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Absolutely not.

A substance like acid I would most definately draw the line at.

However much of this has been brought on by the lack of action taken by our Police Force. If they moved these protesters on within a matter of minutes, not hours, then much of this conflict could be avoided.
I agree. There is much more that could be done, however I guess when you're an outsider looking in that's very easy to say. I assume the police are surrounded by much red tape which prevents them doing what we'd all so love them to do, which is just move them on and tell them to bugger off!
 
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A lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck, if I lived near the M25 I would probably feel dangerously close to losing my nerve if being trapped in gridlock meant my boss docked my pay. A day's pay is significant and is the difference between affording food for the whole month or not. I understand stuff needs to change for the future but it's always the common Joe Bloggs who gets punished by these protests.
 
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Absolutely not.

A substance like acid I would most definately draw the line at.

However much of this has been brought on by the lack of action taken by our Police Forces. If they moved these protesters on within a matter of minutes, not hours, then much of this conflict could be avoided.
Yes, if the police attended and picked them all up and moved them as soon as they arrived instead of cat footing around them it would be sorted and would cause as much anger as it does.

A lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck, if I lived near the M25 I would probably feel dangerously close to losing my nerve if being trapped in gridlock meant my boss docked my pay. A day's pay is significant and is the difference between affording food for the whole month or not. I understand stuff needs to change for the future but it's always the common Joe Bloggs who gets punished by these protests.
I live near the M25, luckily so far I have not encountered them but I sympathise with anyone who does. The M25 is a nighmare at the best of times let alone when you are trying to go to work or hospital etc. Their protests are not making a dent in the governments plan they are just inconveniencing normal people.
 
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Yes, if the police attended and picked them all up and moved them as soon as they arrived instead of cat footing around them it would be sorted and would cause as much anger as it does.
That is what causes the most anger.

Being stuck for hours on a road, whilst the Police mess about with the 'welfare' of the protesters. What about the welfare of those stuck in their vehicles?

Next to no-one supports IB now. So the Police should not be afraid to deal with them in a swift manner. Any complaints IB raise about 'mistreatment' by the Police will fall on deaf ears with most of the public.
 
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A lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck, if I lived near the M25 I would probably feel dangerously close to losing my nerve if being trapped in gridlock meant my boss docked my pay. A day's pay is significant and is the difference between affording food for the whole month or not. I understand stuff needs to change for the future but it's always the common Joe Bloggs who gets punished by these protests.
It's telling that they (in general) haven't been back targeting the tube after what happened last time.

They need to protest the people in power, not the every day people.
 
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🤦‍♀️ For goodness sake.

A spokesperson for the group, who gave his name as Biff, said safety was "paramount" and the protests would not have proceeded if cars did not slow down sufficiently.

"The intention is to enter the carriageway and walk towards the oncoming traffic along the white lines," he said.

"If cars don't slow down and are hurtling along at full speed then we will be on the hard shoulder wearing our hi-vis with the banners.

"We would hope that it slows down anyway.


He added: "We've had feedback that people are frustrated that they spent time in traffic queues.

"This is like a rolling traffic queue, so we'll move, and once they get to the front they will be able to move on.

"We're not planning to stop traffic but it could slow down to five miles an hour.
 
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Aww I love bagpipe guy, pisses me off that he gets moved off by the police yet they are allowed to just disrupt everyone. Let him play his bagpipes next to them!
 
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I've come to the conclusion that the government is tolerating these loons (and has instructed the police to basically do very little about them) to distract us from something. It's inconceivable that there aren't already numerous legal approaches that can tacklle people disrupting major roads and motorways, or endangering themselves and others.

I think it's deliberate that they're being allowed to continue and it's to distract us from the governments disastrous handling of immigration, and covid/healthcare.
 
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I've come to the conclusion that the government is tolerating these loons (and has instructed the police to basically do very little about them) to distract us from something. It's inconceivable that there aren't already numerous legal approaches that can tacklle people disrupting major roads and motorways, or endangering themselves and others.

I think it's deliberate that they're being allowed to continue and it's to distract us from the governments disastrous handling of immigration, and covid/healthcare.
Are you sure about that? They get about two minutes, and usually only on the local news so from what I've seen not really taking much away from anything that's normally in the national news.
 
Are you sure about that? They get about two minutes, and usually only on the local news so from what I've seen not really taking much away from anything that's normally in the national news.
I dunno, I just can't think of any other explanation for why they're not just being dealt with promptly and efficiently back on day one.
 
I dunno, I just can't think of any other explanation for why they're not just being dealt with promptly and efficiently back on day one.
I think there's some complicated legalisms around it, including but not limited to right to protest versus obstruction of carriageway, mix in some questions over reasonable force and you get a minefield that to us looks simple but to the lawyers is paved with gold.
 
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I think because for the most part it’s technically peaceful protest (I’m aware there’s some within these groups who are causing criminal damage by smashing windows are major corps) there’s not a lot the police can do other than move them on/ask them to disperse.

I mean they’re completely stupid and incredibly selfish. But what they’re doing is on a technicality not illegal (as in the right to peaceful protest). If the police went in heavy handed with them it would end up the police in the wrong and probably sued by the protesters. So I don’t think it’s anything underhanded or some great distraction conspiracy. They’re barely given coverage anyway. Think they got at most a two minute piece on the 6pm news the other day.
 
It's telling that they (in general) haven't been back targeting the tube after what happened last time.

They need to protest the people in power, not the every day people.
Greenpeace were protesting outside Downing Street about oil drilling earlier in the month. I bet no one has really heard about that though because they were just standing on the pavements with placards and not making a nuisance of themselves.
 
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