Seems to be the complete opposite here. I've seen lots of people on facebook and Insta who I thought were decent people gloating that if you aren't vaccinated then you dont get to enjoy events with large crowds because you aren't being socially responsible.After over 500 days it was amazing to be back at the Football today inside a five figure crowd with barely a mask to be seen. It felt like the good old days. Meanwhile in France the stupid vaccine passport is killing business as people won't take one to be allowed in places and people who are fully vaccinated won't go in because they stand with those being forced to have it.
Yes I’m on the same trial and in the fb group of trial participants and his information seems very ill informed, and not what ANY of us nationally have been communicated, and the risk to travel was all documented in materials and with the trial team before you signed up. All 40 odd sites are given the same information and materials. It’s very well managed and controlled.Scaremongering to who exactly? Are you suggesting he’s lying about his experience of being on the trial?
I don’t think it’s fair to call him a liar based on his experience. His lived experience is just as valid as yours. Why would he lie about it?! He doesn’t have anything to gain by lying and I’m still not sure who it’s scaremongering to? Maybe he left the group because he’s no longer part of the trial it would be inappropriate for him to remain a member of a group about it.Yes I’m on the same trial and in the fb group of trial participants and his information seems very ill informed, and not what ANY of us nationally have been communicated, and the risk to travel was all documented in materials and with the trial team before you signed up. All 40 odd sites are given the same information and materials. It’s very well managed and controlled.
His facts are months out of date and commentary around the offer for PCR tests is also wrong from what we have been offered.
Also he claims he’s in the fb group - he’s not he’s either never been on there or he’s left because he knew other posters would call him out….
As a trial participant myself I can see he’s lying about the facts and information provided to every participant. It’s not lived experience when it’s not true, he is factually lying about the process, situation and our status.I don’t think it’s fair to call him a liar based on his experience. His lived experience is just as valid as yours. Why would he lie about it?! He doesn’t have anything to gain by lying and I’m still not sure who it’s scaremongering to? Maybe he left the group because he’s no longer part of the trial it would be inappropriate for him to remain a member of a group about it.
I disagree with you. It is his lived experience when he’s talking about his experience of being on the trial, he doesn’t gain anything whatsoever by sharing his experience so it would be bizarre for him to lie about it. He’s talking about what happened to him. Just because it didn’t happen to you doesn’t make it a lie. That’s like suggesting everyone who goes to the dentist for a filling will have the same experience, similar yes but not exactly the same. We know from people sharing their experience of having the vaccines on here that everyone’s experience is different - some members report being given info leaflets and waiting 15 mins before leaving the arena, others report being asked to lift up their sleeve and given no info.As a trial participant myself I can see he’s lying about the facts and information provided to every participant. It’s not lived experience when it’s not true, he is factually lying about the process, situation and our status.
It’s scaremongering because he’s making out that the process is shambolic - we will need more volunteers in the future for vaccines/healthcare etc and untrue stories like this doesn’t do any of us good when we will need more people to do more research and testing.
Given I am on the trial and have experienced this first hand, we all get the same information emailed in writing. It’s not about an experience, it’s a nationally managed process with strict protocols, and he is lying (and with holding) information that all participants have been provided.I disagree with you. It is his lived experience when he’s talking about his experience of being on the trial, he doesn’t gain anything whatsoever by sharing his experience so it would be bizarre for him to lie about it. He’s talking about what happened to him. Just because it didn’t happen to you doesn’t make it a lie. That’s like suggesting everyone who goes to the dentist for a filling will have the same experience, similar yes but not exactly the same.
I highly doubt any potential participant of a drugs trial would be put off based on one persons experience captured in the daily Mail.
I don’t think it’s fair to go around calling people liars. I’ll leave it at that, it’s not that deep.
I know you were on trial and you’ve had a different experience, doesn’t make him a liar. Like I said it’s not that deep, I’ll leave it at that.Given I am on the trial and have experienced this first hand, we all get the same information emailed in writing. It’s not about an experience, it’s a nationally managed process with strict protocols, and he is lying (and with holding) information that all participants have been provided.
I came across a comment from that article, from a person who was on the trial. They said that some of the info (from the article) was not up to date. The vaccination status did show on the app (at the start of July) and participants were told it would be.Given I am on the trial and have experienced this first hand, we all get the same information emailed in writing. It’s not about an experience, it’s a nationally managed process with strict protocols, and he is lying (and with holding) information that all participants have been provided.
Yes mine has been showing for ages, and as I have posted we all have a letter to use as well and an offer of PCR tests paid for (not the offer referred to in the article this is incorrect).I came across a comment from that article, from a person who was on the trial. They said that some of the info (from the article) was not up to date. The vaccination status did show on the app (at the start of July) and participants were told it would be.
not up to date so quite different to lying isn’t it?I came across a comment from that article, from a person who was on the trial. They said that some of the info (from the article) was not up to date. The vaccination status did show on the app (at the start of July) and participants were told it would be.
I don’t know the ins and outs of the trial like the poster above who is part of it. I just made an observation from a comment I read. (From the Daily Mail article)not up to date so quite different to lying isn’t it?
Yep, a participant of the trial just like the health journalist who shared their experience. not sure why it’s fair to brand one a liar and one notI don’t know the ins and outs of the trial like the poster above who is part of it. I just made an observation from a comment I read. (From the Daily Mail article)
I didn’t brand anyone anything. Just added my observation to the conversation. Have a good day.Yep, a participant of the trial just like the health journalist who shared their experience. not sure why it’s fair to brand one a liar and one notah well. Have a great Sunday folks.
That’s frightening. Dire times we’re living in. I think it’s too early to offer it to all over 12s and even the teenagers, some doctors have been really vocal on twitter about how although they agree with vaccination for covid they don’t believe it’s safe and appropriate for all children/teenagers at this stage because for many of them it’s more risk than it is beneficial! Hope the parents don’t feel coerced into doing it (if they don’t want it).All 16 & 17-year-olds offered Covid jab in next week - & over-12s may be next
ALL 16 and 17-year-olds will be offered a Covid jab in the next week as the rollout could be extended to all over-12s. Youngsters will be given a dose of the Pfizer vaccine in a bid to build up imm…www.thesun.co.uk
Sending out letters to schools before the government has confirmed it is pushy. It's good for those pupils who want it that it will be available. Anyone not having it shouldn't be treated differently.
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