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Keyhole Kate

It's ok, I have googled my question but many thanks for answering with your own point of view.

This is taken from itv news on 24th April:


At a cost of many millions a week there are rumblings the Nightingale is turning into an expensive white elephant.

London Nightingale was conceived, as an overflow facility for patients with respiratory failure. Nursing staff ratios would be considerably lower than conventional ICUs at one nurse to six patients and not the usual one to one.

"If 1000s has been dying from lack of ventilators" the staff member told me, "the Nightingales would have been a safe, effective and efficient way of treating them."

What transpired was rather different. Not only did the health system never get to the point where it was overwhelmed, meaning that few hospitals were willing to transfer patients to a facility judged to have a higher clinical risk.

Also our understanding of the virus developed. Doctors realised critically ill Covid-19 patients were often developing multiple organ failure requiring not just ventilators, but kidney dialysis machines and cardiac support.

The Nightingale, designed as an ITU for respiratory lung support, was not set up to deal with this. Not enough critical care nurses has also been an issue. London hospitals expected to second nurses to the facility haven’t done so.

With cancer and heart specialists warning that death tolls from other conditions could far exceed Covid-19 deaths if normal treatment isn’t resumed.

The Health Secretary pledged on Thursday: "Within very short order, we will start to restart the NHS."

Hopefully we will never need to use the new hospitals.
 

Alightened

Glad you're feeling better though xx
 
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Platypusfattypus

stewpot said:
I thought that was why they had so many retired doctors and nurses come back to help.
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These Dr's and nurses can't just jump straight back into a job. They may need additional training to update them, they may need extra support. I had mat leave for 15 mths and it took me a while to get back into it, plus as I had moved trusts I had to undergo induction and needed supernumery for quite a few weeks. Plus people are being lived to areas they won't have worked in before.

Moved not lived sorry.

And the NMC are notoriously slow so re regsieteing with them may take a while esp if large numbers are registering. It took me 2 months to get my pin.
 

caitlinbullen

Maybe it's a not-so-subtle sales technique?! To he fair if someone was reminding me about 20k people dying I'd sure as hell throw a lot more gin and chocolate in my trolley

Yel said:
The guy controlling the Lidl line outside announced that 20k had died, I'm sure he ment well and just wanted to be chatty but come on food shopping is joyless enough as it is
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Sausageparty

Havent been out in weeks and have been sending husband to do the food shop once a week as just dont want to go out. Thought I'd go out today to get some paracetamol and have experienced my first covidiot looking for an argument.

Accused me of standing too close to her and her son in my local coop and not following the 2m rule. I was literally no where near this woman or her son. I am well aware of the rules. Spoke a few choice words as I wasnt prepared to be spoken to like that when I'd done nothing wrong and especially since I was taking precautions and wearing a mask.

She couldnt of been that bothered as she had her son with her who looked about 13 so obv old enough to stay at home or in car. She also wasnt wearing a mask/scarf/whatever you can use.

Literally sick of people looking for arguements for something to do cos they're clearly bored. Were all bored atm but trying to cause arguments isnt going to help.

Not that things will go back to normal anytime soon but I really wish it would
 
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Margie

Well I am really going to miss the daily press conferences with Trump now he has pulled the plug on those
 
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Alightened

I've just been on my daily walk and came across 5 teenagers on bikes cycling along the footpath towards me. They wouldn't move. I had to walk into the road. They were all about 17 years old ish, why on the effing footpath
 
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Interestingbitsnbats

Has anyone notice any changes in their toddlers attitude first three weeks enjoying playing etc now its hell on earth everything decide to do or play isnt good enough resulting into full on crying fits
 
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monga

Margie said:
Well I am really going to miss the daily press conferences with Trump now he has pulled the plug on those
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But sure we'll be back to "Bash Boris" from tomorrow onwards

Interestingbitsnbats said:
Has anyone notice any changes in their toddlers attitude first three weeks enjoying playing etc now its hell on earth everything decide to do or play isnt good enough resulting into full on crying fits
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I think all the kids are bored now,can't really blame them tbh
 
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Noseybonk

Abcd123 said:
The equivalent of the Manchester stadium have died.

Yet people still think it's fine to visit family members and have pubs open... WTF
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I live in the north west and have visited the arena many many times and this is something visual that might get through to some of the loons round here.
 
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btw

Interestingbitsnbats said:
Has anyone notice any changes in their toddlers attitude first three weeks enjoying playing etc now its hell on earth everything decide to do or play isnt good enough resulting into full on crying fits
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Your not alone I’ve noticed the effects of the lockdown this week with my toddler. The change from going out most days to the park, preschool, meeting friends and family to now being stuck in the house is definitely affecting their behaviour and attitude
 
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Jg182

prinnygrace said:
Amazing. Thank you both! I just assumed I wouldn’t be able to due to usually having to present 2 forms of ID. I’ll give them a call in the week.
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Also they can’t refuse to see you if your ill, we were told this when my oh left the military and didn’t register to a doctors until he needed one. They happily saw him, and he registered after
 
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