Dan Wheeler 8020 #5 tindersaurus, chin-asaurus, spies in the academy, do you think he saw us

[ashdlol]

 

[TalktomeGoose606]

EMAIL I RECEIVED

Morning ladies,


I'm not quite sure how we got to this position, but I would like to find a resolution with you all - it's becoming quite a drain and I can imagine the amount of energy you are all putting into this, could be directed into more productive methods for your own personal goals.

I feel context is important here: -

You all did the plan.
You all saw results. Some of you, in fact, saw amazing results. Emma and Ashleigh in particular, you were doing great. It all seems a bit extreme to be going down the road we are going down.

I'm replying to you all in one email because I am aware of the tattle forum and aware how active you all are and making tiktok videos too.

As you all know, customer service is not my speciality. I hate it in fact. I dislike the way people have to get so angry/emotional and insult people who ultimately were trying to help them.

I am aware of the disgust you have for me and that's ok. We don't need to be friends or even like each other and based on how obsessive you all are on trying to destroy my business and reputation, the feelings are mutual. However, one thing I don't want to happen is for this to continue any further and I'd like to think that you all have a purpose for making this noise and you want a solution also.

Before I go on, I feel it's important to address the claims you are making about Nicky and your reports to Trading standards.

Nicky was hired as a contractor when I made the plan. She is a fantastic therapist and she was hired to produce content for the plan, as I am not a therapist. She is no longer employed by me and I believe she is doing her own thing and I hope she continues to help people, as she's great at it. With all that said, I am not breaking the law by using the content. She hasn't been in the team for many years now and she is not listed on the site in an official capacity. I have, however, noticed her first name is mentioned on the ABOUT US page, and this is merely an old bit of copy that needs updating - which I will do today. Thank you for making me aware of this.

I think we all know that this isn't a crime, but I understand that you want to be heard and, well, I'm prepared to listen, but only on the condition we work on finding a solution and put this to bed.

Most of you have had refunds, Some of you are still asking for a refund and i'm happy to do so, but only on the condition this madness stops.

Ladies, you aren't just attacking me now. You are attacking a business that employs 17 people. That's 17 families. Well over 100 people are being personally affected by your constant attacks and I really do feel like we have gone far enough. I find it hard to believe you want to be responsible for making 17 families redundant and despite your anger towards me, you also know how much good my business does for hundreds and thousands of people.

It's a real shame I was unable to help you all personally. Genuinely, the fact that I wasn't able to help you and your experience with me or 80/20 wasn't positive, keeps me up at night. However, I am also aware that I can't help everyone.

I'm aware of the mistakes I made when communicating with you all. I'm aware that I upset some of you and for that I apologize. It was never my intention, however, I believe there is place to blame on both sides. You and I could have handled this all a lot better than it happened and I feel there's learning points for us all here - myself in particular.

I have removed myself from almost all of the business and literally just do the lives and the videos now. Educating and motivating people is where I excel. You all know this. It's the reason you all joined. However, I am very aware of my shortcomings also. I have put steps in place to ensure those shortcomings aren't in the business anymore. I have hired specific people to take the lead on customer service. I have hired external companies to facilitate the customer experience and also the customer complaints.

You all seem to have a picture formed of me, that, in all honesty is unfair. I'm not the ogar you seem to think I am. All I want to do is help people and get them into a better life position. If I could go back and redo our communication again, I would. However, I can't, but I can try to make it right so that you can move on and we can move on.

None of you know that 2 of my staff have had to seek counseling due to all this negativity. I've had to go back to the docs and seek to medication to help with the stress, 2 of my members have had PTSD attacks over the tattle posts (as their social medias were being plastered in tattle and kicked up some very deep trauma for them) and we have had many members leave due to all this.

You have made your point.

I will take the responsibility for this, but I want it to stop. For the safety of my members and staff, this has to stop. Someone could get seriously hurt and I don't think any of us want that to happen.

I see two roads ahead of us.

1. We resolve this and go our separate paths.
   1. I won't mention any of you again
   2. You stop the negative reviews, the tiktoks and the tattle posts.
2. We continue to fuss and fight and no one gets anywhere.

I'm keen on option number 1.

I'm so keen on it, in fact, I'm willing to offer you 6 a double refund. £250 to each of you. However, there are terms to this.

1. This email, the content of the email and everything in the email remains private and isn't posted online.
2. Only you 7 will get the refund. No one else.
3. The tattle posts come down (all of them) and so do the tiktok accounts - funkypegeon and jkyle (whatever they are called) and the others that have been made.
4. Once the refund has been made, you all go your own way and leave my business and me alone.

I feel this is a very fair offer. It's an olive branch that I hope is received positively.

If this email is posted online, by any of you, and you decide to reject my offer, then this will be the last opportunity for resolution from me. I really hope this doesn't happen, however, as I'm keen for us all to move ahead positively.

I'm not sure getting into "who's right and who's wrong' replies will be productive. I'll take responsibility and once again, apologize for how this was handled.
So if you would like to take this offer up, please just reply if you'd like the refund or not, and if so, I'll get my lawyer to draw up a 1 page agreement for you to sign, agreeing to the above terms. Payment will be made as soon as I receive the signed agreement. I'm confident we can get this done by the end of the week.

Thanks for your time and I hope we can move ahead positively.

Regards
Daniel Wheeler

bleeping hell, that was long winded, and embellished as duck! Bribary? Yeah, he'd love to shut us up wouldn't he? Thatbwas just a load of "not my fault, I'm a victim, you're nasty"

 

[ginge2804]

I’m not sure why he’s trying to blame all of us for him having to be put on medication. He openly admitted his bipolar is unmedicated.. he always should have been on medication anyway

 

[mrsbeesting]

View attachment 749908

This has just made my day!

 

[ashdlol]

Need a name for thread 6 since I chose option 2 because I am not responsible for anyone only myself xx

 

[smb]

Soooo...he wants to pay you all off?!

I'm actually a bit insulted he thinks he should buy our silence.
I'm going to resend my request for a refund though because trading standards doesn't give a tit whether dw agrees or not

 

[ginge2804]

‘Seems like your all only interested in abuse’

Since your reading here wheeler, let me just say:

No, we want justice for Emma and all the other people who have been threatened and verbally abused by you and your team, and to prevent you from having a platform to continue to threaten and abuse anyone else in the future who may dare to disagree with you.

 

[smb]

I'm actually a bit insulted he thinks he should buy our silence.
I'm going to resend my request for a refund though because trading standards doesn't give a tit whether dw agrees or not

** could not should

 

[TalktomeGoose606]

Plus, refunds are made non conditionally. That wasn't an offer of a refund! He wants a friggin NDA attached to it.. duck that!

 

[missypl]

View attachment 749908

I can believe he wrote that one but someone else definitely wrote the first

 

[ashdlol]

I can believe he wrote that one but someone else definitely wrote the first

Yip definitely xx unfortunately he responded to my reply and fucked it all up again so

into the thick of it we go xxx

 

[Opalfruit8]

Dan wheeler #6: buying the silence, supporting the violence

 

[missypl]

2 of his heads of the arse licking department have gone and liked that pitiful post now lol bless ‘em

 

[Alfie1234]

This man makes me so bleeping angry! How dare he try to buy silence? How dare he think that money is all people care about? How dare he think that endorsing what Dan and Carla did, as his employees, is okay? How dare he think that driving a mentally unstable woman to hospital is okay? How dare he think that devoting an entire live to trashing Emma and her reputation is okay and not a single public acknowledgement or apology for any of it. Just buy your silence with the help of his imaginary lawyers that he seems to have on speed dial.

bleeping own it all you pathetic excuse of a man, the decent thing is to acknowledge it, apologise for it and make sure it never, ever happens again. Your lies and your crappy behaviour have caught up with you because you know you’ve done this for years, right back to the poor 365 women, but there was nowhere for people to collectively share their experiences and now there is. You briefly seemed to get it when you lost your business, your home and your wife, you admitted it was you, but a little TikTok success and that humbleness is gone and the bleeping ego is back and you are worse than ever. So many people (not just women!) hurt by you, so many and you just want to throw a bleeping pity party!

 

[shocktiludrop]

EMAIL I RECEIVED

Morning ladies,


I'm not quite sure how we got to this position, but I would like to find a resolution with you all - it's becoming quite a drain and I can imagine the amount of energy you are all putting into this, could be directed into more productive methods for your own personal goals.

I feel context is important here: -

You all did the plan.
You all saw results. Some of you, in fact, saw amazing results. Emma and Ashleigh in particular, you were doing great. It all seems a bit extreme to be going down the road we are going down.

I'm replying to you all in one email because I am aware of the tattle forum and aware how active you all are and making tiktok videos too.

As you all know, customer service is not my speciality. I hate it in fact. I dislike the way people have to get so angry/emotional and insult people who ultimately were trying to help them.

I am aware of the disgust you have for me and that's ok. We don't need to be friends or even like each other and based on how obsessive you all are on trying to destroy my business and reputation, the feelings are mutual. However, one thing I don't want to happen is for this to continue any further and I'd like to think that you all have a purpose for making this noise and you want a solution also.

Before I go on, I feel it's important to address the claims you are making about Nicky and your reports to Trading standards.

Nicky was hired as a contractor when I made the plan. She is a fantastic therapist and she was hired to produce content for the plan, as I am not a therapist. She is no longer employed by me and I believe she is doing her own thing and I hope she continues to help people, as she's great at it. With all that said, I am not breaking the law by using the content. She hasn't been in the team for many years now and she is not listed on the site in an official capacity. I have, however, noticed her first name is mentioned on the ABOUT US page, and this is merely an old bit of copy that needs updating - which I will do today. Thank you for making me aware of this.

I think we all know that this isn't a crime, but I understand that you want to be heard and, well, I'm prepared to listen, but only on the condition we work on finding a solution and put this to bed.

Most of you have had refunds, Some of you are still asking for a refund and i'm happy to do so, but only on the condition this madness stops.

Ladies, you aren't just attacking me now. You are attacking a business that employs 17 people. That's 17 families. Well over 100 people are being personally affected by your constant attacks and I really do feel like we have gone far enough. I find it hard to believe you want to be responsible for making 17 families redundant and despite your anger towards me, you also know how much good my business does for hundreds and thousands of people.

It's a real shame I was unable to help you all personally. Genuinely, the fact that I wasn't able to help you and your experience with me or 80/20 wasn't positive, keeps me up at night. However, I am also aware that I can't help everyone.

I'm aware of the mistakes I made when communicating with you all. I'm aware that I upset some of you and for that I apologize. It was never my intention, however, I believe there is place to blame on both sides. You and I could have handled this all a lot better than it happened and I feel there's learning points for us all here - myself in particular.

I have removed myself from almost all of the business and literally just do the lives and the videos now. Educating and motivating people is where I excel. You all know this. It's the reason you all joined. However, I am very aware of my shortcomings also. I have put steps in place to ensure those shortcomings aren't in the business anymore. I have hired specific people to take the lead on customer service. I have hired external companies to facilitate the customer experience and also the customer complaints.

You all seem to have a picture formed of me, that, in all honesty is unfair. I'm not the ogar you seem to think I am. All I want to do is help people and get them into a better life position. If I could go back and redo our communication again, I would. However, I can't, but I can try to make it right so that you can move on and we can move on.

None of you know that 2 of my staff have had to seek counseling due to all this negativity. I've had to go back to the docs and seek to medication to help with the stress, 2 of my members have had PTSD attacks over the tattle posts (as their social medias were being plastered in tattle and kicked up some very deep trauma for them) and we have had many members leave due to all this.

You have made your point.

I will take the responsibility for this, but I want it to stop. For the safety of my members and staff, this has to stop. Someone could get seriously hurt and I don't think any of us want that to happen.

I see two roads ahead of us.

1. We resolve this and go our separate paths.
   1. I won't mention any of you again
   2. You stop the negative reviews, the tiktoks and the tattle posts.
2. We continue to fuss and fight and no one gets anywhere.

I'm keen on option number 1.

I'm so keen on it, in fact, I'm willing to offer you 6 a double refund. £250 to each of you. However, there are terms to this.

1. This email, the content of the email and everything in the email remains private and isn't posted online.
2. Only you 7 will get the refund. No one else.
3. The tattle posts come down (all of them) and so do the tiktok accounts - funkypegeon and jkyle (whatever they are called) and the others that have been made.
4. Once the refund has been made, you all go your own way and leave my business and me alone.

I feel this is a very fair offer. It's an olive branch that I hope is received positively.

If this email is posted online, by any of you, and you decide to reject my offer, then this will be the last opportunity for resolution from me. I really hope this doesn't happen, however, as I'm keen for us all to move ahead positively.

I'm not sure getting into "who's right and who's wrong' replies will be productive. I'll take responsibility and once again, apologize for how this was handled.
So if you would like to take this offer up, please just reply if you'd like the refund or not, and if so, I'll get my lawyer to draw up a 1 page agreement for you to sign, agreeing to the above terms. Payment will be made as soon as I receive the signed agreement. I'm confident we can get this done by the end of the week.

Thanks for your time and I hope we can move ahead positively.

Regards
Daniel Wheeler

See it was looking quite reasonable, even professional, until he accuses people of being responsible for MH issues and PTSD. This is actually a really common trait of a compulsive liar, when they get caught out, threaten people by saying they’ve triggered a mental health episode. What about being outed and threatened with being beaten? Nah, I don’t like it one bit. It’s just not right.

 

[Louisianna]

Dan wheeler: bribery and blackmail, the 80/20 way

 

[ashdlol]

Can our head of tattle threads plz do their job we need a new name and recap x plz thank you head of Trolly cunts

 

[TalktomeGoose606]

This man makes me so bleeping angry! How dare he try to buy silence? How dare he think that money is all people care about? How dare he think that endorsing what Dan and Carla did, as his employees, is okay? How dare he think that driving a mentally unstable woman to hospital is okay? How dare he think that devoting an entire live to trashing Emma and her reputation is okay and not a single public acknowledgement or apology for any of it. Just buy your silence with the help of his imaginary lawyers that he seems to have on speed dial.

bleeping own it all you pathetic excuse of a man, the decent thing is to acknowledge it, apologise for it and make sure it never, ever happens again. Your lies and your crappy behaviour have caught up with you because you know you’ve done this for years, right back to the poor 365 women, but there was nowhere for people to collectively share their experiences and now there is. You briefly seemed to get it when you lost your business, your home and your wife, you admitted it was you, but a little TikTok success and that humbleness is gone and the bleeping ego is back and you are worse than ever. So many people (not just women!) hurt by you, so many and you just want to throw a bleeping pity party!

Amen to this!!

 

[Potatocake]

Does anyone have academy numbers today ?

654 in the Academy right now

 

[Opalfruit8]

This man makes me so bleeping angry! How dare he try to buy silence? How dare he think that money is all people care about? How dare he think that endorsing what Dan and Carla did, as his employees, is okay? How dare he think that driving a mentally unstable woman to hospital is okay? How dare he think that devoting an entire live to trashing Emma and her reputation is okay and not a single public acknowledgement or apology for any of it. Just buy your silence with the help of his imaginary lawyers that he seems to have on speed dial.

bleeping own it all you pathetic excuse of a man, the decent thing is to acknowledge it, apologise for it and make sure it never, ever happens again. Your lies and your crappy behaviour have caught up with you because you know you’ve done this for years, right back to the poor 365 women, but there was nowhere for people to collectively share their experiences and now there is. You briefly seemed to get it when you lost your business, your home and your wife, you admitted it was you, but a little TikTok success and that humbleness is gone and the bleeping ego is back and you are worse than ever. So many people (not just women!) hurt by you, so many and you just want to throw a bleeping pity party!

classic narcissistic reply. Blackmail too with his “I’m only paying you seven and only if you don’t post it”. duck off