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MacPishFlaps

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This might be venty so I apologise in advance. I lost my mum suddenly at the end of november and honestly I have been so busy sorting out finances I havent even had time to think about her really being gone.
She was terrible with money all her life, had undiagnosed mental health issues, would give someone her last tenner and then not pay bills, always in debt. Luckily she left my dad's name off most things and had no estate but we are still trying to figure stuff out and wait for bills to come through.
There is also massive family drama as she managed my nanna's accounts and didnt pay off a credit card for her so its accumilated lots of interest over the years. My uncle and nanna are denying the interest and saying mum spent it all. My mum was bedbound for many years and never spent a penny on herself. Nanna has massive issues with memory and has denied having a credit card but is now saying she did and gave mum money to pay it off. For context my nanna has a lot of money, she has thousands stashed around the house and the last time her house was evaluated in the late 90s it was worth 350k. So her and my uncle are saying they never trusted her with money yet my uncle never stepped in to actually manage my nannas accounts himself. Anyway they have now reported my dead mother to the police for fraud.
OMG that is awful! It sounds like your mum wasn't capable of managing her own finances and may have been taken advantage of re the credit card. I would speak to Citizens Advice and a lawyer.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your mum. I found when I lost my husband and more recently my best friend, it was the aftermath that caused the most pain.

Sending you strength x
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Thank you :) I am 48, I was 15 years and 3 months younger than my husband. My mum was 31 and had 3 young children way back in 1980 - like you say, whatever age you are, it's difficult.

I love the practical gov.uk website link too. I used to be a Civil Servant so those kind of things really useful.
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WAY is for anyone 51 and under and has thousands of members. I found it helpful to read other peoples stories and realising I wasn't alone.
 
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Grigiogirls

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I feel the same. My little cat is only just over a year old but when I imagine one day her not being here it literally fills me with dread! I have started thinking back to my child hood and the two dogs I had then as pets and miss them more than ever. If I see anything related to animals on social media like a missing dog/cat or something to do with animal abuse I just want to cry. My partner told me something the other day about a woman who had a lot of mental health problems and was on medication. She hadn't been taking her medication properly and told her brother that her dog was going to do something to her. Her brother found her dead the next day with an injury to the neck caused by the dog, the dog was cowering in the corner... obviously the dog had to get put to sleep but I found myself thinking maybe the woman provoked the dog and the poor wee thing was scared and upset in the corner. I then thought I must be an awful person because a woman has lost her life and I am more upset about the dog! I think I am just too soft when it comes to animals and love them so much.

Sorry to hear about your family dog, they really do become part of the family and I can't imagine that was easy, not saying goodbye properly. xo
Thank you for your reply! I moved in with my partner around a year ago and we got a kitten who turns one this month, I definitely think I’ve became a lot more sensitive towards animals after having my own cat. She’s a house cat and the thought of her escaping/any harm coming to her at all is enough to make me feel physically sick 😔 I did try to block out keywords on Facebook to prevent seeing stories about animal abuse etc but can’t seem to do it, if anything I see even more which has actually caused me to deactivate!
 
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CherryAcid

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Does anyone have power of attorney over your Nanna’s finances? Do you know if she has a will?
TBH if he has genuine concerns then cameras covering every room isn’t abnormal. However if he’s trying to locate her money stash’s that’s a different story.
If they want to deny credit interest then the only way I think is to file a police report as the bank would require this so again, while shit if your Mum was responsible for paying back the debt and tgere was money to cover it, it’s the only option. I know of parents who’ve had to report their kids as they are unable to pay back the debts they’ve accrued on their behalf so it’s the only way to get it written off.
Why did your Nanna have a CC in the first place if she had available cash?
If you suspect financial abuse from your uncle or that he’s controlling her finances because he’ll get what’s left I would seek advice however if he genuinely feels your Nanna isn’t capable of making financial decisions and wants to avoid her being scammed by outsiders then does she realistically need more than £50 a week?
Looking at is from an outside perspective, what your uncle is doing doesn’t sound unrealistic or u fair and could be taken as protecting his Mum because he didn’t realise your Mum had mishandled her finances, why would he have?
However it can also be seen as him being controlling to protect his own interests so I think it needs a pragmatic approach to look at what’s really happening here.
She has a will, we have a copy of it which states that everything should be shared between my uncle and mum and if one of those dies(ie my mum) her share goes to myself and my sister. My mum was never fussed about getting anything and said it would go to us either way. My uncle will just take his share and not give any to his kids or grandchildren.
I don't disagree with going to the police, it has just been the way they have gone about it. They have both said for years and years that my mum cant handle finances but have never stepped in to take over. My uncle would even give my mum his bank details to pay for holidays and stuff. So its like you are saying you dont trust her but yet you are also wanting her to carry on?
My nanna had a credit card as she wanted one to take on a trip to America. She denies all this but my sister and myself have clear memories of all this happening. Now she is saying she wanted a credit card etc. Basically my nanna(and uncle) will do anything for more money, she is also on the highest form of benefits you can get, hence why she has stashes of cash around the house. She spent 3 years wearing a neck brace because she pretended to have a bad neck.
My uncle tried to set up cameras before and my mum went mad as she said it would be a violation of my nannas privacy, he is pretty much going to see her get undressed, bathe, go to the loo etc. I think some of it is so he can see what shes doing. He wont get her one of those little alert things either and she wont pay for one.
It is a tricky situation as my nanna has memory issues but she will also make stuff up. Everyone who has ever been in her house she has accused of stealing something only for it to turn up later cos she had put it somewhere.
A lot of the thing with my uncle stems from him knowing that she has taken equity from the house and whatever is left of her estate will go on debts which will mean less money for him. It is all about the money at the end of the day. Honestly my mums side of the family is a mess.


My nanna was pretty much on her death bed a few years ago and all my uncle was bothered about was what jewellry of hers he wanted. When my other uncle was dying in ITU my nanna had to give my uncle 200 as my dying uncle had borrowed it from him and he was kicking off that he wanted the money back.
 

ChickenLicking

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I totally get this. I found it quite therapeutic and gave me something to focus on. I am not sure what age you are but I found WAY (widowed and young) really usefuI just read over their website on days I was struggling but l think they have a closed FB group you can join.

Eta: please make sure you apply for your bereavement support payment https://www.gov.uk/bereavement-support-payment
Thank you :) I am 48, I was 15 years and 3 months younger than my husband. My mum was 31 and had 3 young children way back in 1980 - like you say, whatever age you are, it's difficult.

I love the practical gov.uk website link too. I used to be a Civil Servant so those kind of things really useful.
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Love to everybody who is suffering through bereavement. Recent or not. My parents died 4 and 6 years ago and it still can ambush me when I least expect it. I miss them both so terribly.
It hits in waves doesn't it? I hadn't lost anyone significant for quite a few years now.
 

littlepup

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Hi, I know that this is an old thread but I am a regular user and didn't want to venture over to Mumsnet. My husband, whom I met when I was 24 and he 39 died suddenly this afternoon. He was 63. We have an autistic 16 year old son.
I’m so sorry to read this. We are here if you want to talk, no judgment. There is no right or wrong way to feel.

I’m sure there will be practicalities, they may be a welcome focus or overwhelming but deal with them how you feel best. People like to help, accept that it you can, but if not, don’t be railroaded. You absolutely do not have to deal with everything immediately.

Wishing you love and strength 🤍
 

UsernameBlank

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Well legally they cant go after my dad, he lives in a rented house, no car, on disability benefits and has no savings. His name isnt on any documentation for my nanna anyway. Honestly not sure what they think they are going to achieve except sever our relationship with them.
They could be looking to get the debt written off by the credit card company. Im guessing it a large amount due for them to go to all this bother?
 

Tinkerbell cat

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I feel like part of myself is missing 99% of the time and then that 1% of time when I don’t feel like that I end up feeling guilty for not feeling that. We were always together, even when she was sick, we still found ways to be together. I should have been able to save her and I don’t think I’ll ever forgive myself for not.
It’s so hard but try not to feel like that. Your sister wouldn’t want you to be feeling that way. You need to live your life in honour of her because it’s what she want. No words will stop your pain though, I remember when I lost my sister and people would say it’ll get better in time but the pains there, you just adjust and I try to live my life knowing it’s what she would want. Sending you lots of hugs xo
 

littlepup

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So I thought I would give an update to the uncle nobhead/nanna sitation. Havent heard anything back about the debts reagrding police or clearing them but nobhead has put cameras no only in my nannas living room but in her bedroom and facing her bathroom..."in case she has a fall" fucking rank. He also has told her she is only allowed to draw out 50 pounds a week. My mum was a lot of things and shit with money but she never ever withheld money from my nanna, she always encouraged her to enjoy herself with it.
Does anyone have power of attorney over your Nanna’s finances? Do you know if she has a will?
TBH if he has genuine concerns then cameras covering every room isn’t abnormal. However if he’s trying to locate her money stash’s that’s a different story.
If they want to deny credit interest then the only way I think is to file a police report as the bank would require this so again, while shit if your Mum was responsible for paying back the debt and tgere was money to cover it, it’s the only option. I know of parents who’ve had to report their kids as they are unable to pay back the debts they’ve accrued on their behalf so it’s the only way to get it written off.
Why did your Nanna have a CC in the first place if she had available cash?
If you suspect financial abuse from your uncle or that he’s controlling her finances because he’ll get what’s left I would seek advice however if he genuinely feels your Nanna isn’t capable of making financial decisions and wants to avoid her being scammed by outsiders then does she realistically need more than £50 a week?
Looking at is from an outside perspective, what your uncle is doing doesn’t sound unrealistic or u fair and could be taken as protecting his Mum because he didn’t realise your Mum had mishandled her finances, why would he have?
However it can also be seen as him being controlling to protect his own interests so I think it needs a pragmatic approach to look at what’s really happening here.
 

Upintheair83

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Hi, I know that this is an old thread but I am a regular user and didn't want to venture over to Mumsnet. My husband, whom I met when I was 24 and he 39 died suddenly this afternoon. He was 63. We have an autistic 16 year old son.
I'm so sorry to hear this and thinking of you both. If you need anything or just to come on here and vent and get your feelings out we are all here xxx
 

PumpkinKing

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My sister was 22. She, too, was “happy” and seemingly making plans for the future. I feel angry, too, sometimes because of the way it’s changed our family dynamics - including my relationship with my parents. I always hope she didn’t feel too much pain. ❤
So sorry for your loss too. I totally understand, my dads a broken man and it's so hard to see x
 

CherryAcid

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So I thought I would give an update to the uncle nobhead/nanna sitation. Havent heard anything back about the debts reagrding police or clearing them but nobhead has put cameras no only in my nannas living room but in her bedroom and facing her bathroom..."in case she has a fall" fucking rank. He also has told her she is only allowed to draw out 50 pounds a week. My mum was a lot of things and shit with money but she never ever withheld money from my nanna, she always encouraged her to enjoy herself with it.
 

GiftedNotFree

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Hi, I know that this is an old thread but I am a regular user and didn't want to venture over to Mumsnet. My husband, whom I met when I was 24 and he 39 died suddenly this afternoon. He was 63. We have an autistic 16 year old son.
I’m so sorry to read this. How awful. Please reach out for support when people offer it; be specific about how they can help / what they can do over the next weeks / months. Sending you strength. ❤‍🩹

😔😔
 

Jelly Bean

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It's 2 years today since my younger sister took her own life and I just need somewhere to dump my feelings.
I'm struggling today but at the same time I still don't feel like I've fully accepted it. It was such a big shock etc that I still can't comprehend how I'll never see her beautiful face and smile. There's still a bit of anger, how could she leave us, my dad's a broken man. I so wanted to live my life for her and tackle my own depression but the opposite has happened. I'm an unhappy mess and I'll never be the same person.
Sorry for my slight rambling, I've had a few much needed drinks. ❤
Oh you poor thing. Two years is nothing. It is no surprise you are still so sad and bewildered by it all 😢
No you won't be the same person, grief makes everything different and strange. It changes everything. I would imagine especially with your traumatic circumstances.
Your dad must rely on you a lot - which I'm sure has it's own pleasures and pain.
I hope you can get through today relatively OK, and that you have someone to help you and take care of you. x