Caroline Flack

Sunraged · Feb 25, 2020

Spammingyourhighway said:
Do people usually take their own life out of nowhere or have there usually been numerous attempts/thoughts of suicide, leading up to it?

I think there's two questions there: 1)Do people who kill themselves do so without warning, and 2) Do people who kill themselves without warning have form for trying to kill themselves.

The answer according to recent research is yes to both. Only 1.6% of people who kill themselves had warned of their imminent suicide beforehand. The rest told no-one. 65% of perpetual self harmers eventually complete suicide.

Go figure.

OALCCC · Feb 25, 2020

Sunraged said:
I think there's two questions there: 1)Do people who kill themselves do so without warning, and 2) Do people who kill themselves without warning have form for trying to kill themselves.

The answer according to recent research is yes to both. Only 1.6% of people who kill themselves had warned of their imminent suicide beforehand. The rest told no-one. 65% of perpetual self harmers eventually complete suicide.

Go figure.

My cousin's friend killed himself. No one knew anything
My brother is suicidal and has made a few attempts. He talks about it often.
A girl I used to know. Her ex boyfriend threatened to kill himself and their children on a phone call to her while he had their children. By the time the police arrived it was too late

This is just what I know of. I imagine it comes in many more forms

Annealise · Feb 25, 2020

Staccy79 said:
Does anyone know if the voice over of the current Vodafone advert is Caroline? It sure sounds like her...

I thought that too - I’m pretty sure it is Caroline.

Noseyparker68 · Feb 25, 2020

I'm not some one who d watch love island but I think it's so sad that some one would take their life and be that frightened to go to court they decided to hang them selves what a huge shame. I remember a story Boy George said about a reporter from fleet Street who said . Don't worry we ll build you up but we ll probably destroy you in the end. Chilling thought . It's a shame for Caroline thought because today's news tomorrow fish and chip paper as the saying goes .

Cantstandspanj · Feb 25, 2020

Genuine question, I thought on the night of the alleged assault it was a lamp that was thrown, people are now saying it was a phone? Have I missed something?

Spammingyourhighway · Feb 25, 2020

Cantstandspanj said:
Genuine question, I thought on the night of the alleged assault it was a lamp that was thrown, people are now saying it was a phone? Have I missed something?

Caroline messaged piers Morgan saying all she did was throw a phone in rage

I was listening to Dawn O’ Porter’s podcast a few weeks ago. She interviewed mental health author Matt Haig. She said she’d never suffered from depression herself but reading his book ‘Reasons to stay alive’ helped her deal with a close female friend who suffers from bad depression.

i wonder if she meant Caroline

Dirty Joan · Feb 25, 2020

Cantstandspanj said:
Genuine question, I thought on the night of the alleged assault it was a lamp that was thrown, people are now saying it was a phone? Have I missed something?

Lewis told the officers when they arrived at the scene that she had hit him with a lamp. Caroline was saying in recent times that it was a phone.

BlahBlahSheep · Feb 25, 2020

Dirty Joan said:
Lewis told the officers when they arrived at the scene that she had hit him with a lamp. Caroline was saying in recent times that it was a phone.

I suppose if it’s true that we was asleep and was woken by something hitting his head, he wasn’t awake to know what it whether it was a lamp or a phone.

GrunkaLunka · Feb 25, 2020

It is quite common in cases where the victim wishes to withdraw their complaint, that the stories change. Whether it is through fear of consequences from the perpetrator, coercion, gaslighting the victim to make them doubt the truth, response to threats of suicide, or many other reasons, it can sometimes be instigated by the perpetrator.
It can also be down to the victim's own confusion, or fears of speaking out.
There can be so many reasons for stories to change and no matter how much we speculate, we can never know the truth.

Lairymary · Feb 25, 2020

Annealise said:
I thought that too - I’m pretty sure it is Caroline.

there are lots of tweets on Twitter that suggest it is. Many asking why it hasn’t been pulled. It seems to be on every ad break...

Tatvam · Feb 25, 2020

It's definitely not Caroline. Doesn't sound like her at all

Heyjude · Feb 25, 2020

Spammingyourhighway said:
Caroline messaged piers Morgan saying all she did was throw a phone in rage

I was listening to Dawn O’ Porter’s podcast a few weeks ago. She interviewed mental health author Matt Haig. She said she’d never suffered from depression herself but reading his book ‘Reasons to stay alive’ helped her deal with a close female friend who suffers from bad depression.

i wonder if she meant Caroline

I wonder if she was just being mindful of exactly what she was telling motormouth Piers. I think it’s fair to say a lamp was involved but whether it was accidentally knocked or purposefully thrown I don’t think we’ll ever know. Do we even need to know? If both of them were drunk or off their faces, I doubt they’ll remember exactly what happened and how. If LB was asleep in bed then it’s quite probable there was a night stand with a lamp on it next to him, if she was at the bedside kicking off, it maybe it simply just got pushed over and onto LB. Can you imagine waking from sleep and having someone ranting and raving around you, accusing you of all sorts, things being pushed over and smashed... you’d have no idea what was going on.

Annealise · Feb 25, 2020

Clemmieinwonderlust said:
Jameela is a bleep. Caroline was obviously upset and felt targeted by her but now shes gone Jameela is all we were best friends duck off!

That Jameela woman is so argumentive and contrary with everyone on Twitter. It’s her way or the highway. Piers Morgan was only trying to expose her awful manner in those texts of CF and now she’s turning the situation back on him.
I read she called herself ‘ Queer’ recently - if someone called her that, she would have caused carnage!

Spammingyourhighway said:
Amber beard gets away with chopping Johnny depp’s finger off, punching him, mentally abusing him, trying to ruin his life and take his money, and she still holds her head up high and hasn’t been cancelled. Caroline chucks a phone.

What happened in the end about that? Were they living in France at the time and she got off with it?

Spammingyourhighway · Feb 25, 2020

Jameela calling herself queer when she has expressed no interest/hasn’t dated any woman in her life.

i don’t know what happened to Amber Heard but she’s got a girlfriend now and was pictured looking happy without a care in the world

FOD's missing hairbands · Feb 25, 2020

Lairymary said:
there are lots of tweets on Twitter that suggest it is. Many asking why it hasn’t been pulled. It seems to be on every ad break...

Could it be Vic Hope? They sound similar, it's her on the holiday reps programme on ITV2

Tatvam · Feb 25, 2020

FOD's missing hairbands said:
Could it be Vic Hope? They sound similar, it's her on the holiday reps programme on ITV2

Yes I think that's who it is too

Staccy79 · Feb 25, 2020

Tatvam said:
Yes I think that's who it is too

I don’t think it’s Vick Hope, she has a slight accent and not as husky. I am sure it’s Caroline...

Staccy79 said:
I don’t think it’s Vick Hope, she has a slight accent and not as husky. I am sure it’s Caroline...

I read somewhere that Caroline done the voice over for the Vodafone ads on Spotify too

Persephonehasreturned · Feb 25, 2020

Suicidal ideation is common in people who suffer with depression and mood disorders. Far more so than people realise.

It is all well and good saying “treat mental health like you would a broken leg” but the reality is wildly different. Mental health issues come with unpleasant and damaging long term side effects for all, a broken leg doesn’t.

Saying treat MH issues like you would a physical issue like a broken leg is about as helpful and insightful as saying “I don’t see colour”, which was popular in the 90’s. Saying you don’t see colour is to ignore lived experiences and cultures. It is ignorant, well meaning but ignorant.

We are much better at listening to each other than we were but the reality is - a huge majority of people in prison have MH issues. Society can fall over itself saying “be kind” about a middle class celebrity who suffered and died because of MH issues but the average person? There is no such understanding and sympathy.

Spammingyourhighway · Feb 25, 2020

Persephonehasreturned said:
Suicidal ideation is common in people who suffer with depression and mood disorders. Far more so than people realise.

It is all well and good saying “treat mental health like you would a broken leg” but the reality is wildly different. Mental health issues come with unpleasant and damaging long term side effects for all, a broken leg doesn’t.

Saying treat MH issues like you would a physical issue like a broken leg is about as helpful and insightful as saying “I don’t see colour”, which was popular in the 90’s. Saying you don’t see colour is to ignore lived experiences and cultures. It is ignorant, well meaning but ignorant.

We are much better at listening to each other than we were but the reality is - a huge majority of people in prison have MH issues. Society can fall over itself saying “be kind” about a middle class celebrity who suffered and died because of MH issues but the average person? There is no such understanding and sympathy.

Exactly. very well made point.

Spammingyourhighway · Feb 25, 2020

^ I think it’s still relevant at the moment but some time in the future will fizzle out and close. I think it’s opened a lot of important discussion about mental health/other people’s experiences/society and how we treat people. So I don’t think it should close just yet. No one has been disrespectful.