I agree, I also sleep with my window open all weathers due to sinus problems! So many people think I’m weird!I tend to have my bedroom window opening all weathers, If I don't I end up with sinus pain anyway just to say I've been woke at night with what sounds like a baby on checking security camera footage its been a roaming cat doing the howling
Exactly what I thought!She's filling up a plastic bottle with fuel and the person working authorised the pump whaaat?
They're different types of plastic. A jerrycan is much thicker than a plastic bottle. The petrol could eat through a thin bottle.I thought the same re pump but then I thought petrol canisters are only large plastic containers so maybe any plastic container is fine?
It is strange, they're usually hot on things like this 1, because of the sheer stupidity of some people and 2, the amount of people who chose to "drive off" with out paying., obviously shes not in a car but even so.They're different types of plastic. A jerrycan is much thicker than a plastic bottle. The petrol could eat through a thin bottle.
I was wondering why the cashier sold it to her but maybe they didn't see the container, didn't know it wasn't safe or just weren't bothered getting into a conversation with someone obviously behaving very strangely.
The prosecution and defence dispute the date of death, the prosecution think it happened later caused by camping in freezing temperatures the defence are using the petrol purchase to try to prove it happened earlier.She said the baby died on 9 January, yes. But aren't the prosecution alleging it happened later? Or have I got that wrong?
The ground would’ve been frozen and so hard, it would be really difficult to dig effectively enough, I think. The thought of cremating your own child out in the wild is horrific, but none of us rational people would have done anything that they did, we don’t know what was going on in their heads at the time.The prosecution and defence dispute the date of death, the prosecution think it happened later caused by camping in freezing temperatures the defence are using the petrol purchase to try to prove it happened earlier.
Would there be any other reason they might have needed petrol? For a campfire or barbecue? The idea of buying petrol for a DIY cremation is horrible would it not have been better just to bury her in the woods.
Do you not ventilate ur house?Ms Hidden heard constant baby cries as she had her window open at night. She thought it odd as there was a storm. Why would you have your bedroom window open during a storm??
Yep, there’s a few types of outdoor stoves that use petrol and they are better than the gas bottle alternatives anyway, plus for them it’s probably more accessible to get petrol than get an Amazon delivery or down to Halfords for gas bottles?Would there be any other reason they might have needed petrol? For a campfire or barbecue? The idea of buying petrol for a DIY cremation is horrible would it not have been better just to bury her in the woods.
Not in the middle of a bad storm by her admission!Do you not ventilate ur house?
It's a slow start again this morning !!Today’s Argus link
Jury to be shown bodycam footage of Marten and Gordon arrest - live updates
Live updates from the Old Bailey as the prosecution continues its case against Constance Marten and Mark Gordonwww.theargus.co.uk
Be stopping for lunch soon !It's a slow start again this morning !!
In all fairness, this was her 5th baby. She would have had some indication as to when the baby was due. Also i’m sure the labour would have been pretty quick after 5 natural births.I was thinking about the poor planning/ timing around the baby's birth. I completely agree with one of the posts above saying that CM wouldn't leave the country without MG. They are clearly very closely linked/ trauma bonded and so I'm sure she wouldn't have gone without him.
The other thing that occurred to me was as she'd had (I think) absolutely no medical contact prior to the birth, would she even definitely have known how many weeks she was. Their previously chaotic lives doesn't suggest to me that she was tracking her ovulation or doing pregnancy tests constantly. So she might not have been entirely certain when the baby was due (maybe within a month or so). I had pretty minimal medical involvement during both my pregnancies but still I can't imagine never seeing a doctor or midwife or not having a scan of any kind.
She probably didn't know actually when she was due, that's a good point.I was thinking about the poor planning/ timing around the baby's birth. I completely agree with one of the posts above saying that CM wouldn't leave the country without MG. They are clearly very closely linked/ trauma bonded and so I'm sure she wouldn't have gone without him.
The other thing that occurred to me was as she'd had (I think) absolutely no medical contact prior to the birth, would she even definitely have known how many weeks she was. Their previously chaotic lives doesn't suggest to me that she was tracking her ovulation or doing pregnancy tests constantly. So she might not have been entirely certain when the baby was due (maybe within a month or so). I had pretty minimal medical involvement during both my pregnancies but still I can't imagine never seeing a doctor or midwife or not having a scan of any kind.
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