that gossip threads about her exist, she is trying to come across as 'honest' and 'open', and place a message in their heads to approach all gossip about her with caution because it's going to be untrue.
 
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Heretosnoop

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Personally from seeing the messages that she's sent my friends she's a perpetual victim in life. From stalkers, unfair exes, to friends. She's always the victim. She was even a victim when my friend tried to ghost her and she lashed out on him...



These two grifters belong in Vegas
 
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Heretosnoop

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Wow! So how did they meet?
They met on an app. He later saw her on Hinge with hiking and biking photos. She made it seem like Rick wasn't much of a thing. She definitely tried to come of extremely successful

It would be so interesting to be a fly on the wall during their date. I can totes imagine Elle wearing a busty top, having the girls and her smirk on FULL display. Retelling the dramatized story she would’ve practiced in front of the mirror beforehand - how she’s overcome SO MUCH hardship flying between Vancouver, Florida, and Hawaii, and now, Seattle. Elle Lecocq strikes me as the type of person who overtakes the entire convo because she can’t get enough of herself, even with a new date to impress sitting across her.
She tires wore a busty top and skinny jeans. He thought she looked kind of granny but stuck around because she seemed very easy but dropped her when he realized she was easy with everyone
 
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Heretosnoop

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Because there are a lot of men with money in your city who are average looking enough that Elle can snag them off the dating apps and into a honeymoon phase.

Elle was smart too. She knew she wasn't NYC or San Fran hot (or young) so instead she focused on one of the better teams in a 'mid major' conference. That's Seattle.

Only flaw in her plan is these guys are smart enough to realize after a year or two that staying with her is the path to a miserable life. Joe did.
Her problem is that she is in a tech heavy city where we look up everything and everyone. My friend went out with a shady girl and from her name and college I was able to find out that she was an escort...there's nothing wrong with being an escort but she called herself an entrepreneur

Elle telling my friend she loves to travel and always wanted to live in Seattle is a bit different than "I got dumped by rickets and had to flee back to the west coast but was too ashamed to move back to B.C"
 
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Behindthescreens

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I still think Elle got dumped by him. Which, I mean, is a feat unto itself...

If she did the dumping she would NEVER have been "unwell" or gone radio silent.
I agree. There was something at the time that confirmed it for me. Maybe Rick's dad being in on it or something Rick commented at the time...I don't remember. But the summary is, for as creepy as Rick is, he knows when he has had enough. It sounded like he had gotten some advice from someone in his life that said, "look, the girl is really not good for you. You need to cut her out."

Rick would have had a handle on Elle's personality by then, so he knew what we have learned from our Seattle ladies' stories- that Elle Florence (formerly of swampland, now of Seattle) has poor boundaries, chases after men, drains them, and does not let go easily.

So what does he do? He breaks up with her publicly. It's a harsh but brilliant move that ensures that everyone knows they are no longer a couple, that keeps Elle from being able to twist the narrative to mutual friends, and allows him to make a clean, permanent break. No more tentacles from the swamp monster! "But dearETHSTSTS! No one knowwwws! Why don't we justh get back together?? I'll cuk for you (doe eyes) and you can cum in me!"
No, this time everyone knows and he can finally be free!
 
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LetThemEatLipstick

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Tbt, the birthday cake her office gave her, from THE GLITTER GRINCH WHO STOLE LUSHMAS | VLOGMAS DAY 7 (Dec 8, 2015).
I’d be mortified if I was only known around the office as the lady who adores of Chanel bags, shoes, champagne, my boyfriend’s sweet-sixteen-appropriate Audi TT, and cooking/cleaning in heels... oh I guess they threw that Lady Justice in there to make her feel like less of a vapid ditz?
 
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svdwoodsen

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I don’t want to completely divert the topic but it honestly pisses me off that scammers like Eleonore Lecocq pretend to be someone they are not to mislead people, while people who actually have those lifestyles lead a very tough professional life with many personal sacrifices. It’s particularly difficult for women out there and people like Elle do women a disservice by her misrepresentation of facts.

I worked in one of those industries with a poor work life balance in my early 20s, and know many people who have been in them for decades. It’s not just about poor work life balance, dressing professionally, and having less time for leisure. For women, it often means sacrifices, and much more so than the men in the same positions. It often means not having the time to meet a partner, not getting pregnant while you’re trying to climb up the career ladder, and potentially giving up your best childbearing years even if you wanted children. It means trying to assert yourself in a mostly male-dominated field, and being called a bitch or aggressive when a man in your position would be “demonstrating leadership.” A lot of the women in my old office were in their mid to late 30s, single, and many were disappointed at their lack of a family but expressed that they felt like it was their only option if they didn’t want to get “mommy tracked” at work. Men in the same position had no trouble with this because pregnancy and child rearing (in the vast majority of the world) fell on the women. Lots of women I knew also had health and reproductive issues from years of harassment at work and long hours by the time they were ready to take a step back and focus on themselves. Elle’s 9-to-5, Nordstrom browsing life is completely unrealistic for actual female corporate lawyers and women in similar high-pace professions and it’s so disrespectful to present herself as such when people often give up so much for those careers.
 
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LetThemEatLipstick

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#4. I can just hear her congested, bubble-in-throat voice singing it, with the little chuckle at the inside joke with Special Someone at the end of the line. Ah, memories.

@svdwoodsen Thanks for compiling the new thread title options, starting this new one, and shutting down the previous one(s)! You’re a rockstar!
 
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Llkb

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I’m not a native French speaker but have spent time in both France and French Canada (Quebec) you’re right that her French doesn’t sound France French or even Canadian French. I suspect it’s some garbled combo of Belgian French, North American Valley Girl, and made up Elle-isms. I have no doubt that given her tenuous grasp of the English language and inability to pronounce things properly, that she would do the same in French and claim “it’s my international background and experiences that make me say words a certain way.”

I don’t know why I recall this (maybe it was in a vlog or something) but I feel like she was snobby about her French accent being “European” and not Québécois at one point, and she emphasized that despite the fact they lived in Montreal for years at some point.
As native french from France 🐸 I can confirm what you just said.
Elle's french is a mix of french Belgium, french Quebec, ( can't tell for the northe American valley girl) and Elle's preciosity.
In the video when she talks to her mom abt the Xmas present, she said : tu vas casser ( break/ ruin) ta surprise. Which is more Canadian.
French from France would say: tu vas gâcher ( spoil/ruin/waste) ta surprise.
Her baby voice doesn't help too.
 
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svdwoodsen

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Just another thought on the topic, if she ends up preggo, will she even know who the baby’s father is? She’s sleeping with all her dates.
Classic Elle. She probably think it’ll be like Mamma Mia, with all the guys running after her and wanting to commit. Just like how she thought being a lawyer was like Legally Blonde and romantic relationships are the same as Hallmark romances.
 
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thecatlass

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She's insufferable. If I was around her and heard her pretentious chat, I'd need to leave the room.

I'm 100% certain her new man is a car snob. We didn't hear a peep about cars for 8 years and suddenly it's become a priority in Smelle's life.
Before SS she never liked barbecue and country music - suddenly she became a fan. Before Rickets she didn't talk about organic food and thrifting - there she was praising everything from Whole Foods and Thredup. She's a complete chameleon. Shame she can't stay like that for longer than it takes her true colors to come through and the guys dump her in a blink of an eye.
 
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svdwoodsen

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To me girl boss being silent for so long is a silent confirmation on the piping hot tea spilled here a few pages ago.
I didn't realize what a huge liar Elle Florence was until I started reading GG and here. I genuinely thought she was this successful, classy, female lawyer who found the time in her busy schedule to cook, had loving relationships, and was into fashion and ran a small business. Now I realize:
  • Her entire career woman shtick is fake (she wasn't and isn't a practicing lawyer)
  • Her business is reselling shoddy wares at a huge markup with no refunds. Some of her stuff arrived broken to customers and she wouldn't even fix it, and insisted that customers will take advantage of small businesses like hers when they asked for a repair
  • She's selfish and gold-digging and all the men have dumped her for good reasons
  • She doesn't have any hygiene standards and her food looks gross and unhealthy
  • Her face and everything she says is fake. Everything is misrepresented somehow to make her look better than she actually is (i.e.: moved to Seattle for change of scenery but actually because she got dropped by Dicky, bad root canal but actually chin implant, size extra small but can't even zip her top up)
From what we've learned since the pandemic (i.e.: scamming locals of Seattle, recent piping hot tea, etc.), she's far from classy and more of a scheming hypocrite with no morals.
 
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actuallawyer

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At first, I wondered why that was so. Like why doesn’t she get as much backlash than others for doing much worse shit? And then I realized that the answer is so much worse than the backlash Elle would get if she were a bigger Youtuber: She’s irrelevant.

She should consider herself lucky to have the bad press she does. It’s the only amount of relevancy she’s hanging on to.
 
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202leda

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I also agree that Smelle didn’t leave the articling gig voluntarily, due to the unemployment gap on her resume that followed it. It’s much more likely that she wasn’t extended an offer to stay. Not everyone that gets an articling job is given the full-time, permanent offer.
And really is this something we should fault Elle for? I’m not asking this to you specifically but everyone in general. I am definitely no fan of Elle’s and I think she is a greedy, lying moron, but I think the expectations of her career are a bit harsh. There are many people who are pushed into careers they think they should and can do, only to realize that they’re not up for the task and fail miserably at it when it’s too late to pull out. I am sure she deluded herself into thinking she was going to be a great lawyer someday, but she didn’t know how wrong for her it was until she interned at that firm...and they didn’t think she was very good either. And that’s ok!!! I’ll echo what others have said, I have a major problem with her lying about how hard she works and her job title (while she was at the MFDA in Vancouver), when really it is obvious to me she is an aspiring Stepford housewife. She isn’t a girlboss of any sort and it always triggered me when she used that title to describe herself and her channel. 🙄 And people bought into it, despite her obvious laziness and taking advantage of Joe multiple times.

Maybe this isn’t the same but I was in a prestigious graduate program myself and was told by the program to “resign” because I wasn’t doing well. It’s very dehumanizing to be told you’re just not good enough and that you should leave when most of your life you’ve believed that your good grades and hard work should get you somewhere. Sorry if my acceptance was given to me by mistake, but at the time I genuinely thought I was doing what I was meant to do.

I do work a regular job but I take pride in what I do. Maybe it isn’t as intellectual or as prestigious as my peers in my grad program but I’m a lot happier and like that I’m not stressed out all the time. Sure, I could find a better paying job but at least I don’t lie and play up my position.
 
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Juliezzz

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I wonder if Ginette is in Seattle so she can see Elle at all? Non essential border crossing into Canada is closed. So ginette could have gone from Hawaii to Vancouver just fine (going home) but then to see Elle again she may have had to fly back to Canada (needs a covid test before she is allowed in HI) and then from HI to Seattle?This way she can be close to her daughter for as long as this takes. But I am surprised they didn’t both go to Hawaii. My parents live half time on Oahu and are there until May, my sister is going for 35 days starting January 17 and bringing her dog with her.
In my mind the conversation Elle and Ginette had before G flew to Seattle was like this:

Elle was crying over the phone and complained to G how hard life is and how much online ‘bully’ she’s getting from her ‘haters’. She threw a big baby tantrum but the complaint ended with a positive note that she recently met someone over dating apps who’s rich and into cars and has six heads. G comforted Elle and offered to fly to Seattle to keep her company and also to put pressure on Mr. six heads to marry Elle soon, with a promise that she will buy Elle a new handbag to reward her for how much she’s gone through this year and how brave she has been. Little did G knew, Elle’s appetite has gone bigger. She wants a car this time. Not just any car, she wants a luxury clawsic jewel toned SUV with beige interior. A color combination that’s hard to get? No, she’s not going to settle and she HAS TO GET IT BECAUSE THATS WHAT SHE WANTS.
 
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brainybrunette

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I also wonder how many people reading these threads start out as fans of Elle (or at least not disliking her) and then realise how badly they've been duped? That's kind of what happened to me back on GG. I thought she was pretty harmless, if a bit dull, until I found out what a scammer she is.
This happened to me. In one of her WAY earlier videos, a styling video, she included these pink moccasins that I fell in LOVE with and immediately wanted to buy. I checked them out and they were like $300. I commented on her video and said I loved her stuff, but I wish she would include more affordable options to the outfits she shares. She responded - snapped at me and was really rude. I remember being very upset, because at that point I was a big fan, and then I think that took the rose-tinted glasses off for me and I start to see her for what she truly is. Now I just think she's sad. And I think her life is spiraling and she's trying to dress it up to be something it isn't.
 
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