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This. I was reading the information for my new pill last night and on the combined pill the risk is 5-7 in 10,000.

The risk for this vaccine is lower than that in a million.

I get my risk from covid is incredibly low but it seems crazy considering the risks from the pill which I take every day and have for 10 years!
These sorts of posts really help me. I have so much anxiety around the AZ vaccine at the moment. To put it in context I’m a very risk adverse kind of person and I get very anxious about lots of things. I do want to be vaccinated I just want to feel safe and not have it kick off extreme health anxiety. I know that some people won’t understand but I’ve made myself physically sick over health concerns before. I hate this pandemic!!!!!
 
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A big decrease in infections, which is a good signal for deaths and hospital admissions. Deaths are up slightly probably due to a bit of a lag from being a bank holiday week.

 
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This. I was reading the information for my new pill last night and on the combined pill the risk is 5-7 in 10,000.

The risk for this vaccine is lower than that in a million.

I get my risk from covid is incredibly low but it seems crazy considering the risks from the pill which I take every day and have for 10 years!
I keep thinking this. I wonder how many women who will refuse the vaccine based on this blood clot risk are on the pill. Or men who are happy to let their OH’s take the pill for convenience despite its risks. Of course, everyone is allowed their opinion on what goes into their body - I’m not saying that happily taking the pill means that you can’t also be worried about this jab risk, but it is interesting.
 
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It's unusual that the older you are the safer you are from something happening to you. Look at how the size of the circles get bigger as you get younger and become more at risk.



 
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I keep thinking this. I wonder how many women who will refuse the vaccine based on this blood clot risk are on the pill. Or men who are happy to let their OH’s take the pill for convenience despite its risks. Of course, everyone is allowed their opinion on what goes into their body - I’m not saying that happily taking the pill means that you can’t also be worried about this jab risk, but it is interesting.
I think it’s because it’s so new and there are headlines about it. If someone was taking a particular kind of pill and then it started appearing in the media that there had been some new serious side effects with it no one would question them being worried about it and wanting to check with their Dr, but it feels a little bit like it’s not ok to question the vaccine. But you’re right that it is interesting and I know I’ve taken medication in the past that when you read the side effects you think 😧 but I think we accept the risk more because it’s not new
 
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I had the AZ vaccine and I'm 20. I've had it for over 2 weeks, felt totally fine until today I read that: my body is now in panic mode and imitating every symptom of a blood clot, headache, shooting pains etc. But as soon as I calm down I know it will all go away. I hate hypochondria sooo much. :cry: :cautious:
 
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I had the AZ vaccine and I'm 20. I've had it for over 2 weeks, felt totally fine until today I read that: my body is now in panic mode and imitating every symptom of a blood clot, headache, shooting pains etc. But as soon as I calm down I know it will all go away. I hate hypochondria sooo much. :cry: :cautious:
I absolutely sympathise with you, it’s very real that you can imagine symptoms when you’re worried about things. I hope you feel better soon.
 
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I think it’s because it’s so new and there are headlines about it. If someone was taking a particular kind of pill and then it started appearing in the media that there had been some new serious side effects with it no one would question them being worried about it and wanting to check with their Dr, but it feels a little bit like it’s not ok to question the vaccine. But you’re right that it is interesting and I know I’ve taken medication in the past that when you read the side effects you think 😧 but I think we accept the risk more because it’s not new
You’re right, the fact it’s new means that every development will be widely reported and scrutinised, even if those developments/discoveries are not worrying to medical professionals and are in line with existing situations/vaccines etc.
 
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Why under 30? Where is this link to age? I’m not worried about myself as I’m fully pfizered 😂 But my partner is 32 so he will probably get AZ when his time comes.... and he is not very fit, overweight etc😣 I know it’s such a small risk but there must be a real reason they have stopped them for under 30s despite saying for months that it’s fine!
 
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Why under 30? Where is this link to age? I’m not worried about myself as I’m fully pfizered 😂 But my partner is 32 so he will probably get AZ when his time comes.... and he is not very fit, overweight etc😣 I know it’s such a small risk but there must be a real reason they have stopped them for under 30s despite saying for months that it’s fine!
As the graph further up shows it is under 30 when your risk from the vaccine is greater than your risk of being seriously ill from covid.

Other age groups the risk of being seriously ill from covid is higher than the risk of a clot from the jab
 
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Why under 30? Where is this link to age? I’m not worried about myself as I’m fully pfizered 😂 But my partner is 32 so he will probably get AZ when his time comes.... and he is not very fit, overweight etc😣 I know it’s such a small risk but there must be a real reason they have stopped them for under 30s despite saying for months that it’s fine!
Its the risk vs benefit, someone included one of Van Tams slides above from twitter.

They do say with low exposure risk. I imagine if you are 20-29 with a condition that makes you vulnerable you are better to take the AZ vaccine. Or if covid starts to circulate more again i.e. cases and hospitalisations rise, that risk v benefit may change.
 
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As the graph further up shows it is under 30 when your risk from the vaccine is greater than your risk of being seriously ill from covid.

Other age groups the risk of being seriously ill from covid is higher than the risk of a clot from the jab
Ah I see so it’s nothing to do with younger people getting blood clots - it’s because the risk of them getting a blood clot is still higher than them getting ill with covid. That’s kind of how they justify the risk of blood clots or increased risk of certain cancers from the contraceptive pill - they say the risk of complications if you fell pregnant is still higher than the risk of taking it... :unsure:
 
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Sorry to change subject from blood clots lol but anyone who has done a home PCR test and then sent it back via a royal mail postbox... what was your turn around time from when you ordered the test? How long until it arrived and then how long from you sending it off to getting the results??

I'm hoping they're a little quicker atm than they were in the peak but as I've never had to do it before I'm curious how long it'll take. I was hoping for results by Sunday but not sure if I'm being very optimistic hahah
 
Ah I see so it’s nothing to do with younger people getting blood clots - it’s because the risk of them getting a blood clot is still higher than them getting ill with covid. That’s kind of how they justify the risk of blood clots or increased risk of certain cancers from the contraceptive pill - they say the risk of complications if you fell pregnant is still higher than the risk of taking it... :unsure:
Exactly. I think the pill raises risk of blood clot by 3 to 4 times, but pregnancy/3 months post birth is around 6 or 7 times more likely to develop blood clot.
 
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Sorry to change subject from blood clots lol but anyone who has done a home PCR test and then sent it back via a royal mail postbox... what was your turn around time from when you ordered the test? How long until it arrived and then how long from you sending it off to getting the results??

I'm hoping they're a little quicker atm than they were in the peak but as I've never had to do it before I'm curious how long it'll take. I was hoping for results by Sunday but not sure if I'm being very optimistic hahah
When i done my daughters last week it was sent off on the sat results received Tues evening
 
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Sorry to change subject from blood clots lol but anyone who has done a home PCR test and then sent it back via a royal mail postbox... what was your turn around time from when you ordered the test? How long until it arrived and then how long from you sending it off to getting the results??

I'm hoping they're a little quicker atm than they were in the peak but as I've never had to do it before I'm curious how long it'll take. I was hoping for results by Sunday but not sure if I'm being very optimistic hahah
it was 48 hours for me from when I posted it.
 
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Sorry to change subject from blood clots lol but anyone who has done a home PCR test and then sent it back via a royal mail postbox... what was your turn around time from when you ordered the test? How long until it arrived and then how long from you sending it off to getting the results??

I'm hoping they're a little quicker atm than they were in the peak but as I've never had to do it before I'm curious how long it'll take. I was hoping for results by Sunday but not sure if I'm being very optimistic hahah
The first time I ordered one it arrived within two days. Posted it on Sunday and got results on Tuesday so less than 48 hours.

The second time I ordered one it came the next day and again got results in less than 48 hours.
 
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Looks like the EU were right, this is what happens when you fast track a vaccine.
 
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Well I'm 41 and ill be saying no to AstraZeneca. 4 in a million chance of dropping dead after it? No thanks.
 
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