I couldn’t imagine having to do elf on the shelf! It sounds/looks exhausting.
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I couldn’t imagine having to do elf on the shelf! It sounds/looks exhausting.
It drives me mad when people let kids do things for themselves in these kind of environments. See also paying in shops etc! I understand that kids need to learn and become independent, but when it's busy and it's holding everyone else up? Really?! It's just not appropriate.
I'm pleased to come back to this thread after a slow Tattle time (the Jack Monroe thread and work was keeping me busy) because I've had some second hand news that has kinda thrown me for all sorts of reasons. It had me questioning my ideas and resolve about being child-free. I think for a few days I saw everything framed in the 2.4 children, semi detached house, family car life and started to have some real self esteem issues (working on that in general via CBT). I'm happy to reorientate myself back to *this* world though, so thanks all.
Also on the subject of inheritance - I'm in a complicated but very lucky financial situation. If I ever have significant capital of my own it won't be for some years and by then I won't really want to be up to my eyeballs in my first mortgage on a fancy property etc. I'm happy to enjoy myself but I don't want to spunk it - I think with the political and economic arena, coupled with climate change is going to make my older years pretty miserable and I'm going to want to be able to afford decent support and maintain a standard of living even if everything around me is on fire.
Also on the subject of inheritance - I'm in a complicated but very lucky financial situation. If I ever have significant capital of my own it won't be for some years and by then I won't really want to be up to my eyeballs in my first mortgage on a fancy property etc. I'm happy to enjoy myself but I don't want to spunk it - I think with the political and economic arena, coupled with climate change is going to make my older years pretty miserable and I'm going to want to be able to afford decent support and maintain a standard of living even if everything around me is on fire.
My (younger) sibling is expecting their first baby next year and when I read on here about you guys looking after nieces of nephews, I honestly don’t think my sibling would trust me to do that 
it makes me feel a bit sad, tbh. Though, I doubt I’d be saying that if it was a little tit. I suppose when their/our parents are so close by, they’ll be the first in line for babysitting.
it makes me feel a bit sad, tbh. Though, I doubt I’d be saying that if it was a little tit. I suppose when their/our parents are so close by, they’ll be the first in line for babysitting.
Last year I supported a local Girl Scout who was selling cookies. Her mother posted it on Nextdoor. She kept on raising the goal post for how much her daughter was looking to raise to the point where she bit off more than she could chew. She began to post messages asking people to go out of their way to pick up their orders as opposed to the initially promised delivery. It went against the spirit of the challenge of selling cookies — which is to teach young girls how to manage their affairs. I didn’t respond and ended up coming back from a morning appointment to find my order in a plastic bag with duct tape. No warning they were making deliveries that day and no note of thanks.
The mother apparently received the email address of everyone who purchased last year. She’s sent out an e-mail today trying to get people to buy more cookies. It is clearly authored by the mother but she repeats over and over again that it’s her daughter!! I can’t remember what the point of this post was I’m just so annoyed. This woman is obnoxious and I feel kind of bad for her daughter
ETA: I read it again and the e-mail! Has! So many! Exclamation points! That’s what has me pissed off
I don’t think I’m overreacting.
The mother apparently received the email address of everyone who purchased last year. She’s sent out an e-mail today trying to get people to buy more cookies. It is clearly authored by the mother but she repeats over and over again that it’s her daughter!! I can’t remember what the point of this post was
I’m just so annoyed. This woman is obnoxious and I feel kind of bad for her daughterETA: I read it again and the e-mail! Has! So many! Exclamation points! That’s what has me pissed off
I don’t think I’m overreacting.
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Apologies, if this has been mentioned, I’ve not read the whole thread.
As a parent I can completely understand why people don’t want to have kids - now more than ever. If I was younger & didn’t already have kids I don’t think I would bother.
Most childless people are quite surprised when I’m so supportive but honestly I think it’s refreshing.
After I had my kids my mother always tried to get me to go to playgroups and other places to make ‘mum’ friends. Personally I couldn’t think of anything worse - I enjoyed going out with my friends and hearing about their lives. I’m really not interested in hearing about other people’s babies and weaning nappies teething etc.. Just because I have a child of a similar age! Same with school parents., and all my friends even the ones who have kids generally feel the same.
So you childless people are a breath of fresh air - thank you
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As a parent I can completely understand why people don’t want to have kids - now more than ever. If I was younger & didn’t already have kids I don’t think I would bother.
Most childless people are quite surprised when I’m so supportive but honestly I think it’s refreshing.
After I had my kids my mother always tried to get me to go to playgroups and other places to make ‘mum’ friends. Personally I couldn’t think of anything worse - I enjoyed going out with my friends and hearing about their lives. I’m really not interested in hearing about other people’s babies and weaning nappies teething etc.. Just because I have a child of a similar age! Same with school parents., and all my friends even the ones who have kids generally feel the same.
So you childless people are a breath of fresh air - thank you
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is their somewhere you can rent a kid? cause I have no nieces or anything to babysit and sometimes seems like i'd need the reminder. to not have kids
I work in childcare so I know how kids operate... Unfortunately none of my tried and tested strategies work on my nephew! My nephew hits his parents but has never tried it on with me. Once he trashed his toys because he was frustrated and I told him to stop... He ran to grandma and told her that I had smashed up his toys! I was fuming
Just go on YouTube and watch supernanny clips
Tbh one of the many things that puts me off having kids is the idea of socialising with other parentsApologies, if this has been mentioned, I’ve not read the whole thread.
As a parent I can completely understand why people don’t want to have kids - now more than ever. If I was younger & didn’t already have kids I don’t think I would bother.
Most childless people are quite surprised when I’m so supportive but honestly I think it’s refreshing.
After I had my kids my mother always tried to get me to go to playgroups and other places to make ‘mum’ friends. Personally I couldn’t think of anything worse - I enjoyed going out with my friends and hearing about their lives. I’m really not interested in hearing about other people’s babies and weaning nappies teething etc.. Just because I have a child of a similar age! Same with school parents., and all my friends even the ones who have kids generally feel the same.
So you childless people are a breath of fresh air - thank you
Is it just me that finds the majority of parents incredibly boring? It's almost impossible to have a conversation without it reverting back to their kids.Of course there are exceptions and you sound like one of them - so it's refreshing to hear from you too!
Elf on the shelf is a load of Sh*t. Literally a way to make money. My kids literally looked at me like I was silly when I asked if they believed in it lol.
The last thing I want to hear about is kids all night! Don’t get me wrong someone asking about a specific issue or new parents/those with a newborn it’s all understandable.
However with my friends we might have a quick how’s so & so liking the new school or how was the birthday trip/party etc but then it’s on to more interesting topics.
Honestly working part time literally saved my MH. Speaking to other adults is essential. I really feel that people presume especially with other women that we are all in mum mode all the time! A lady I work with has dogs instead of kids and we probably look at more photos videos of the dog than we do our kids lol!
Thanks!Tbh one of the many things that puts me off having kids is the idea of socialising with other parents
Of course there are exceptions and you sound like one of them - so it's refreshing to hear from you too!
The last thing I want to hear about is kids all night! Don’t get me wrong someone asking about a specific issue or new parents/those with a newborn it’s all understandable.
However with my friends we might have a quick how’s so & so liking the new school or how was the birthday trip/party etc but then it’s on to more interesting topics.
Honestly working part time literally saved my MH. Speaking to other adults is essential. I really feel that people presume especially with other women that we are all in mum mode all the time! A lady I work with has dogs instead of kids and we probably look at more photos videos of the dog than we do our kids lol!
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The fact that the environment is going to hell, the economy is as stable as a pile of dominoes and the politicians are more crooked than gangsters make me happy that I do not have kids.
I have a little brother and he is already depressed about the future because he knows that humans are replaced by machines so most jobs won't exist by the time he graduate. He is 18 but he cannot move out because rent is higher than ever. Forget travelling or going to the clubs to meet girls. Covid prevented all that.
He is part of a generation that I do not envy.
Take yourself to a softplay place. 10 minutes is all you'll need. Job done!
I honestly feel like if I bring a child into the world in the next two years, I'm setting them up to fail.
I also had an amazing childhood and would not be able to provide the same experiences for any kids I had and that makes me so sad.
Go to Tesco anytime between now and Christmas!
Jesus ours was like hell on earth when I popped in last night!!!
Yes, this is why I was up at 6am today hitting Tesco and Aldi.
Same. This is going to sound awful but whatever. I have muted so many friends over the last few weeks who have either had babies, or they're pregnant and already posting loads of stuff about babies. Sometimes I think I must actually be missing some kind of gene or something because I don't find babies cute at all, and anything about pregnancies/babies/children is literally so boring to me. I just hate how having a child seems to become a personality for some people.Tbh one of the many things that puts me off having kids is the idea of socialising with other parents
Many years ago, I went to a restaurant for a friend's birthday. This was at a time when I worked with children - so the 'friend' sat me between two pregnant women where all they wanted to do was chat pregnancy, pushchairs (sorry, travel systems) doulas and child development. I made a beeline for an empty chair between the starters and mains pretending that the person next to it was someone I hadn't seen in ages (reader: I'd never met them).
I feel this way too. My youngest sister who's 6 years younger than me can't get a mortgage because she's stuck paying £800 rent on house which most likely has a £350 mortgage on it. For a lot of people I think the only way they will ever buy a home is through inheritance if their parents aren't wealthy enough to give them a leg up already. I saved for three years for the deposit on my house but was fortunate enough to still be living with my Mam (still paying her rent!). I don't have any cars on finance or go on big holidays because that's not my thing. It is a huge worry for me how my nieces and nephews will be able to afford to buy themselves cars outright and get a mortgage which is why I'm saving for them now. I'm in the trade so fortunately I won't ever be replaced by a robot but I see our office staff constantly being cut back because they are no longer needed. The jobs market will be much more competitive when they are old enough.
My Mam did make me laugh a while ago when she asked if I ever felt like I'd gone without when I was younger because she raised four of us on her own for years with a part time job. I don't feel that way at all but I think it's definitely made me more of the 'strong independent woman'
I am now. It definitely drove me to get out there and look after myself. My Mam is a great parent but she definitely didn't pass that trait on to me!
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