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I’m pretty sure my contraceptive pill has a higher risk of clots 😂
 
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Well I'm 41 and ill be saying no to AstraZeneca. 4 in a million chance of dropping dead after it? No thanks.
people can judge me all they want, I already had anxiety about the vaccine, I can’t see myself taking it now. 😐 I’m glad my own mother will be given the Pfizer or Moderna

I’m pretty sure my contraceptive pill has a higher risk of clots 😂
very possible, the pill has been used for years and years, we aren’t even 6 months into these vaccines and we’re already seeing stuff like this.
 
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The FDA estimates that the risk of birth control users developing a serious blood clot is three to nine women out of 10,000, every year. If roughly 842 million use hormonal methods across the world, that means a potential 252,600 to 757,800 people are at risk of blood clots while using birth control.

These numbers are based on various estimations, but illustrate a very real risk taken by millions of people across the world for the sake of their health – whether physical or mental.
 
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I've just had the "WTF do I do now mum?" phone call.
Short answer, I haven't got a clue. You'll have to ring the doctors.
I feel very guilty, I made a strong case for my kid post DVT recovery to get the vaccine (previous disease of a solid organ, previous respiratory disease leading to partial oesophageal closure) and here we are.
Anyone who thinks parenting stops at 18, it really doesn't. This tit is forever..wine anyone? 😘🍷
 
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I wonder what the risks are for migraine sufferers that the pill is a no, no for 🤔
 
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The FDA estimates that the risk of birth control users developing a serious blood clot is three to nine women out of 10,000, every year. If roughly 842 million use hormonal methods across the world, that means a potential 252,600 to 757,800 people are at risk of blood clots while using birth control.

These numbers are based on various estimations, but illustrate a very real risk taken by millions of people across the world for the sake of their health – whether physical or mental.
isn’t there an issue with the type of blood clots though? Something about the brain?

i don’t think the UK would cast aspersions on the “oxford vaccine” without real reason. They must be very worried to not just throw this back on the EU.
 
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isn’t there an issue with the type of blood clots though? Something about the brain?
Yeh they are a very rare brain type. Not your normal but still deadly type. That's my very unscientific take on what I have read 🤣
 
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isn’t there an issue with the type of blood clots though? Something about the brain?

i don’t think the UK would cast aspersions on the “oxford vaccine” without real reason. They must be very worried to not just throw this back on the EU.
It wasn’t just blood clot in the brain - cerebral venous sinus thrombosis that was reported, it was also thrombosis. Both were a very small number.
 
people can judge me all they want, I already had anxiety about the vaccine, I can’t see myself taking it now. 😐 I’m glad my own mother will be given the Pfizer or Moderna



very possible, the pill has been used for years and years, we aren’t even 6 months into these vaccines and we’re already seeing stuff like this.
On the other hand we've never had this many people jabbed in such a short period of time before so there's a whole raft of new data about all sorts of things than can be identified quickly without several months' worth of other random causes to filter out.

So the main reason for it all looking so bad is the short timescale rather than being worse than other things of similar probability.

Which may or may not help hesitancy, but I've had my first AZ and I'm genetically incapable of resisting a BOGOF so for me it's not even a question.
 
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It wasn’t just blood clot in the brain - cerebral venous sinus thrombosis that was reported, it was also thrombosis. Both were a very small number.
soooooooooo..... they got sick right 😐 like dead sick.



On the other hand we've never had this many people jabbed in such a short period of time before so there's a whole raft of new data about all sorts of things than can be identified quickly without several months' worth of other random cause to filter out.

So the main reason for it all looking so bad is the short timescale rather than being worse than other things of similar probability.

Which may or may not help hesitancy, but I've had my first AZ and I'm genetically incapable of resisting a BOGOF so for me it's not even a question.
what I find more concerning is the UK’s decision. Big move casting even a fraction of doubt on the Great British vaccine they’ve gloated about for so long, and they ridiculed the EU for doing the same thing weeks ago.
it was jealousy, it was bitterness. Clearly not.
 
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soooooooooo..... they got sick right 😐 like dead sick.

I’m not debating the seriousness of this but you look at something like the contraceptive pill that so many women take without thinking twice. Their risk of blood clots are far greater than that of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine.
 
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I’m not debating the seriousness of this but you look at something like the contraceptive pill that so many women take without thinking twice. Their risk of blood clots are far greater than that of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine.
It worries me people take the pill without thinking twice! But that aside I'm sure there were similar concerns when the pill was first being introduced as well.
 
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From what I've read it is a different type of clot to the ones you're at risk of with the pill, hence the concern. I think by the time those of us in our 20s are offered the vaccine, there will be more clarity and hopefully we will know a bit more.

No judgment at all for those who are worried, I think we all need to be as kind as possible at the moment when so much is going on ❤
 
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I’m not debating the seriousness of this but you look at something like the contraceptive pill that so many women take without thinking twice. Their risk of blood clots are far greater than that of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine.
This is where I feel anxious though in that I have a choice about the pill, I don’t feel I have a choice with the vaccine. Without revealing my medical details there are 2 medications I’ve taken previously that made me very unwell that the Dr doesnt prescribe me now and if I ever need an alternative it’s monitored really carefully (it’s nothing that would interfere with the vaccine to my knowledge but something that I don’t medicate for now unless it becomes a necessity but I try to avoid due to my experience) but we don’t get to choose which vaccine we have. I honestly wish I wasn’t so anxious about all this 😞
 
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If no one wants AZ sign me up so I can get my covid passport to freedom 😂😂😂😂
 
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This is where I feel anxious though in that I have a choice about the pill, I don’t feel I have a choice with the vaccine. Without revealing my medical details there are 2 medications I’ve taken previously that made me very unwell that the Dr doesnt prescribe me now and if I ever need an alternative it’s monitored really carefully (it’s nothing that would interfere with the vaccine to my knowledge but something that I don’t medicate for now unless it becomes a necessity but I try to avoid due to my experience) but we don’t get to choose which vaccine we have. I honestly wish I wasn’t so anxious about all this 😞
I’m sorry you are feeling anxious about it, many are feeling the same, including myself (trying to not let it get the better of me by looking at the risks in the bigger picture). Could you possibly speak to your doctor about your concerns due to your medical history? Don’t be hard on yourself for feeling this way.
 
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I’m sorry you are feeling anxious about it, many are feeling the same, including myself (trying to not let it get the better of me by looking at the risks in the bigger picture). Could you possibly speak to your doctor about your concerns due to your medical history. Don’t be hard on yourself for feeling this way.
Thank you, yes I am thinking about speaking to my Dr and I’m under the care of a CPN too, we’ve had a very brief conversation about it but I will try talking to her again. I know that she’s had hers so that might help me feel better if we talk more about it. I know it might be silly but I feel like I’m really struggling with this, it’s a pattern for me though I tend to get myself in a state worrying about something and then a few weeks later it’s fine and forgotten about x
 
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That is just a small part of what was said...


We've just heard that the EU medicine regulator's review of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has concluded that "unusual blood clots with low blood platelets should be listed as very rare side effects".

"The reported combination of blood clots and low blood platelets is very rare, and the overall benefits of the vaccine in preventing Covid-19 outweigh the risks of side effects," the European Medicines Agency (EMA) said.

Most of the cases reported had occurred in women under 60 years of age within two weeks of vaccination.

The regulator said that one plausible explanation for the combination of blood clots and low blood platelets was an "immune response, leading to a condition similar to one seen sometimes in patients treated with heparin (heparin induced thrombocytopenia, HIT)".
I wonder what happens to the under 30's who have already had their first jab like my grandson.
 
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Thank you, yes I am thinking about speaking to my Dr and I’m under the care of a CPN too, we’ve had a very brief conversation about it but I will try talking to her again. I know that she’s had hers so that might help me feel better if we talk more about it. I know it might be silly but I feel like I’m really struggling with this, it’s a pattern for me though I tend to get myself in a state worrying about something and then a few weeks later it’s fine and forgotten about x
I hope you are able to get some clarity if you are able to speak to your doctor and also some reassurance. It is not at all silly to feel like this, it is only natural to feel worried. Don’t be hard on yourself and talk to someone if you can, about your concerns to alleviate your worries and hopefully give you some peace of mind and calm.

I wonder what happens to the under 30's who have already had their first jab like my grandson.
I would think they would receive the 2nd dose as normal if they were okay after having had the 1st dose.
 
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I didn't watch the press conference earlier, did they explain why under 30s won't have AZ? Just confused as 3 of the 19 deaths were under 30, is it your at greater risk from covid than the vax if your over 30?
 
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