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I nearly bought it too because it was mentioned and mentioned and mentioned.

Now it's crickets....

I bet there are people out there who spent the 200 odd quid on one of her boxes who got it and then thought WTH have I wasted my money on but are embarrassed to say so publicly.
 
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And if people speak up it’s always

Well no one forced you to buy it
It’s not my fault if you are spending money you can’t really afford
I can’t guarantee it’s going to work for everyone
It’s a cream, not surgery - what did you expect?
There’s always someone who reacts to something
You know your skin best, not me

Etc, etc, etc. We’ve all heard it a million times. So shady.
 
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Again, what does that mean? A 'science degree'...it could be computer science, palaentology, botany....anything. Unless it's in dermatology, she has no more authority to speak than Hirons (or you or I). It's not about the level of the qualification or intellectual snobbery, but if your qualifications are not in that field, you are not qualified in that field. Either you have credentials, or you don't.

Making out skincare is complex, there is arcane specialist knowledge that is required or that these women know anything more than any of us is rubbish, and totally disrespectful of those who actually bothered to get proper qualifications.
Yes, you’re right. She talks about her ‘science background’ but let’s face it, she has been in beauty PR and journalism for 30ish years, so even if it was an undergrad human biology or chemistry degree it will be 30 years old. She mentioned her degree in a recent ‘beauty hags’ YouTube video, I’m sure. For some reason, I think it actually a *social* sciences degree which makes her claims about being having insider knowledge re science even more of a joke*


*that is not a dig at social science graduates, btw. Its just that it in no way qualifies her to understand skincare science.

As for Hiron’s, all her ‘qualifications’ seem to be short training courses run by brands on their own products and techniques. So basically product sales training. Not the same thing as professional qualifications from external bodies.

Found it! Nadine Baggott did a Psychology degree which ended up with an bit of sociology and a politics. About 19mins in.



Makes stuff like this La Roche Posay marketing blurb look embarrassing, doesn’t it?

sorry, I know this is OT for CH stuff.
 

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Oh, what? Social science isn’t science! She can’t say she has a science degree, good grief.
 
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I think it's questionable that she's on This Morning promoting products / brands that she has or has had a commercial relationship with but doesn't have to provide any disclosure to inform viewers. The lines are getting very blurred between her being a commercially minded blogger / instagrammer / author and "expert". How can the tv appearances be free from bias when so much of what she says, shows and promotes is dictated by her relationship (££) with the brand. See also Sali Hughes - journalist or marketer?
 
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Nadine Baggott did a Psychology degree which ended up with an bit of sociology and a politics
I just assumed she had a degree in chemistry. I really shouldn't be this gullible anymore :D
It's like someone saying: I have a degree in phonetics which is a science, so listen to my skincare advice based on... vowels?
 
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I think it's questionable that she's on This Morning promoting products / brands that she has or has had a commercial relationship with but doesn't have to provide any disclosure to inform viewers. The lines are getting very blurred between her being a commercially minded blogger / instagrammer / author and "expert". How can the tv appearances be free from bias when so much of what she says, shows and promotes is dictated by her relationship (££) with the brand. See also Sali Hughes - journalist or marketer?
Exactly this. They just aren't Independent in their recommendations. Almost everything they promote should be #AD.
 
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This doesn't mean I only take advice from chemist's or dermatologist's, on the contrary, but when you mention on numerous occasions that you have a science degree, or imply it, that does give you much more credibility than Hi, I'm XY, I like to try new skin care releases, which is completely fine, but then you know what you can expect.
 
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This doesn't mean I only take advice from chemist's or dermatologist's, on the contrary, but when you mention on numerous occasions that you have a science degree, or imply it, that does give you much more credibility than Hi, I'm XY, I like to try new skin care releases, which is completely fine, but then you know what you can expect.
She’s certainly misleading people with it.
 
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So it turns out the "Skincare Queen" gets quite a lot pumped into her skin :unsure::unsure:
 
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I like her honesty in admitting she has those expensive interventions to keep her skin looking juicy and plump .

Perhaps she should change her handle from ‘skincare activist’ to ‘Skincare Activist with additional help because I can’.
 
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I would like her honesty too if she wasn't so self righteous on everyone else's skincare choices
 
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Always thought she has cheek fillers and I was right, She has changed so much from her old vlogs with Ruth Crilley.
 
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