Eamon and Bec

[Saydee]

True. They knew about oestrogen and why the medication was important. Now they are changing the narrative to "we were led to believe that cancer would never return and weren't informed about the risks of getting pregnant so soon".
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Re cancer, all we know is that all is good, scans good, mets in the liver and bones reduced, no more pain, tumour markers down. She says prognosis was bad but now miraculously good in that shorter video I shared a while ago. She doesn't like sharing about it anymore. Eamon wanted to film her in the hospital and she said no. I guess influencers like to share when it's all good and they can show how heroically they "beat" cancer. Once it gets serious, there is less fun in it. We know Bec likes to be seen as a hero and a badass.

I wonder if @Saydee knows about these two. I can't imagine her being able to stomach their nonsense.
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Bec literally has the cult glaze going on now. The mad beaming smile she has on her face is creepy. She also says a lot of words but it's nothing new. It's the same old ideology. She is indoctrinated.

Hi @LeonorG no I haven't come across this couples videos.
I take it that they are refusing treatment and heading down the alternative treatment route?

 

[Pacho]

I haven't watched Eamon and Bec in ages. I did watch the vlogs when she found out she was pregnant and I was really happy for them after what they'd been through. Really sad to hear you say the cancer is back.
In their circumstances not sure I'd want to carry on documenting my live and just focus on recovery and enjoying my family. The trouble with YouTube as a career choice means this may not be financially viable, especially if both of your careers are SM based and there's no employee safety net of sick pay, maternity pay etc

I agree. I wouldn't want to put myself out there, especially with all the estrogen dominant cancer armchair experts out there now. No matter what treatment she chooses or doesn't chose people will find issue with it. They did mention a podcast which I think would serve them better and keep their audience up with them while not having the negativity they've been experiencing

 

[LeonorG]

The infusions could be for bone strengthening. Would she admit being on maintenance chemo? Is that a thing with her type of cancer? She has said her chemo didn’t work and that’s why it came back. It could be argued she refused tamoxifen and got pregnant less than a year after having oestrogen fed breast cancer for being the reason it came back. The thing with most if not all of these ‘healing gurus’ is the fact most have had conventional treatment at some point which has treated/cured them. They conveniently don’t mention that.

Yes she said chemo didn't work and there is no other treatment other than alternative. She literally implied that there is no treatment for stage 4 cancer other than meditation and re-wiring your brain.
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Hi @LeonorG no I haven't come across this couples videos.
I take it that they are refusing treatment and heading down the alternative treatment route?

Saydee! Good to see you in this corner. I wonder if you could make some sense of this. I wanted to recommend some of their videos to you but then I don't want you to suffer through it. If you watch their podcast, you will definitely think that they have lost their minds.

They are vegan, new age, eco, bio, van lifers (I know ) with a very successful youtube channel called Eamon & Bec (over million subscribers) and now a podcast too. I only noticed them when she became diagnosed. They seem like good people to me albeit frustrating and with very different ideologies.

Some background on Bec's cancer. Diagnosed in 2021, her cancer was invasive ductal carcinoma, estrogen positive. It was believed to be stage 0 at first but then became stage 3 due to bad surgery margins (other reasons?). There was cancer all over the margins. All investigated lymph nodes were negative for cancer. Bec chose to have a lumpectomy. The doctor told her that as her cancer was not caused by a known gene, it did not warrant a mastectomy and the risk of recurrence was similar with lumpectomy and mastectomy. She received chemo and radiation. She had a couple of clear scans and then got pregnant. She must have stopped her post treatment hormonal drugs. She started to experience shoulder pain whilst deep into the pregnancy and a couple of months later is diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer with tumours in the bones and liver. The baby is delivered 6 weeks early to reduce the oestrogen in Bec's body which was causing tumours to grow rapidly. She said she wants positive vibes and she doesn't want negativity from her followers and people around her. She asked people in her environment to respect that and she asked the same of her viewers. She implied she doesn't want her life to be about cancer and doesn't want to talk about it much. And now things turned crazy if they weren't already. In their "come-back" video which informed us that she is now stage 4, she also mentioned that the metastases are reduced, she no longer has pain, and her scans are good. She said she meditates for hours and can do cartwheels again. They then talked about it a bit in their podcast. The jist of it is that as the chemo (for the original cancer) didn't work (as it returned, she says), there no longer is treatment for her and they are doing alternative stuff, mainly meditation. She mentioned "infusions" too but we don't know what those are. She again said that the scans are good and tumour markers are good. They said that they believed she is healed from stage 4 cancer.

 

[gritz]

Money ran out so they are back……

 

[holmby]

I haven't watched them in years (since the pregnancy announcement) and WTF? They left their cabin to fk off to Mexico and didn't shut the water off?! These 2 literally have more time and money than brains and that cabin is a write off! It's wild to me that two people can have it all i.e stable home in Canada, successful company, growing family and it's never good enough. Something deeply troubling about that, like what are you chasing what will it take for you to be content in life? So sad.

 

[puddleduck]

The baby is okay - Frankie Lee Fitzgerald. Born early but okay.

 

[LeonorG]

They said ( in the older vlog ) the doctor said the chance of her cancer coming back after a mastectomy was 10% and it was more or less the same if she chose a lumpectomy ( this was her second Op. I’m assuming this is alongside her taking Tamoxifen for 5/10 years. The fact they are saying their doctor told them to go and have a baby less than a year after her initial diagnosis is bollocks. I don’t believe a word of it.

I remember that. She said the doctor told her that the chance of recurrence after a lumpectomy was just above 10% and a chance of recurrence after a mastectomy was just below 10%.
Yes utter bollocks. They are trying to re-write history. Now they say that the vibe was that the cancer will never return and that the doctor told them to go live their lives. I guess Bec took that as stopping the Tamoxifen and immediately trying for a baby.
There is a new episode of their podcast. Probably more energies and alignment talk.

 

[Qwerty333]

Their "moving to Toronto" video that ends on a cliffhanger is almost at a million views in a matter of a week.

 

[Lionsden]

Sorry to hear about your sister. Oh god, so the head growth is part of it. You are right, they did not really say much about the cancer. Her hair length is exactly the same as when we saw her when she was still pregnant.

Maybe they weren't given good news and they can't bring themselves to say it out loud. But then she seems to have responded well to treatment seeing that the tumours shrunk. Hopefully she will get a few good years.

Could she be wearing a wig?

 

[LeonorG]

@LeonorG I'm stuck down this rabbit hole

Oh no. Can't wait to read your verdict. I did watch most of their cancer videos (eamon and bec channel) but skipped through the podcast episodes. I think they don't put 'cancer' in their timestamps on purpose. They know many are only interested in her cancer and would not watch the rest.

 

[Pacho]

Thanks for starting the thread. I looked for one after last weeks video.

I hope all is ok with her & the baby. I don't think the family would of rallied to have the house ready unless she was actually delivering her early. She was due like Christmas day wasn't she ?

 

[Moose123]

Yes, but.. like a lot of people online have said, they purposely used a cliffhanger about the state of their baby (many people have figured she didn’t survive due to them not posting anything about the birth at all and then going dark for 3 weeks). It’s very manipulative to let people assume your baby has died (because no normal person wouldn’t just post something as simple as.. “baby is here and we are recovering”). They are a manipulative pair.

Of course this does mean that something is wrong with Bec and, as many predicted, it must mean her cancer is back and is likely at stage 4. It was a really really bad decision to have a baby this early after cancer remission.. just like her doctors have told her. Honestly, so selfish.
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What makes you say something is wrong with Bec? Have I missed something?

 

[Pacho]

The baby is okay - Frankie Lee Fitzgerald. Born early but okay.

I was actually so relieved to see that. They've been through so much I'm so glad all is ok

 

[Lionsden]

Have you watched their wedding video ?

Nope, haven't watched them for ages. Is it worth it?

 

[LeonorG]

They look at it as a chronic condition which is correct.
People live longer with stage 4 breast cancer these days. There are more options.

 

[Pacho]

Just spotted this on Kinging-it's latest vlog.
They look really well. Hopefully they are now just taking some time out as a family.

Hopefully so. I'd say we will get a video first Sunday in Feb

 

[Qwerty333]

Any guesses to when the update will be?

 

[Pacho]

Their fan base is not happy with them at all, obviously they have every right to not be present as I’m sure what they are going through is so hard but then again the silence is just fear mongering.

I think from this Eamon wants to post but Bec isn't allowing it yet ? But I seen a comment someone said they understand now from this comment & they should out something like this on their YouTube because of the ending of the last video(a lot of people worried about the baby who thankfully seems ok)

 

[LeonorG]

My sister has liver cancer following breast cancer and died last year. And once the liver cancer spread, she had growths on her head too. It feels so close to home to watch Bec even though we have no real idea what is going on.

I don't quite understand if Becs is still having ongoing chemo or not. If the cancer has spread so much, I'm surprised she's okay just now.

Sorry to hear about your sister. Oh god, so the head growth is part of it. You are right, they did not really say much about the cancer. Her hair length is exactly the same as when we saw her when she was still pregnant.

Maybe they weren't given good news and they can't bring themselves to say it out loud. But then she seems to have responded well to treatment seeing that the tumours shrunk. Hopefully she will get a few good years.

 

[kittylola]

Have you watched their wedding video ?