Caroline Hirons #4

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Thank you for going above and beyond!

I must be a mean old trout because my thoughts were

- what kind of a person forgoes seeing their elderly mother after major surgery for the sake of seeing a tiny baby who can't speak and probably isn't aware enough to miss her temporarily
- this raffle is encouraging gambling among her freaks some of whom have demonstrated that they don't make wise decisions when whipped up by her
- there's so much random stuff in the main prizes, too much for one person (yes perhaps people would share with friends) way to trash your skin by "product hopping" as Dr Sam calls it.
I agree too. £10 for one raffle ticket is a lot, so to encourage multiple purchases, which to be in with any chance of winning you’ll have to do, seems wrong. Despite it being for charity.

Plus, whilst it’s good she’s raising more funds for the charity, how shameful that she has this amount product lying around in her office. So, if this raffle idea hadn’t presented itself, what would have happened to all this stuff?

Oh, and she wants £300 for an autumn kit as well!
 
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I thought the same thing!
The mom has had one test and needs another one before she is clear. If she visits and she does have covid, her actual household will have to all isolate. Her son lives a few doors down. So she could skip seeing the baby and risk it. But she could give it to her household.

Though truthfully, I would've drove down to my mothers and ride out the quarantine period with her. I would've stayed with her until she was cleared. It was serious, big surgery apparently. I have had lots of surgery...the first couple of weeks are always the legit worst. You are exhausted and any tiny help is appreciated and needed. Like I sobbed with gratefulness because my housemate got me a can of coke. I would've even stayed a little while after she was cleared. I just know, that depending on the surgery...if her mom lives alone, she is suffering right now. I only drank enough for 2 toilet trips a day because getting to the toilet by myself was exhausting and leave me curled into a ball for an hour. I paid my housemate to do my share of the cleaning because I legit couldn't do it. Even if someone just did a little tidy up, oh my gosh, it is a godsend. Just doing the washing up helps. Cooking meals is impossible when you're on crutches and you have to hop everywhere. She doesn't need to be in the office, it might make the job harder but she's been out of the office for ages so it's doable if not a little awkward.

So I just know her mom is struggling right now. Surgery is rough.

Yes, the baby is lovely, but her mom needs her a lot more. It's not going to damage an grandmother type relationship if you are not there for the first two months.
 
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I thought they lived a few doors down, but she was considering them one household because COVID rules don’t apply when you’re the Hirons
Ah! I stand corrected. Okay in that case, it's madness that she's putting her grandchild before her infirm elderly mother.

The mom has had one test and needs another one before she is clear. If she visits and she does have covid, her actual household will have to all isolate. Her son lives a few doors down. So she could skip seeing the baby and risk it. But she could give it to her household.

Though truthfully, I would've drove down to my mothers and ride out the quarantine period with her. I would've stayed with her until she was cleared. It was serious, big surgery apparently. I have had lots of surgery...the first couple of weeks are always the legit worst. You are exhausted and any tiny help is appreciated and needed. Like I sobbed with gratefulness because my housemate got me a can of coke. I would've even stayed a little while after she was cleared. I just know, that depending on the surgery...if her mom lives alone, she is suffering right now. I only drank enough for 2 toilet trips a day because getting to the toilet by myself was exhausting and leave me curled into a ball for an hour. I paid my housemate to do my share of the cleaning because I legit couldn't do it. Even if someone just did a little tidy up, oh my gosh, it is a godsend. Just doing the washing up helps. Cooking meals is impossible when you're on crutches and you have to hop everywhere. She doesn't need to be in the office, it might make the job harder but she's been out of the office for ages so it's doable if not a little awkward.

So I just know her mom is struggling right now. Surgery is rough.

Yes, the baby is lovely, but her mom needs her a lot more. It's not going to damage an grandmother type relationship if you are not there for the first two months.
Sounds like a tough time for you. Hope you're doing better xx
 
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I agree! I might be wrong but I think her son, his partner and their new baby all live with Caroline
I think the son with the baby lives down the road.
The mom has had one test and needs another one before she is clear. If she visits and she does have covid, her actual household will have to all isolate. Her son lives a few doors down. So she could skip seeing the baby and risk it. But she could give it to her household.

Though truthfully, I would've drove down to my mothers and ride out the quarantine period with her. I would've stayed with her until she was cleared. It was serious, big surgery apparently. I have had lots of surgery...the first couple of weeks are always the legit worst. You are exhausted and any tiny help is appreciated and needed. Like I sobbed with gratefulness because my housemate got me a can of coke. I would've even stayed a little while after she was cleared. I just know, that depending on the surgery...if her mom lives alone, she is suffering right now. I only drank enough for 2 toilet trips a day because getting to the toilet by myself was exhausting and leave me curled into a ball for an hour. I paid my housemate to do my share of the cleaning because I legit couldn't do it. Even if someone just did a little tidy up, oh my gosh, it is a godsend. Just doing the washing up helps. Cooking meals is impossible when you're on crutches and you have to hop everywhere. She doesn't need to be in the office, it might make the job harder but she's been out of the office for ages so it's doable if not a little awkward.

So I just know her mom is struggling right now. Surgery is rough.

Yes, the baby is lovely, but her mom needs her a lot more. It's not going to damage an grandmother type relationship if you are not there for the first two months.
She has a brother who lives much closer to her mum. Every family is different and I presume Caroline's youngest son is back in school so more at risk of catching Covid. If I thought I had been exposed I wouldn't be seeing vulnerable relatives.

I'm not really clear on what's happening with her mum I thought it was just tests which my mum would tell me not to bother coming home to see her for. My mum had a heart attack in January and I went home to see her the weekend after it happened, my sister didn't.
 
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I'm sure her husband has diabetes, so he'd be at risk if she visited her mother, caught covid and came home, grandchild or not.
 
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I’m very intrigued as to what her daughter does for a job
She seems to have designer clothes and I’m aware it says ‘PT’ but you would think if she was a PT she would have an Instagram
 
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She dropped out of her A levels year before last? And started at beauty school - Caroline got her an interview. Is she a beauty school drop out too?

I generally think discussing her family is off, and it’s wild talking about she should and shouldn’t do vis a vis her mother, but I am moderately intrigued by what the daughter does, yep.
And also, I was a complete loser at the age of 18. Left my 6th form courses twice without qualifications, went to live abroad, treated some people badly, did stupid things. I am now a fully functioning person with a degree etc but it took me a while to mature. I am sure I am not the only one to struggle with the transition to adulthood. So let's not call people an idiot or other such names when she is not doing anything very unusual for her age. (Being a bit daft and directionless)
 
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I wasn’t going to.

I think family is off limits for dissection actually so I may delete that post.
 
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I wasn’t going to.

I think family is off limits for dissection actually so I may delete that post.
No, I didn't mean you, Enid. I was agreeing, she shouldn't be discussed. But, in the past she has been called some pretty horrible names on this thread (she was called a tart for example on thread #2). And she seems pretty normal for her generation. And they seem like good, supportive parents.

@Enid Swamp
 
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Her daughters insta makes me criiiiinge... smoking doobs for breakfast 🤪
 
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I’m all for grandma love but anyone else think she is acting like it’s her own baby?
 
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Her daughters insta makes me criiiiinge... smoking doobs for breakfast 🤪
She is so cringe. Makes me laugh she thinks she’s some sort of fitness fanatic when all she does is arch her back in every photo to make her bum stick out 😂
 
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She is so cringe. Makes me laugh she thinks she’s some sort of fitness fanatic when all she does is arch her back in every photo to make her bum stick out 😂
And the pout, although she looks like she has a boxers nose like her mother’s!!
 
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