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franno

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I think it’s ridiculous to speculate that Caroline was “on coke” whilst at home playing with her dog. Coke is a recreational drug that people use with friends to experience a momentary high. Yes, there is a chance she took that too far and was taking it as more than that, but I also think that it’s far more likely she was medicating via anti-depressants and drinking and that combination with poor mental health may have contributed to her death. It’s so naive to spread lies about her being “high on coke” and frankly makes you sound 15 years old 🙄
Well said luv x
 
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allybongo

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@Doc yes it’s making me feel quite uncomfortable. All the poor old ‘influencers’ posting about it.

The amount of people who are spinning this to their own agenda is making me stay off Twitter and insta.

cant they wait until the lass is cold before politicising it?
 
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newtoyou

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Does anyone else think it's absurd the idea of cancelling love island over this?
The deaths involving love island people were about cocaine, alcohol and debt. Nothing to do with a reality TV. What do people want to cancel all reality TV and just have documentaries?
Flack was all about gossip and trashy reality TV, she loved doing it. She wasn't some celeb with a talent to showcase and hounded by the media.

id you don't want to watch love island no one is forcing you to, but why do you want a TV show off the air that others like??
I think it was Twitter I saw this, but someone said that this didn’t happen to big brother contestants back when it was popular despite many of them coming out of the house and being hated. And the difference is that they didn’t come out to social media and hundreds of people being mean to them when they switch on their phone.

So yeh I agree, I don’t think the issue is love island as a concept, I think it would be the same issue if there was another hugely popular show centred around young people, who end up having careers on social media where they can’t escape the comments. If love island gets cancelled, another show will fill that role and and problem will happen again.
 
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Cekes

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The Sun (this came up on another link I was reading) reports that she was the one who was taken to hospital and that the police originally didn't want to charge her but the top brass wanted to make an example of her.
This source is likely connected to the PR team (or close to them), so take with a pinch of salt when it comes to assessing accuracy of what is said, or rather potential bias. It came out not long after they released the statement attacking the CPS/police process.
 
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Bostonx

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I read Steph was already on her "mission" and Caroline flacks death has gave her more determination. Not that it was specifically about Caroline to start with just that it gave her more reason to talk about something she was working on
 
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Juliethegossip

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the assault she was being done for was her self harming over him cheating and she got upset that he’d walked in on her doing that and threw a lamp at him. So many people have done nothing but give the poor girl shit since. She didn’t deserve any of it.

So so sad.
Well said 😔
 
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I have a friend, (an old school friend who I reconnected with), who vanished from Facebook sometime ago. To this day I still worry about the reasons why. He was a prolific poster and always great fun but just vanished. I have no means of contacting him but still worry he's ok.
I feel a bit bad reading this-I came off fb over a year ago but still have messenger and a couple of people messaged if I was ok. I know there may be some people out there a bit worried but also I would never do a ‘goodbye fb’ post so I look the same as your friend-that I’ve just disappeared 😕

That was so lovely of my friends to check and I told them I was, however really was feeling a bit down and was tired of seeing animal abuse posts or pictures of perfect houses/lives-I was rarely seeing ‘normal’ stuff anymore. Never felt better for coming off it!

I think cps obvious needed to go ahead, no one gets a free pass due to fame. But, I enjoyed watching Caroline on love island, especially aftersun and she seemed to have such a good laugh on it especially with people like Russell Kane. Who knows what went on but to hazard a guess the case coming up, knowing the absolute hammering in the press she’d get, drink and maybe drugs. Both shit for our bodies and brains (believe me I know the downers, now stopped) but hate to think of anyone, anywhere in such despair that their only peace will come from ending their life. Very sad
 
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Opalfruit8

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I wonder did she do it as a threat (like with self harming for his attention). And didn’t intend to kill herself.
 
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Suzesnooze

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I concur. Very relatable. I remember watching her on strictly and rooting for her to win. She could sometimes look so sad and fragile during those dance routines snd felt the music passionately
She was sad doing Strictly as she had just broken up with her boyfriend of two years who was apparently unfaithful to her with an actress from Glee.
 
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Luna22

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did you personally know Caroline? Is that how you know it was a one off?

also do you propose that the papers are not allowed to report arrests etc unless someone is found guilty at court across the board?
If you'd actually read what I’d said I said no one actually knows what happened, including me, everyone has there opinions & point of views & thats exactly why we are where we are now. No one knows apart from who was involved but still it was in the papers. Is that right? Ok? Fair? Actually legal? & yes I do believe that papers shouldn’t be able to report unless there actually found guilty in any matter BUT we trust our courts to do the right thing to the people who deserve it. For the record I actually wasn’t Caroline’s biggest fan not for any particular reason apart from I thought there were better presenters but I’ve never said a bad word about her. I just wouldn’t, unless they really deserve it (pedophiles/murderers etc)
 
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Look at her pupils - it's obvious. And I've never taken an illegal drug in my life but I know what cocaine does to your eyes.
I suspect it could possibly be to do with her mental health. I worked for years with people with mental health issues and people often look 'dead behind the eyes' their eyes have a certain look about them. They do say 'the eyes are the windows to our souls'.....
 
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BlahBlahSheep

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This is potentially going to end up as a back and forth, I don't want it to look like I want the last word and then to shut it down but....

I do know that the footage would have backed up the prosecution. The body camera footage captured the injury on the victim's head, it would be down to the defence to show that this injury was not caused by her.
The 999 call has the victim stating "she has cracked my head open. She tried to kill me mate."
The body camera footage also shows her being disruptive to the point she is restrained on the ground.

All of that is absolute gold dust for the prosecution, and backs up their case.
She breached her bail conditions to contact him, sending him a message via social media saying that she loved him. For anyone with any experience of domestic abuse, this is quite a common red flag. If I was already looking at someone for DA prosecution, something like that would further strengthen my evidence.

I also notice that when the victim stated he didn't want to seek prosecution, he stated "She did not hit me with a lamp", what did she hit you with then?
You’re right, this is a back and forth. Keep thinking what you want if it makes you happy. Personally, I don’t think there are enough facts and evidence in the public domain at the moment for any of us to draw any conclusions either way. That was what the trial was for and it’s not going to happen now. Maybe the inquest will answer some of those questions but right now I feel that anyone who thinks they know what happened for sure must be basing it on an element of speculation or deduction.
 
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Peanut-76

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The only people I feel sorry for are her family and friends left behind. Having lost a child of my own unexpectedly, I can categorically tell you that you never get over that. The pain you have to carry for the rest of your life.

Im not a fan of Caroline’s, or love island etc but celebs and people in the public eye are not above the law. Allegedly, she made a huge mistake and was violent towards her BF and lost her job as a consequence of her actions. Which, is exactly how it should’ve been handled, there’s no way ITV could’ve ignored her behaviour and allowed to continue in her job. Those blaming ITV for her suicide, need to give their heads a wobble, itv were also not obliged to support her in any way after her sacking and shit behaviour.
if you were sacked from your job, would you expect your employer to support you?! No!!

The only other point I will make here is to point out the massive hypocrisy on social media in light of her suicide, lots of celebs and people ‘shocked’ and ‘saddened’ and posting about how she will be missed. Where were all these people ‘supporting’ her during her troubled last few months?! It’s been well documented her mental health was suffering. So why were they not supporting her then!
She didn’t get the sack she chose to stand down from her position as she wasn’t sure how the trial was going to turn out
 
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Sausageface

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She released her biography already. Storm in a C cup. People will no doubt buy this but only to get the gossip on what happened that night, not because they are I terested or wanting to understand her.


I was wondering. A pop to the shops isn't usually enough time for an overdose so I wondered if she'd hung herself.

But then reports are saying the was pronounced dead at the scene after paramedics confirmed she was unresponsive so if she was alone for 5 hours, I'm guessing it was overdose.
Paramedics would still be required to confirm death in the event of a hanging. Or any death, no matter how obvious.
 
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WhatwouldPrinnyDo

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I read they were doing a welfare check...I wonder if the friend was at her's as they were concerned she may harm herself.
So sad. She really needed better care, and more help, possibly a longer term residential programme. If there’s anything to ‘blame’ it’s that the support for her wasn’t there (cuts? or no one forced it because of her fame? Or she had to prioritise attending court?) or she refused to involve herself in it.
Ant went away for a year, got the help needed (whatever it was) and came back better and I feel so sad this wasn’t a route she took too.
 
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According to my friend it was- she had actually tried to slash her own throat, that was how the whole thing came about. She read texts on his phone while he was asleep and began self harming with a kitchen knife. He woke and tried to stop her. The hitting him in the head with the lamp was as a result of him trying to get the knife off her and she picked up the first thing to hand to fend him off. Almost all of the blood at the scene was hers.
I am not disagreeing with you, but if she had indeed tried to slash her throat or neck, where are the scars from that in more recent photos, if that was the case? I realise she was hiding her neck at court and the airport with a scarf, but she has been photographed prior to this incident wearing a scarf the same way. I do however, believe she was very unwell and she possibly did self harm and if she was discovered in the act it could have caused her to panic and go into attack mode, not at all justifying ... just saying .... I just feel very sad that she felt so hopeless
 
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KLRDN

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Twitter seems to have ramped up the finger of blame to now include Police as well as CPS. I hope neither bow to public pressure and release any sort of statement.
 
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