Christine McGuinness and Paddy McGuinness

[Bloody orange Hell]

I doubt it. Autism used to actually mean something, but now the meaning of the word has been massively expanded to cover just about everything. It’s an immense clinical failure.

And a lot of people are desperate to have that as a label and they demand to be diagnosed with it or to have their children diagnosed with it.

Is this based on your knowledge or the most recent Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders? Because the criteria are very clearly and specifically laid out, and as far as I am aware, it hasn’t been massively expanded to cover just about everything. There is far more awareness now about neurodivergency, thank god, and some disorders are now listed in the DSM which did not used to be. It’s not just a quick chat and boom, you’ve got a diagnosis!

Often parents *are* desperate to get their kid diagnosed. It’s because that kid is already labelled at school - weird, thick, bad, naughty, stupid, horrendous, freak. The right label can be life saving and acts safety net and is meant to ensure their legal right to support but sadly, it often doesn’t. My kid was labelled as a weirdo, and horrendous and naughty and bad. He was bullied by children and occasionally teachers. Luckily this was 10 years ago and we only had to wait for 18 months for a diagnosis of multiple complex SN. our youngest is currently waiting for an asd diagnosis. The list is 3 years long. We are almost two years in. He has already self harmed as a young child due to inability to process emotions.

The ableism on this thread is shameful. The very idea that a diagnosis is some kind of fashionable accessory, or that they aren’t presenting as you think someone with autism should! My kids both present differently. In fact took far too long to see the youngest was struggling because his needs and difficulties were so much more internal and ‘quiet’ that those of the eldest .

I think the immense clinical failure has been to get people to develop an understanding and awareness of ND. I keep thinking things have changed then I read something like this thread and it is bleak as fuck.

FWIW I am no fan of Paddy or Christine. But I’m not going to keep quiet when there is so much disability shaming and questioning.

And the very idea they should show some medical proof! What an extraordinary request.

 

[Sloobsc]

Is this an autism thread now?

 

[Moderator]

Hi all, so this stays on topic of the celebs in question can someone create a thread in offtopic if people want to talk about autism in general?

 

[Bella bauble]

As someone who knew Paddy back in the late 90's in Bolton, he has always been a dog and was really well known for it around town!

He was a personal trainer and was married at the time and basically had a different woman every night!

A leopard doesn't change its spots......

 

[Eeyore147]

I can’t abide this dismissal of other peoples diagnoses.

I wish people would understand how hard it is for an Adult female to get an ASD diagnosis. It’s often mis-diagnosed as various MH disorders. It’s a spectrum so unlikely that people present the same. Females are often much better at masking too to ‘fit in’ and hide the struggles.

 

[Eeyore147]

I doubt it. Autism used to actually mean something, but now the meaning of the word has been massively expanded to cover just about everything. It’s an immense clinical failure.

And a lot of people are desperate to have that as a label and they demand to be diagnosed with it or to have their children diagnosed with it.

Who on earth actively wants/demands to be diagnosed with Autism? I have it and so does my son. My son was fairly late for a child and I was in my late 30’s. I would much rather not have the symptoms and lead a normal life than the ones we have. The struggles we have both been through

 

[lookatmekimmy]

I find it hard to accept her diagnosis too in view of her behaviours. Autism in adult females appears to be the diagnosis of choice now when times get tough. Just belittles the struggles girls and women go through with autism and comorbidities. Much harder for females who are more aware of their difficulties and hide away.

I can’t abide this dismissal of other peoples diagnoses.

 

[Bobby Orange]

I do feel for Christine. The sad thing is, there's always someone more fun, exciting and carefree than yourself when you're a Mum who does everything for her kids and puts them first. You're no longer just his partner but mother, housekeeper etc.
If she'd have been a crappy mum who put herself first and got all dolled up and went out partying constantly. Then he might still be interested.
Some men aren't looking for an amazing mum to their kids, they're looking for a sex kitten who is at their beck and call.
Sad truth is, that some men think the grass is greener. But it's greener where you water it.
Christine is stunning but the pressure of kids and him being away alot obviously took its toll.
Shame. But hopefully she finds happiness.
Just my opinion, having been there myself.

 

[mummykayles]

Top BBC star got stripper pregnant then dumped her before she gave birth

A BBC star fathered a love child with a stripper — but dumped her by text when he found out she was pregnant. The prime-time presenter made the woman sign a gagging order to stop her from wrecking …

www.thesun.co.uk

So who else thinks Paddy is the married BBC presenter with a catchphrase and a secret love child?

 

[Cack Conroe]

I am genuinely autistic, diagnosed as a (female) child and before it was trendy. I am hugely disabled by it, and am disgusted by this crop of celebs (and non-celebs) getting themselves diagnosed after an independent adult life. Myself and my peers will never live independently or be employed, and if we ever did reproduce, we would need help to look after them.

Autism has become meaningless and one study from 2016 showed that 9% of diagnoses are wrong. This is surely higher these days.

Even if Christine and Melanie Sykes and the like really did have autism, I don’t care. They obviously have the mildest form of autism ever and it’s ableist privilege that enables them to be the public faces of the condition, as opposed to the huge majority who are seriously disabled.

Masking is bullshit. All these mild “autistics” do is go on about how hard it is to look totally normal. They’re actually privileged to have that ability.

I am entitled to my own opinion by something that Christine is putting into the public eye, and clearly benefiting from, both financially and in terms of celebrity status, and in PR.

People more disabled by autism are entitled to have opinions on recent trends, confirmed in studies that people with milder and milder symptoms are getting diagnosed, and how that impacts us.

 

[Miss_Moo]

I can’t abide this dismissal of other peoples diagnoses.

Same. As someone who is neurodivergent, it’s making me feel uncomfortable reading it.

 

[timbertrot]

Autism presents itself in many different ways so I can’t believe people are even debating it. Also it can be linked genetically so the fact the 3 children all have Autism says a lot as well.

 

[Bobby Orange]

I reckon Paddy struggled with life as a Dad of autistic children. No doubt it must be hard work, he got the opportunity to work away alot and Christine mainly stayed home with the kids. I think she managed them in her own way and probably took to it all a bit easier. He probably found home life very chaotic and I doubt they had much time together after the kids were born. Some men would pull together and make things work despite the struggles and some men will find release elsewhere.
Unfortunately for Christine, as his job involves periods away from home, it's easier for him to detach from the family unit.
Don't think it'll be long until he goes public with someone new.
Just my take on it.

 

[Bloody orange Hell]

Blimey, there is some BS being written on here.
Can tell from someone’s eyes that they are autistic? Heavy lidded glazed expression/eyes look off balance…

You should tell NICE about that - it could save them a fortune on writing extensive assessments and developing diagnostic criteria.

“Oi! Janet! Got another one for an autism assessment.”

“Well, you know the criteria. Do they look a bit weird and off?”

“Ummm…yeah, they deffo look a bit wrong round the eyes…Yep, you’ve got autism love! NEXT!”

 

[JulieScoobyDoo]

Let's be honest if Paddy and Jamie Vardy weren't famous, those women wouldn't have given them a second glance. They're fame hungry publicity whores, they have to prance around half dressed because they've not got anything else to offer

They all remind me of that Peter Crouch quote when he was asked what he would have been if he hadn't been a footballer and he replied "a virgin".

 

[maytoseptember]

Not all autistic kids need specialist schooling, but basically all would benefit from the small class sizes and extra staff attention that private school offers. I always say that mainstream schools aren’t set up for even the most high-functioning kids. However you look at it, they are a sensory nightmare: loud, busy, bright, chaotic.

I don’t know why some people are so invested in Christine faking or exaggerating her kids’ autism. No one would guess my kids were autistic when first meeting them. Only my husband and I understand how challenging things can be behind closed doors.

 

[Katewinsletsknee]

The desperation of the Poundland version of goop is annoying to say the least.
I mean has the woman got a new manager who is closely affiliated with the Daily Mail to promote her bullshit brand of crap. This woman who has 3 special needs kids and if I am wrong correct me, but I don’t see her using her status to highlight the situation or the plight of how difficult it must be (unless you have nannies). I just find her desperation repugnant.

I get the feeling after Paddy got caught with the Appleton sister she insisted he make her famous .....

 

[TwooTwooTwitTwitTwoo]

So she conveniently claims.
If it is all true, which I doubt, how could Paddy be expected to cope with living with 4 autistic people?

Well given that he is jointly responsible for the existence of three of them, I'd say the same way any parent with any number of children with extra needs copes with them. You just love them and get on with it.

 

[Loveitme]

I heard Paddy said no to putting them online and good for him.They shouldnt be online ,I dont think anyone in the public eye should post their kids online

 

[Baroo11]

It must be hard having autistic children, but saying she served them fish and chips for Xmas day as it’s the only thing they’ll eat (saw a similar article I think it was last Xmas saying she had to go get them drive thru McNuggets) - I mean ALL kids that age (7 & 4) are fussy as hell about food and won’t eat a roast dinner. It’s not something that’s unique to your kids Christine love. She reminds me of a friend I know who has ADHD and is always uploading Facebook statuses attributing normal everyday things to ADHD, saying things like “if I don’t log into a website for a while, I can never remember my password and always end up having to reset them because of my adhd” (doesn’t everyone do this?!).

Also, your kids are that resistant to change and they have a hard time processing sensory issues but you moved house 2 weeks before Christmas?

children preferring certain foods and the sensory aversions that can be part of autism are two completely different things.