I’ve spoken to people in the mental illness community this week that have found all the speculation and ‘Be Kind’ rhetoric quite suffocating. Quite rightly so as living with mental illness long term and managing it is a little different to just hoping everyone will ‘Be kind’ to you. It’s time consuming, restrictive and hard work, especially if you are functioning (i.e part of society, have a family, work etc.) Sadly when a high profile suicide happens, mental illness gets dramatised when in reality it’s as boring as any other illness. You take your meds, do your day, keep your fingers crossed and repeat. I don’t think that any article etc now is worth the time unless it comes from her family. I just read Piers Morgan’s and it’s just incessant drivel from a distant professional colleague.
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Many people who are AF are so because of the destructive nature of alcohol, the costs (financial and physical), the fact it's marketed as a panacea to life's problems (it's not), and because the supposed effects are those which are actually conditioned into us rather than a benefit of alcohol (for example the lovely feeling of relaxation you get from a glass of wine is actually your body responding to the idea of it because the alcohol actually takes much longer to take effect)...therefore it's not really helpful or warranted to say to someone you hope they can enjoy it again; if they're AF they're already enjoying life much more without it.So pleased to hear you are in a much better place , maybe one day when you are better you can at least enjoy a glass of wine or a couple of pints and it not dictate your life to you the body can heal itself over time . c and alcohol is an awful combination and extremely dangerous , unfortunately it doesn’t get to everyone as everyone is different and probably the reason why many who see friends supposedly unaffected decide that as a reason to carry on .
Cocaine and alcohol a 'deadly combination'
At least 13 self-inflicted deaths among people who took alcohol with c have occurred in a year.www.bbc.co.uk
Plenty of interesting books out there about breaking free from the pervasive consumption of alcohol. Being alcohol free isn't because people necessarily have problems or are swigging whiskey out a paper bag at 10am.
Sorry for derailing but I wanted to offer an alternative view.
Sorry for the confusion as everyone is different and only the person who is in recovery knows their own mind and physicality’s . My personal experience stemmed from 15 years of alcohol and c use that was so bad it made my whole body ache . When I abstained from both it took over 6 years before I had one beer , immediately it made my body ache. So I stopped , fast forward 3 years I had a couple and it was pain free . So nine years before I could go to a restaurant have a couple of drinks and a meal , for that I was very grateful and a choice that was no longer dictated by and something that is the norm for most people . I am well aware that some people can never drink again or can enjoy life again free from alcohol . My personal opinion was exactly from my personal experience.
Tribute to Caroline on tonight’s Love Island. 
The tribute was lovely, did get a bit teary. I’ve found Caroline’s death has affected me and my friends a lot more then I would have imagined. She could have been one of our friendsTribute to Caroline on tonight’s Love Island.
The ‘only throwing a phone’ thing struck a chord with me.... my ex and I used to have really viscous crazy arguments, which were turned up to 11 under the influence of coke and booze, I’m ashamed to say. On one occasion he smashed my phone into a million pieces and held me down by my neck. He grovelled his way into an apology, and I let him. I don’t know why I ignored my instincts. A few months later in a similar intoxicated situation we had a physical fight which obviously he dominated, being a male and naturally stronger. He hurt me much more that time, though my phone was unscathed (
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Deep down I had known all along the phone smashing was a violent act, symptomatic of a violent person, and that I would never do something like that to his property, never lose control that much. Sorry for the personal anecdote but yeah, in my experience there’s no such thing as “just” throwing a phone or anything like that.
(I had to pay to fix the phone because he was always broke, And to replace it when it eventually gave up 6 Months later)
). Deep down I had known all along the phone smashing was a violent act, symptomatic of a violent person, and that I would never do something like that to his property, never lose control that much. Sorry for the personal anecdote but yeah, in my experience there’s no such thing as “just” throwing a phone or anything like that.
(I had to pay to fix the phone because he was always broke, And to replace it when it eventually gave up 6 Months later)
Even Piers Morgan who said he’s been in the business a long time and isn’t easily shocked, said Caroline’s death sent him reeling
Neither Pasha or Rachel followed Caroline on instragram.
It’s not listed on her voice over resume (google) They often use soundalikes!Does anyone know if the voice over of the current Vodafone advert is Caroline? It sure sounds like her...
I've not seen the Vodaphone one but I thought it sounded like her on the ITV 2 advert for another programme - Ibiza Weekender or something. Could just be a similar sounding person though I suppose.Does anyone know if the voice over of the current Vodafone advert is Caroline? It sure sounds like her...
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I was surprised at that, I’ve been reading Jameelas thread with interest!
A little bit of unexcessary hypocritical tit stirring ... though hardly surprising from this man.
In an ideal world it could lead to Jameela Jamil saying “we all need to be better” and everyone online agreeing and trying to improve... in reality, even if she says something like that and doesn’t go on the defensive at all, she will be plied with hate... the cycle continues...
Piers Morgan was low to stir hatred towards Jameela and blame her for a hate pile on on Caroline. Caroline wouldn’t want another person to end up taking their life.
^ that breaks my heart with those people attacking Caroline 
I feel so protective over her now. Sometimes the seemingly strongest people need that extra support.
I feel so protective over her now. Sometimes the seemingly strongest people need that extra support.Tess ward use to go out with Harry styles
Ooo she has her own thread
I need to find it!
I’ve found that the past couple of days as more details have emerged about Caroline the sadder I’ve felt about it all.
the details of her death emerging which I had assumed anyway seemed so matter of fact and final.
the tributes from actual genuine people have been lovely. I am completely sick of the bandwagons though
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