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neroli

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Could well be an undiagnosed autistic who could plan an escape but not much more beyond that ..Maybe he was promised more support once out but his masters abandoned him. He probably believed everything he was told?
 
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Its_Me

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Yeah. They're saying its not far. Diplomatic relationships are strained....?
3.5 miles from the roundabout where he was seen, 6’2 young man could run that in 20 minutes or picked up close by and zipped over the bridge. As you say, twitter, but possible.
 
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Former_Antelopee

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UK escapee gets 15mins away from the prison, rides a bike, shops at Waitrose and sleeps on a bench.
USA escapee hides out for days, steals a car, breaks into someone’s home gets shot at but not hit, ends up stealing the gun used against him. Still on the run now with a gun with bullets.
 
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emmer_moans

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Looks as though he thought about escaping but not what to do next. Surely he'd need money and connections to support him and get out of the country - maybe he didn't think his escape would be so high profile?
He just acted like your average 21yo, not much preparation or planning, he seems to be more fantasist than international terrorist, which is a good thing but he's one to watch.
I wonder how he managed to buy food. I know nothing about prison life but I assume they surrender cards and cash when imprisoned?
 
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LadyLockdown

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His name seems to indicate Arabic rather than Iranian heritage. I wonder if he was caught in a sting operation where he was trying to sell to a high bidder and "Iran" was a taker rather than any direct link with Iran? Pure speculation on my part though, it goes without saying. But very interesting points throughout this thread.
The indépendant suggests his father is Iranian;


"Khalif, a British citizen whose father is said to be Iranian, allegedly attempted to pass on the information to a foreign power, believed to be Iran, security sources told The Independent. They allege that he sought to “graduate” into spying with the material he had obtained from the MoD."


but BBC News says Lebanese heritage on his fathers side.


"He is British and has Lebanese heritage on his father's side. His parents split up when he was young."
 
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LouBug19

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Feel like this finished before it even started. I can't believe he was only 15 mins from the prison having a jolly on a bike and talking to people! He's in court later today, think he will be put in a cat A now.
 
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Merpedy

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I’m a bit confused by the wording of the news reports. Overnight doesn’t necessarily mean that it was tonight?

the Whole security discussion around him seems a bit silly when the guy planted some fake bombs. He doesn’t sound very committed
 
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Blueblue123

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Okay, what if it's something more sinister?

We all agree that he could've gone further in the 4 days he was missing. What if escaping wasn't the motive? What did he do in the 4 days he was out?

It's unlikely he had any dangerous materials on him when leaving the prison or now he's been arrested, but who knows what he's been up to the last few days.
 
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JulieScoobyDoo

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Catching up but the early questions about why all the interest, I heard that he was on remand for offences relating to the official secrets act too. The idea he is a spy, is I think a solid one. In which case he will be long gone. he will have been over the border and out of the country by lunchtime on Wednesday. no way is he hanging around in Kingston, less than ten miles down the road
 
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LadyLockdown

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Yeah I saw that too, he said he could've easily marked someone as present when they had actually escaped. It's quite scary. They keep talking about low staffing which contributed to him escaping but I don't see how they will get people to work in prisons. There needs to be a complete overhaul but it's impossible. I wouldn't want to work with violent people with not a lot of pay.
Yeah, apparently the old school prison guards were gotten rid of because they were deemed too expensive by the government, despite the fact they were far more effective. They were replaced with teenagers (no exaggeration) who did reduced training as by that time the need for boots on the ground was desperate.
 
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BigMavis

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If he's still in the area this wasn't an external operation. I think he's probably charmed prison staff and built a rapport with some. Happens.
 
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LadyLockdown

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If he's a spy they might want him back. Inside job, spooks.
That's was the suggestion on Jeremy Vine today. Apparently the terrorism charges he was facing were for collecting data that could have been useful to Iran so they were posturing that he could have the support from the Iranian government in his escape.
 
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bunnyboo

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The way he escaped is still baffling. I recall watching clips of a border control show where they used mirrors on sticks to check under cars. Why don't prisons have them?
 
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