Its so bad we're in this position. Potentially firing so many people will be a disaster.Don't leave of your free will, if you don't want the vaccine hold out. My daughter is NHS and is going through the same as you.
I'm led to believe that if you decline the vaccine and they are going through with the mandate they have to follow a disciplinary procedure.
There are many people with youmy daughters ward are nearly all against mandatory vaccines even though they are vaccinated themselves.
I think they actually won't go through with the mandate when push comes to shove so personally, I would hold off! but that's just my personal opinionDon't leave of your free will, if you don't want the vaccine hold out. My daughter is NHS and is going through the same as you.
I'm led to believe that if you decline the vaccine and they are going through with the mandate they have to follow a disciplinary procedure.
There are many people with youmy daughters ward are nearly all against mandatory vaccines even though they are vaccinated themselves.
Or be told that all the correct testing was done, and that the only reason we got it so quickly was that the red tape was cutIf they didn't realise that the immunity from the vaccine would only last a short while, then how can they possibly know the long term effects of the vaccine?
Whoops, wait for it.
That question is not on the approved list and should not be asked and if it is make sure to label, shame and embarrass that person for asking such a stupid question.
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I’m sure their minds would be quickly changed if they developed cancer and the NHS was too understaffed to treat them. When your life is on the line would you really care if the doctor/nurse treating you has had a covid vaccine?I'm not sure the people calling for mandatory vaccines for NHS staff actually know what outcome will be if this goes through. I'd be more scared of that situation than Covid itself.
It's all so wrong, isn't it.Any nhs/care staff on here?
We're getting pressure to start getting the vax in time for April 1 or dismissal. So far i've refused to give confirmation i havent had it but not sure this will last. Has anyone managed to get a temp exemption?
Exactly, people can't think long term.I’m sure their minds would be quickly changed if they developed cancer and the NHS was too understaffed to treat them. When your life is on the line would you really care if the doctor/nurse treating you has had a covid vaccine?
The wording is very important when brainwashing people into believing the narrative and at the same time dividing us all.Anyone else read the Guardian article "My bile rises..."?
Was honestly quite shocked by what the Dr had wrote, seems to be very based on personal morals rather than medical need. The dying cancer patient was rightfully referred to as a "patient" and a lot of space was given to humanising her by showing how her family were impacted by her care. Yet the unvaccinated patient was simply referred to as a "man" not a patient needing an ICU bed because he was a Covid patient, but an unvaccinated man. The article also claims he wouldn't have been so ill if he had been vaxxed, how can they be so certain? Does he have certain increased risks factors, in terms of lifestyle, health, housing? Did the cancer patient smoke 3 packs a day? Why is a medic making an article about the "deserving" and the "undeserving"?
Why also would a "dying" cancer patient be on an ICU ward? Surely they should be moved to palliative care and not forced to go through such invasive physically taxing care just to tell the family "we did all we could", at the expense of a bed that could help someone survive their illness?
Thought the Guardian would have been better than this, it's no different from right wing rags hating on patients with diabetes or obesity. The real failures are shutting everything and scaring people so they wouldn't go to get those early symptoms checked out, lack of staff and beds, lack of care home beds so people can get moved from hospital. Not something that seems perfectly usual... a dying patient being moved from ICU to a ward better suited to their needs, and someone in need of ICU taking that space, regardless of how both patients unfortunately ended up there.
Sorry for the rant but this is just creating division and hatred
I've not read it but I didn't know doctors and medical staff to be so openly judgemental before this vaccine rollout.Anyone else read the Guardian article "My bile rises..."?
Was honestly quite shocked by what the Dr had wrote, seems to be very based on personal morals rather than medical need. The dying cancer patient was rightfully referred to as a "patient" and a lot of space was given to humanising her by showing how her family were impacted by her care. Yet the unvaccinated patient was simply referred to as a "man" not a patient needing an ICU bed because he was a Covid patient, but an unvaccinated man. The article also claims he wouldn't have been so ill if he had been vaxxed, how can they be so certain? Does he have certain increased risks factors, in terms of lifestyle, health, housing? Did the cancer patient smoke 3 packs a day? Why is a medic making an article about the "deserving" and the "undeserving"?
Why also would a "dying" cancer patient be on an ICU ward? Surely they should be moved to palliative care and not forced to go through such invasive physically taxing care just to tell the family "we did all we could", at the expense of a bed that could help someone survive their illness?
Thought the Guardian would have been better than this, it's no different from right wing rags hating on patients with diabetes or obesity. The real failures are shutting everything and scaring people so they wouldn't go to get those early symptoms checked out, lack of staff and beds, lack of care home beds so people can get moved from hospital. Not something that seems perfectly usual... a dying patient being moved from ICU to a ward better suited to their needs, and someone in need of ICU taking that space, regardless of how both patients unfortunately ended up there.
Sorry for the rant but this is just creating division and hatred
I saw something the other day about Swann wanting to introduce mandatory covid and flu jabs for new healthcare staff - but I don't think theres been much movement on that even.It’s only in England they’re doing mandatory vaccines isn’t it? I’m sure they said it wouldn’t be happening in NI , don’t know about the other regions.
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